I hope admin search reviews of webnovel. It used to be a very good app for reading novels. But changes ruin it. I just felt kind of sad because stories are nice and there are good authors. Earning SS also took most of our precious time so it cannot be considered as free reading. We bear watching useless ads just to earn points. Hopefully, you return to old system.
Poor reviews of New System
Yup,I agree it it too troublesome..plus 1 pass only can be exchanged with 1000 point..I more prefer the old system than this one..
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diegosilang Earning SS also took most of our precious time so it cannot be considered as free reading.
Writing/translating stories for you guys to read also took most of our precious time, but you want to read them for free?
I'm not desperate for money, nor am I demanding that you pay for reading stories, but this sort of logic is just twisted. I bet the Amazon thief who plagiarized my story and sold it on Amazon also thought that "copy and pasting" took most of his precious time, so it cannot be considered as "free labor." Therefore he believed he deserved to earn money off the hours of labor I put in while not giving me anything in return.
Tomoyuki That has got to be stupidest most entitled statement I've ever heard in my life. 
I just skimmed the first post and then saw your quote of it.
It's because of ads that we get "free" television, movies, games, music, etc. It takes precious time?! Yeah, duh! That's the "price" you pay for "free" content that you didn't spend money or days of your life creating.
I can't believe this kind of self-centered, world is here to serve me kind of attitude exists to this extent. Haha!
diegosilang yes. Totally agreed. And the free pass cant ve use for privilage chapther. I'm also used to be premium member. But, i dont see any significant different with regular member. So, i just cancel the membership.
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Beautiful, just beautiful.
I guess your first sentence means you never listen to yourself. And the second - that you never look in the mirror.
Michael_Ryman I always listen to myself and stay true to myself. :)
I look in the mirror too. Right back at you too.
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Michael_Ryman By the way. Do you even know what I was referring to?
Edit: Because I'm pretty sure you misunderstood who I was directing my words towards. It wasn't at Tomoyuki, but talking with him. :thinking: You might want to read the context of my post more carefully.
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Do you even understand what the point of privilege chapter is? If you can use free pass for privilege chapter, then it's no longer "privilege." I might as well not bother writing extra chapters (which takes up a lot of my free time) if people are just going to read them for free. I already do a daily release which you can read for free, and you still want to demand to read my extra chapters for free?
I might as well just watch anime or game with my free time instead of writing extra chapters. It's not as if you don't get your daily chapter even if I do.
That's how Patreon works, by the way. If you donate more, you have the privilege of reading more. How the hell is it fair for my readers who actually pay me to read just as much as people who read my story completely for free? Even if I don't care about myself and my financial crisis, I care about being fair to my readers. If they pay for my story, they deserve to read more than those who do not pay at all. End of story. And it's not like you're not getting free chapters anyway. Just wait like the rest of the other non-paying readers and you'll be able to unlock them normally with free pass everyday. If you pay, I'll give you the privilege of reading extra chapters. If you don't, then wait like the rest - why should you get just as much as my readers who actually pay me? That's not fair to them at all.
Edited: Don't worry, Chyriss, I know you weren't referring to me. The explanation for privilege is directed at Alistaire.
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I have an advice for you.
Go find some nearest drug dealers in your area.
Get some of the ware from them for the promise of paying back.
Like their instagram, facebook or whatever they are using.
Send them a private message, that your work in promoting their person has equaled the value of the drugs they gave you and you are in the clean.
Enjoy the show.
I saw people complaining about the worth on WN compared to normal books. I saw people complaining about how they were entitled to free reading, but welp, they were at least true to their own stupidity. But you?
You are just the amalgamation of the worst traits brought to the humanity by the socialism, where people think they are owed something just for the fact that their socially worthless persona (in terms of authors income on the site) actually matters more than the words that I'm writing on this post...
Or wait, some people actually enjoy my writing, so that means you are worth even less.
PS: the part about the drugs is just for you to understand how stupid your claim is. I do not promote nor accept or validate the usage of drugs, it was just an ironic mean to get someone presenting level too low for me to use elaborative logic to understand the real implication behind his actions and words on a rather harsh example
diegosilang webnovel is trying to make money in every way possible which is ruining it. most of the people are either dropping thier novels or dropping the app alltogether because of that
KoraL As Tomoyuki said, I'm not particularly bothered that my fanfic is used for farming on occasion. For one, it's a music & band fanfic; two, readers (and writers are readers too) get rewards for points (even though there are no awesome vouchers anymore in the store); and three, I and writers get another spot for exposure for their novels in the farming section. Besides, I probably entered a cent at most since farming got implemented.
Otherwise, yeah, I'd be right up with you about WN earning more money off author's backs.
Tomoyuki I understand your viewpoint, I also understand Webnovel to ensure their benefit , however they are forgetting who they are targeting, most likely 90% of webnovel user base won't pay for chapter, for the rest of the 10% even this new system will put a strain in their wallet. Beside if the author is heavily investing there time on there work but where will the user base if we can't even afford a chapter. If someone plagiarise your work but profit thru ad but make the content for free , will the user stay loyal and waste their money but still supporting the author (someone will but if webnovel keep on raising the price they can't support the author p) or get free content.
Let say you can get a £1000 iPhone for £1 will you pay £1000 iPhone to support apple or buy that iPhone for £1
NPC1 I'm a free user, but I'm not going to complain about getting less free stuff than I used to have. It's not my privilege to get free stuff as a free user. While I don't agree with how WN operates, it's more on a lack of communication and customer management side because I agree with you, such drastic changes don't bode well for their customer loyalty.
With that said, any argument about some pirating or plagiarizing will always be an ethics argument. I have no respect for those that leave this site because they can read for free on pirate sites.
Although I get what you're trying to say with that iPhone analogy, that isn't the best example to use because it's a physical product that's more traceable and monitored than stories on a writing platform. Unless that iPhone is being sold for £1 on Ebay or something similar, I can see why yeah, someone might buy that instead. But that's given that the ebay seller is legit. Anything that's not legit, I'm pretty sure Apple would find and likely take legal measure towards unauthorized sellers.
WN has a lot they need to fix. But free users whining to get back free stuff is something I'd never support. If the paid users are significantly affected, that's another issue (like if a coin used to cost 1 cent but now it's 2 cents). But free stuff (that free users also get) should always be taken out of that equation even for paid users. However, I hardly see any paid users complaining. It's just free ones.
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I'm not taking about the usage of fan fics for money. That's another mired pit of sludge. I'm saying that from 1¢ of ad revenue, they provide 100 points to the reader which may be used toward a fast pass. Let's say that only half the points used to buy the cheaper fast pass are from ads. So the fast pass is worth 5¢ and was used to unlock a chapter. Suppose every week, 1000 fast passes from points are used to unlock your contracted novels, and the royalty is 20%. That's $500 per year that Webnovel has earned through a loophole.
Chryiss Do some fanfic writers get paid on here?
KoraL Er, I suppose? :thinking: I see what you're getting at, but I caution on using math when we don't know actual numbers. Fast passes are 1000 or 2000 points (idk why some ppl are buying the 2k ones instead of the 1k ones first lol), so people would have to see 500-1000 ads before they get a single fast past. Some readers do read that much, but apparently now you're limited to how many points you can receive in a day.
So the individual benefit and loss on reader and writer sides might be small, but I can understand how that can accumulate for WN's ads revenue in a year. But honestly, them earning $500 a year doesn't bother me. It's so little money really, especially if you try dividing that between all the writers.
And as you said, fanfic is a whole other swamp. While I don't think profiting off another's intellectual/creative property is right, I imagine some fanfic authors (not me) might feel disgruntled should original writers get ad revenue, but they don't. This whole ad revenue is on the fine line of making money off of using another's property, or as "support" toward the writer individually. (As some fanfic writers receive contracts that allow gift options on their books, but not locked chapters, using this reasoning.)
This platform hosts stories for free (something that gets easily forgotten and ignored, taken for granted), and those farming novels get free exposure for their novels. I think a few cents per writer is a fair price to return these two core benefits. Webnovel probably spends more than the average website to host the amount of data on this site and maintain it too. I don't see $500 as a loophole, but another method that gives "free" content to readers and exposure to writers while also benefitting WN. On an individual basis, this seems fair enough to me. The incremental profit WN might gain, imo, is too insubstantial for a writer to fight and waste time for. That's all.
This became longer than I meant it to be. In short, I just don't think it's worth it for a few pennies a month. And it's not like WN is the only one that benefits with this points and farming structure. If it did significantly contribute to writer's profits, then of course, I'd 100% be right there with you.