My apologies because you might not like what I am going to say. Feel free to leave constructive criticism. That's your right but do not post them again and again if he deletes it because the way commenting is your right, deleting comes under his. Sure, I truly appreciate that you think those comments can help him improve and they actually might but everyone learns at his/her own pace. Forcing it on someone is awful. We do not and can not know why people do the things they do. People can delete comments for their own peace of mind. Everyone can't deal with negative stuff and they shouldn't be forced to. As readers, it's understandable that you want to say something, good or bad, but putting the writer down by constantly spamming the story with your opinion is not really necessary and a good thing in my opinion. Not pointing at you here particularly, just saying in general because I keep seeing threads where folks are absolutely bummed upon having their reviews/comments deleted.

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    You have to be careful with writing criticisms in reviews. Yes, feedback is important for an author, but reviews are meant to help readers select works to read. When you pick apart someone's book in the reviews you are only serving to limit his/her audience. When I write a review I try my best to point out what I liked and didn't like without giving spoilers. I want to help the writer by directing people to his/her work who will enjoy it and discourage readers who will not be happy with the book. There is an audience for everyone. If you feel the writer needs your help, then it is best to send him/her a direct message or email to give the feedback out of the public eye.

      If you really want to leave a lasting suggestion put it in the chapter comments. Authors can't delete those.

        LostInFictions Honestly if deleting such a thing is under their right than reposting it is under the readers right to do so. You can't say the reader has no right to repost the review and that the writer has every right to delete it.

        Honestly the way webnovel made the system means someone has every right to repost it if the author has every right to delete as it can be reposted.

        I'm not exactly arguing the other parts, but you can't have it both ways.

            Damn I messed up do to doing this on the app, I didn't remember your whole comment and due to not being able to reference stuff on the app I didn't see you didn't say he doesn't have the right.

            Ultimately though if the author feels they have good reason to delete it, regardless of the reason, and the reader feels they have good reason to repost it, than both sides should be able to or neither side should.

            Sythcake I mean your reasoning is messed up, but there is a point to be had there. A review won't keep being reposted if you don't delete it in the first place. If you spam it everywhere like the comments it is one thing, but if you spam it by reposting the deleted review, well the person who deleted it only has themselves to blame by propagating the cycle.

            So it isn't necessarily a bad thing to spam(within reason of course) as it is a show of unwillingness to be unjustly silenced. If done within reason it isn't even harassment as the cycle can end by just not deleting the review, while it can also be ended by not reposting the review, so it is a case both sides are being stubborn and both sides are at fault(given though that the side being silenced is the justified side). I'm not saying to troll and get an author to quit, but spamming is definitely a good thing in certain cases as a sign of protest.

            Though troll reviews are not included.

                FunnyBuns I'm not exactly arguing the other parts, but you can't have it both ways.

                Actually, under the law it is two different things. It is called harassment. If someone hangs up on you, but you insist on calling her over and over and over again, she can report you for harassment or stalking. Reposting over and over again is tantamount to harassment/stalker behavior.

                Also, LostInFictions was referring to another reader who literally went and copy/pasted his reposted "review" in the comment section of all 100+ chapters of a story whose writer deleted his review because he complained about the writer promoting "toxic/abusive" behavior. That was what she meant by spamming, and the other threads she saw here where readers were "bummed out" and resorted to such extreme measures. No matter how frustrated you are, spamming your review in the comment sections over a hundred times is basically harassment.

                    FunnyBuns Honestly if deleting such a thing is under their right than reposting it is under the readers right to do so. You can't say the reader has no right to repost the review and that the writer has every right to delete it.

                    Honestly the way webnovel made the system means someone has every right to repost it if the author has every right to delete as it can be reposted.

                    I'm not exactly arguing the other parts, but you can't have it both ways.

                    When did I say that reposting does not come under readers' rights? Please read my response one more time and quote me where I said that because I can't honestly find where I said that.

                    Sure, you can spam someone with the "reviews that you think are constructive". I mean I can't even say anything there because I see the same mentality there that people use for bullying and harassing people under the name of "freedom of speech".

                    No, I don't think you understood what I said. My point is - you read a story, you didn't like it, you wrote a review with the intention of being helpful for the writer to improve (I hope). You did your job right. Now it's on the writer if he/she is willing to learn from the criticism or not. You can't force "your suggestions" on him multiple times until the toxicity consumes him. I mean you can but what's the point?

                    Do you consider that the writer you are continuously spamming can be in depression? Can be dealing with something really bad at that moment? And when he saw your review, he felt more down so "for his peace of mind" he chose to delete it? Can happen, right? In this virtual world, we don't know what the person behind the screen is dealing with.

                    Why should we pull people down if we can't lift them up?

                    Write reviews. Even bad ones. Ugly ones. But then...stop there. Don't force the writer to look at them every day if he doesn't want to. That's all I said. That's all I meant.

                        There's 3 types of writers
                        1. Those who get thousand comments and review a day and will likely not notice the one with constructive criticism. Reader will complain then about author not interacting with them

                        1. Those who are overly sensitive/due to childhood trauma and low self-esteem associate criticism with attack and aggresion. Will delete the review. Reader will complain about authors deleting rewievs and not wanting to improve.

                        2. Unnoticed flops that check their chapters 4 times before posting it and would die for a honest feedback from the reader. Readers won't complain.
                          They instead will be too busy messing with author 1 and 2 and ignore author 3 like everybody does.

                        Some of you gonna be really mad at me but it has to be said

                          LostInFictions Sigh, I am not going to argue one of those points as I have no clue how someone can be delusional enough to think one human has the right to silence another for any reason.

                          Secondly I already corrected the point and said the app was at fault for me not being able to reference your comment.

                          Third I already proved both sides are at fault, I mean even if a person is depressed or has some other mental health issues that is no reason to delete a valid review, rather an excuse. If you are depressed or some other reason don't read it, if you read it and it affects your mental state, well that is your own fault. Just like how a mentally ill person who stops taking their meds and commits a crime is at fault, so is the author for reading it(hell if you can't handle it you should not being doing something like this in the first place).

                              Constructive Criticism is good for writers. It lets them know which part of their writing needs improvement. No one is perfect. Even Stephen King or JK Rowling needs someone to critique their drafts.

                              What's bad is how "some" critics execute and give it. Emphasis on "some" because not everyone is like that. My point is, there's a difference between being a good critic and being a rude commenter just for the sake of being rude.

                              You can give a critique without sounding a total douche by doing the sandwich method. Start with what you like about the story, followed by things you don't like and need improvement, and lastly, encourage them to keep doing what they like while staying open to suggestions, because at the end of the day, everyone has their own preference and taste. They can either follow it or not. :)

                                FunnyBuns I would rather refrain myself from replying because our viewpoints are poles apart to come to anything mutual. I said what I feel is right and I still stand by it.

                                    FunnyBuns or has some other mental health issues that is no reason to delete a valid review, rather an excuse

                                    Who decides what review is valid though?

                                        FunnyBuns If you are depressed or some other reason don't read it, if you read it and it affects your mental state, well that is your own fault. Just like how a mentally ill person who stops taking their meds and commits a crime is at fault, so is the author for reading

                                        Wow. I am not even amused. No wonder why this world is of the kind what it is.

                                          Mamelunka Unnoticed flops that check their chapters 4 times before posting it and would die for a honest feedback from the reader. Readers won't complain.
                                          They instead will be too busy messing with author 1 and 2 and ignore author 3 like everybody does.

                                          Sigh. Truth has been spoken.

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