I haven't been in webnovek for long just a couple years. However,this new update was bullshit. The amount of romance,lbgt stories these days on webnovel remind if watppad so much its scary. I know they want to reach a wider audience but why in this type of way. Its hard to find any good stories. What are thoughts ?
Is webnovel turning into wattpad ?
Ehhhhmmmm i never been wattpad but i saw Webnovel quality Getting worse. I reading and become same genre to romaance. I understand romance have more female reader. And Webnovel reader third of four is female. But seriously guys any genre other than romace........ Maybe female lead Mystery
sleep_yturtle I think the problem was people complaining about too many cultivation novels and then asking for romance. Now romance the main genre and everyone complaining about that. "And so the cycle continues." Lol
to much romance genre plz make it stop i want a second chanse genre/modern world
Guys, there are more novels on here than the 20 or so WebNovel is recommending at a given time. There are literally hundreds of decent or even very good fantasy, sci-fi, transmigration, etc. stories that can be found with a single search, even with WN's less than effective search tools. Most of these stories are also originals with consistent updates and no locked chapters.
How about instead of whining that WN isn't catering to you, you exert the slightest effort to find something yourself?
i'm complaining that now even gay novels are allowed. absolute sh*t
I see you're feeling grumpy again. First of all, being homophobic doesn't automatically imply someone's backward. It it did, it would also reduce being gay to just a fashion thing, the modern way to be or sthg like that. Which is emphatically untrue: for example in ancient Greece, homo love was considered a far superior kind of love to hetero love.
Secondly, a dislike of gay love novels doesn't mean someone's homophobic. One of my best friends is outrageously gay - makeup, clothes, the whole shebang. He's one of the wittiest and funniest people I've ever met. But I don't like gay love novels, male or female. Based on the ones I've read or tried to read so far, the emotional spectrum there just does nothing for me. I don't much like love stories as such, so maybe that plays a part.
Finally, going ad personam at someone just because their taste doesn't conform to yours is just not on.
So take it easy, or I'll just have to raid your sacred orchard to turn your attention to things that really matter - LOSING THEM APPLES!
Lol. I'm starting to think you have a crush on me, Michael. <3
Michael_Ryman First of all, being homophobic doesn't automatically imply someone's backward.
I agree. You can be technologically advanced and still be homophobic. But homophobia, much like racism and sexism, is socially regressive. There is no such thing as a socially progressive homophobe.
Michael_Ryman It it did, it would also reduce being gay to just a fashion thing, the modern way to be or sthg like that.
That's not even slightly accurate. =P
Michael_Ryman Secondly, a dislike of gay love novels doesn't mean someone's homophobic.
Absolutely. It wasn't an expressed disinterest in the genre I was reacting to. It was rather linguistic giveaways that indicate more than just a disinterest in the genre that I was responding to. They were saying it is "absolute shit" that "even gay novels are allowed". If it is not clear to it that there is more than "taste" involved in that choice of words, then I don't really know how to continue this conversation. lol
Michael_Ryman Finally, going ad personam at someone just because their taste doesn't conform to yours is just not on.
I wasn't attacking taste. You can like or dislike whatever you want, so long as it is something that is chosen, rather than innate. Expressing anger or disgust at the innate traits of another person isn't taste, it's being a douchebag.
And ad hominem is fun. Sue me. =P
Michael_Ryman I see you're feeling grumpy again
Nah, just perpetually surrounded by comments that indicate a disgust with my sexuality. And people who equivocate disgust of innate traits with a preference in narrative trends. =P
Michael_Ryman So take it easy, or I'll just have to raid your sacred orchard to turn your attention to things that really matter - LOSING THEM APPLES!
YOU STAY THE HELL AWAY FROM MY APPLES! ლ(ಠ益ಠ)ლ
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Michael_Ryman The guy was literally complaining that gay novels were allowed - in other words, he's pretty much saying they should not be allowed.
I don't think it's a matter of taste. I do agree with what you say, though. Homosexuality in Japan was pretty common during the Edo period, medieval and ancient periods, and was only...seen as taboo after "modernization" during the Meiji period.
But there's a difference between saying, "I don't like reading gay novels" (and I admit they aren't my thing either, but that doesn't mean I'm homophobic) and "gay novels should not be allowed!"
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PeacockStudios yup maybe just like u said. But for my personal i okay read novel FL lead but if romance it feel weird. Hope Webnovel make genre Female Lead without romance. Or maybe add some novel evil protagonist.
For LGBT novel. I not sure. But usually i going and give bad review in this genre. I know it will not give any impact coz now author can delete review but at least i make stand that u hate that genre. (ps. I will not spam bad review. I only spam 1 everday good review)
They probably have a bunch of data and are trying to guide people to whatever they're convinced will get people to break down and give them money for. I have no idea about the demographics here but I imagine that if there's a ton of women reading that they'll tailor their promotions to what women want to read. The fact that Webnovel has a relatively large amount of male-centric novels is quite interesting considering how Wattpad feels like a "NO BOYS ALLOWED" zone to me.
And on a related note Wattpad introduced an equivalent to Spirit Stones, called Wattcoins, though I have no idea if they function under the same pay-as-you-read model or if they want you to buy complete works all at once.
Pity you think so.
You're absolutely right. I was heavily UI last night, and mishandled my pidgin English filter. I guess I was just looking for an excuse to show off my drunken eloquence. That's usually punished the next day...
Clowniac Would it be so unreasonable to ask Webnovel to recommend a distribution of works similar to their actual product offerings? It may not be very profitable on the individual works themselves, but I would think that increasing reader retention would be more important which in the long run generally leads to more sales from brand loyalty (is that a thing anymore).
As a side note, I think the problem I've had with MxM novels is that they generally read like a fujoshi's wet dream. Has that changed? Are other LGBTQIA generally better?
Clowniac you say hundreds, but I'm yet to see more than 5 novels that we can call good ones. And when I say 5, I really mean it regardless of your/mine taste in literature.
While I agree with you that people need to search more and that the quality of WN is not falling, I'm also compelled to say that it was never great to begin with.
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Tbh, as long as the story is well written, it isn't really a problem for me to read LGBT themed novel.
Well, when it comes to modern contemporary romance, webnovel seems to stuck for the same type of CEOs novels where the MLs are cold, ruthlessness and too perfect while the FLs are the unlucky the deserted ones.
TheCabbageLu If "perfect" entails rape, domestic abuse, emotional violence and other sorts of awful behavior, then...I don't know what to say, man.
I'm a guy and even I'm disgusted by the way these "perfect" CEO treat the female protagonists.
Perhaps I should have said dozens, rather than hundreds. That said, there is a whole squad of talented writers lurking in the shadows on this site that are going woefully unnoticed by wider audiences, like Gd_Cruz, FattyBai, and JohnnyKCBA. If you wanna support writing that is better than the low-bar average on here, try throwing The Foolhardies, Alma, or Duality a follow. I think you will be pleasantly surprised.
As a writing site grows larger, it will naturally attract its share of new and unique writers.
As long as categories, tags, and genres exist to limit your searching, there is no problem with new writers joining in.
No one is forcing you to enjoy a story you have no interest in, so don't worry about it. Also, this site is still dominated with Fantasy. It just so happens a few of the top stories are more Romance themed, and have attracted a few others with similar minds.
I won't speak on the quality of these new stories, of course, but there is nothing inherently wrong with attracting writers from other sites. Use the search and categorize function, it's a miracle.
Honestly? Yes it is. But not because of romance or lgbt novels.
The reason it is looking more and more like wattapad is due to a lack of control over original writers.
On that there’s 3 main points I wish they were more rigorous about.
1- Bad grammar and plot. ~ not being a native english speaker is understandable but some novels are so badly written that it won’t cut as an excuse. Like, google translated? And written one chapter at time not even knowing where the plot is going off to.
2- MATURE CONTENT. Obviously we don’t want censorship here. But. There are some novels out there... boy... they do make me wish they were censored. XD
No, seriously, calling them a teenager virgin’s wet dream... is nowhere enough. It’s so bad is even hard to laugh. Like, 3rd rate p•rn is less worse than it. Sure it is also applicable to overdramatized romance that beat mexican telenovels. They are both clearly written by immature writers who put themselves on the MC shoes and use the novel to realize their romantic/se•ual fantasies.
3- The lack of compromise with their novels. I’m sick and tired of how many dropped novels there is. As soon they get a block or even get tired of the plot (or don’t know how to keep their teenage fantasy going) they just drop it and start a new one. They even have the gut to promote the new work on the dropped one! I legit gave up on originals cuz you never know when it will be suddenly dropped. Even if it’s popular. Even if it have good comments. There is nothing to assure us they will not just start another one and drop the current one.
In a nutshell. Webnovel still lack the equilibrium between giving authors freedom and demanding the quality and commitment we expect from novels published in this platform. And I hope they work this out...
Also, about lgbt novels. Surprisingly they usually have a better writing quality then BG novels. The only reason they are criticized is due to an (usually male) fear of reading about 2 guys liking each other or having s•x. That per se is bullsh•t. Apart of the same gander they are usually more romantic and tame (mature content wise) than romance and harém novels. There’s actually fewer cases of ra•e, intoxicated s•x, multiple lovers and all that crap there...
If people could loose the fear of “turning gay” or being judged by reading them they would find pretty good novels there. Be it action, drama and comedy they are usually balanced and well written (even more so compared with the teenage fantasy ones).
Kisses and good reading.