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but this still doesn't solve the different translation of words, or the flow of sentences I think @CKtalon can answer this from the position of a translator but It will never work like you imagine it.

Doing translation in group might work for some but definitely not all. Two things to consider: Quality and Speed. It is very unlikely that the translators have the same level in translating, so in most cases, some chapters will be smooth, others will be funky. That will add more burden to the better translator or editor. Secondly, translators work at different speed too. What if one of the two translators doesn't pick up his slack? Publish alternate chapters?

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see, I dont know hows qidian works , thats why A stupid question, but everything in life has a tempo, off course if we are talking about translating we have to at least estimate the time to publish the work, I considered both, quality and speed, obviamente, I know you may use diferents adv, adj to form a sentece and you will translate diferent but you can not change the content you can only say I love my ear or my ear is loved by me.... about the speed... thats will depends only about benifits, I dont even know if you earn money for translation but if u earn things are a lil diferent, if u dont we can not say anything.... afterall you will replay, I just love translate sitdown and wait.

but as I said, finesh x ongoing.

sry bad/ poor english xD

chiiisd_FB Very few translators can do 100 chapters singlehandedly a month. Probably only a handful can do so. The average speed for most translators these days is about 30-50 chapters a month.

Assuming the 100 chapters/month rate, a 3000 chapter novel split among 10 translators at 100 chapters a month in theory can be finished in 3 months. However, it's unlikely there are even 10 translators that have that speed.

Next, you need an overall editor to ensure that everything is consistent. And if you have ever read a 3000 chapter novel carefully, it will take about 2-3 months of reading alone because there's just so much text. The editor has even more work since they will have to read and edit each chapter individually (and probably sequentially), so the editing speed for 3000 chapters will end up taking 6 months or so, because a fast editor will take two times, if not more, than the reading speed. Again, we have to have only one editor to ensure consistency in style, naming conventions. If not, you end up with the same problems with having multiple translators.

That is what some translator groups do out there, and indeed, their speed is relatively fast. About 100 chapters a month. Besides, if a translator is that fast, they will likely prefer to do a book of their own because it is a lot more rewarding (not monetarily) to be responsible for one book. Being a part of a group doing a single book gives little sense of ownership to the project.

Also, the philosophy behind web novels is not to binge it and read in one sitting. It's meant to be read in tidbit sizes when you have little to do. Perhaps if there are more incentives like, micro-donations, increased earnings, translators will increase their release speed with time. That was how it worked 15 years ago in China. Authors released like 1 chapter (maybe 2-4 chapters worth in present day) a month. But with monetary incentive to write, authors began going full-time, and writing at consistent paces. The translation scene is pretty similar to what it was back then, though the speed at which it has progressed is a lot faster than how the author scene developed.

Billdoor good point

hi translators, i think the original post also asked why you guys only focus on translating ongoing projects.
is it just because there are many novels out there, and the novels that happened to be picked up just so happen to be ongoing?

chiiisd_FB So many good novel, complete ones, waiting for translation and most I saw is ongoing, I feel like I am lost in the hq world...

i believe it's because ongoing novels tend to get promoted more often, so they're more eye catching than completed ones. maybe once more novels are being translated here, we get more people working on translating completed works

I started to read webnovel a few weeks ago, always liked books, but for novels I am a newbie, that why I couldnt find happyness in ongoings, I am not judging the style but I am a lil bit fast as a reader, so I really prefer start and finish in a day or two, that was why the motive from my question. Anyway thank you all for the replies foi bem elucidativo.

Miya Because there has been changes in trends both in China and the international audience. The tropes used from years ago are outdated and appear to be much more bland. As for recent authors, they have improved on that formula so they are a little more 'modern'. Those you read from years ago has the 'read one, you read it all' feeling. Some terms you see were memes of the time, but have lost popularity. For example, one of the terms is YY novels to describe these webnovels in general. That term is very seldom used these days. Depicting an outdated China is probably not in their best national interests (if any).

In addition, there is a thing about copyright. Qidian doesn't own the copyrights forever. (About 10 years). So if they translate an old book, the copyright to the old book might run out before the translations finish, etc. There is always the extension of copyright which the author sells it again which apparently most do, but there's too much risk in that.

Some novels that have been picked up by other independent translators might not be that popular in China, so there's little incentive to promote them either. Generally, books that aren't popular in China are not written as well because the author gets disheartened at the poor results. They might be ended abruptly among various reasons. Qidian has the data that says which books are popular, so it's a safer bet to choose the ones that were popular in China, as there is a higher chance of them being popular to the international audience. This is evident from the very popular webnovels that were previously translated.

Just some reasons I can think of.

CKtalon that makes sense. thank you for the clarification

checkm8 calm down bro, I think it's enough to just kindly point out someone else's mistake. I think cktalon is just trying to be helpful since i asked a question.
i don't know the relationship between you and qidian but people like you is why some translators are reluctant to post on here, if their flaws are being pointed out in such a rude manner. Also, the correct year isn't the point anyways, what matter is that we now understand why some of the older completed works aren't being translated.

checkm8 I never said the first sentence.

What I said was:
From my take of the situation, I doubt WW had a winning chance. I was part of the recording too, so I knew that too. It wasn't very convincing when WW appeared to be trying to drag it out in court so that the books could be finished. Besides, I think Qidian has the better and bigger libraries which WW will no longer have access to.

Besides Rwx mentioned that once a book is completed, the translation can be used by Qidian (Qidian's actions insinuate there's no need for completion according to the contract). So if all this is just to fight to the point of finishing a book to eventually hand it to Qidian, what's the point?

To make it clear, I don't see a point of resisting Qidian for the unlicensed novels just so that I can finish the novel which ends up becoming Qidian's property.

I'm not paid by Qidian to say anything publicly because I'm paid for my translations. I could be quiet and still be paid. What I am unhappy about is the unnecessary demonizing of Qidian and I try to explain certain rationalities behind actions taken from my point of view. I can also see the reason behind the actions from Wuxiaworld's point of view. I might not personally agree with them, just like how I do not agree with QI's actions of hiring lousy and slow translators.

There is no reason why I should know the exact details of the contracts (besides, authors at different levels have different contracts). The authors have not shown me the contract, which is going to be a long one, and written in Chinese legalese, which I wouldn't be interested in reading. Some of the relevant details are publicly known in China, considering how they have thousands of authors coming in and out of their system.

@CKtalon here is the actual Quote
Besides Rwx mentioned that once a book is completed, the translation can be used by Qidian (Qidian's actions insinuate there's no need for completion according to the contract). So if all this is just to fight to the point of finishing a book to eventually hand it to Qidian, what's the point?

checkm8 And it's the same as the one in Ck's post isn't it? ... I'm not sure what's you're trying to get at here. You're trying to say his opinion is false?

bro, this is like asking directors to take turns shooting a movie/television series, while the raws are the bought script which each director has their own understanding of