Even though loads of people mention this subject all the time I feel I need to add my thoughts in as well, the ss situation I think it's gone a bit over board now I don't know if anyone has actually done any math on it apart from me (was bored please don't judge)

As an example if a novel blocks from chapter 100 onwards and they have 1200 chapters or more in the novel and each chapter is 10 ss the cost to read all the chapters is absurd, ruffly £160 that's a low estimate.

My point I think chapters should be at most 3-4 ss otherwise the cost is too much for the average person

Rant over, sorry lol ,

    Kni8ht
    Nah you're not the only one. I've bought ss once, realised i've scammed myself, and never bought again since..

    In fact, i'm no longer even taking my free ss (not watching the ads at least). Realized i would need years to finish any of the novels, so not even trying anymore.

    So yes, i would be a paying customer but the price drove me where i am today..

    6 months later they will either fix it or just close down. That's what i think...

      Nassun

      There are so many people who do the same, they realise upon buying ss and reading novels just what they will have to pay to finish the novel or how long it would take with free ss they can gain from the app,, the really annoying thing is it could all be fixed if the people who run this app made every novel fixed at 3 to 4 ss per chapter ruffley paying £60 to £70 per novel which is the same as new game on Xbox and playstation. They could even do a thing where you pay £50 in one go and all following chapters in that novel are free, I think that would fix a lot of issues people have with this app.

        Kni8ht
        Imho even 70 per novel sounds rather expensive.. i can buy 2 printed books for that same money. And these guys don't have to print anything, just seems a bit odd that i would have to pay more for online read than i would for printed book.

        But yes, you're right, at least that would be worth considering..

          Nassun

          Completely agree, as a common guy earning minimum wage I would still find it hard to justify spending £70 on a novel even if it does bring me enjoyment, in the end I still have bills to pay and every day living expenses, but I just can't see the people who are behind this app dropping the price to £20/£30 per novel, which is why I came up with the number £60/£70 or 3 to 4 ss per chapter because it seemed the most likely price that the Novel might be willing to drop to. It would basically be half the cost of what the novels are at the moment and the app would still be making lots of money.

          But alas this app doesn't seem to listen to these issues that are actually very important, with novels now easily exceeding 10ss per chapter some 13 or even 14 ss per chapter it's really dis heartening to see such a great app fall so low.

          One point about the translation quality. Although I, as an English speaker since I was like 7, like to have good grammar in my books, I'm doubtful that most readers here have English as their first language (or learned it when they were young). English is the people's language in the sense that if you have a German and a Taiwanese guy in Italy that need to communicate, they're going to do it with some form of broken English, more often than not. I don't remember the exact statistics, but the amount of conversations in English that occur between 2 native speakers is staggering low, something like 1-2%. I guess the point that I'm trying to make is that although some readers are alienated by the bad grammar on certain books, the amount is probably much lower than you would think, considering there's a good chance that a lot of readers don't even pick up on the mistakes, or even care. I still think good grammar is important, but then again, there are countless books out there, and if people really dislike it, then the translator isn't going to get readers, hence no revenue, hence is going to stop. Clearly, this isn't happening, so the issue is not that big, although it is admittedly frustrating for those who grew up reading western novels in English.

          One thing I think is bad for the community is free SS. Admittedly, if you can't read anything for free, readers would be angry, but I don't think free SS is the solution. People can just make multiple accounts or read off of third-party sites and not need to pay. Of course, removing free SS would not remove people reading for free, but it would make it harder to read for free, or more exactly, it would make it less obvious, meaning people would be more inclined to buy SS. Clearly, we can't just remove free SS and not give anything in return, because then you'll just have more angry readers. I think a decent solution would be to make it so that every time something like 3 premium chapters get released, each user gets their first locked chapter released.

          Basically, if a book has 900 chapters, free readers get 1 chapter for each 3 premium chapters, so when the book is done being translated, 300 are free and 900 are locked. If a user buys 100 chapters, since the first locked chapter would be the first one released, then they would have 400/900. Doing it this way means a few things:
          1) Free users still get a chapter every ~2 days (more than the current premium system)
          2) More incentive to buy SS since getting free chapters becomes more tedious and annoying.
          3) More incentive for users to buy SS, since after reading 1/3 of the way through over such a long period of time, you're probably going to want to keep going.
          4) More incentive to buy SS due to the earliest locked chapter being unlocked. Back when premium started, it was a fixed chapter being unlocked for everyone regardless of if you've unlocked something or not before. Hence, if you bought SS then stopped, you lost your free chapters even though free users got theirs, which was really frustrating. With this system, if someone buys 50 chapters, then they're permanently ahead 50 chapters, regardless of if they keep paying, and are not locked into it to keep daily chapters.

          Anyway it might not exactly be the best suggestion, but I do think it would be better than what they have now.

            WinterBud haha winter thanks for commenting this is exactly what I was hoping for when I said that I hope people take things in their own perspective instead of just blindly believing in me and you brought up a point I absolutely didn't even think of when I was writing this and this is absolutely true thanks

            Sacredwisp make some really good points fellow daoist you're buying chapters and staying that number of chapters ahead I also really like that idea also kind of reminds me of what wuxiaworld does, I used to have a big problem when I bought chapters and then they became unlocked for free a few weeks later but nowadays the translators aren't unlocking any chapters for free later which really doesn't make me feel any better it just makes me feel like they're being cheaper and less loyal to their followers. And going into the free spirit Stone issue I think that they actually have a pretty good idea with the daily login bonus while some people might make multiple accounts to try to cheat this those kind of people are already using alternate sites that have ripped off their translations, a daily reward is a great business model to wrote people in constantly

            Kni8ht what's up knight when you bring that up that is a pretty good way of looking at it but let's see what the actual math is

            I'm going to say an average chapter is anywhere between 5 to 10 pages and will say an average book is anywhere between 300 and 400 pages so let's do 7 pages per chapter and a 350-page book and as we know it cost $0.99 to get 50 Spirit Stones US dollars so
            350pages÷7pages=50chapters×10ss=500ss
            500ss÷50ss=10sspurchase×0.99usd=9.9dolars
            so basically we're looking at around 10 ish dollars depending on how much the translator wants per chapter this amount can be considered fairly average with most books on nook and Kindle going for around 5 to $18 but at the same time these aren't true published and professionally edited books these are web novels and their quality is not as high as real published books that is not to say there aren't very very high quality webnovels it's just the average quality is lower

              Dao_of_books
              fan fic tags ? dont they already had ?
              lower stone price ? maybe not
              review translator ? whats the point
              better translator ? good idea but they are not cabbage
              free chapters on premium one ? done that and not anymore, promotion time is over folks

                Dao_of_books well, i gòogled average words per book and found it to be around 90k.. as i know qidian charges 1ss per 200 words, so it totals to 450ss, so yeah, you're right.

                Still doesn't help me believe it's worth it. The actual books goes through editing phase, unlike the novels here.. some authors even type the same thing over and over, increasing the word count.. i.e. see library of heavens path

                Imho it has to be cheaper than a real book, which right now isnt true..

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