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Leylin_Farlier Hmm, choosing the more cruel option doesn't always make one evil tho. For example, the protagonist of Everybody Loves Large Chests is way more cruel than Leylin, but i would say 'it' is more in the lines of chaotic allignment. It may destroy towns, cause the death of thousands or eat whole villages, tho that still doesn't really make it evil...

On the topic of Leylin, he wouldn't snatch an icecream if he can afford to buy it even if it meant equal or better outcome. He doesn't really do petty stuff. Petty stuff i'm talking about means that if Leylin can afford something, he doesn't go out of his way to snatch it even if it is something valuable to others. Also, what is 'truly innocent'? Just holding onto something might make you guilty, just like how you would be guilty if you were to hold onto, transport or sell jade as a commoner in ancient china. All jade belongs to the emperor, commoners aren't allowed, your head would fly for that offense! Innocence is just a matter of perspective. If i say you are innocent, then you are innocent, but if i say you are guilty because of holding that icecream, then you are guilty. So doesn't that mean Leylin is completely just in his actions?

N0xiety I’m talking srs evil.. So basically, an irredeemable asshole that has no sob story background to justify his cruelness, no bullshit moral boundaries along the lines of I’m cruel and all but won’t hurt woman and children, no doing bad things for the greater good, no dog eat dog world where the mc is forced to be cruel by the circumstances or in short, no to the usual cliches and tropes of your every other antihero protagonist

A great example of what I’m lookin for https://villainousintent.wordpress.com/2013/01/27/and-introducing/ or at least the first half of the story, later the author decided to ruin his story with certain cliches

Sythcake So what you want is basically a monster right? Seriously, go read 'Everybody Loves Large Chests' right now. This is exactly what you are looking for. Mc is a monster, a literal one. It is not some reincarnated pansy human in the skin of monster, it is a literal monster in and out. No one can be a monster better than a monster right? It does whatever it damn pleases. It wants to eat a village? Then it eats a village. Nothing can be more cruel than an actual monster. Even those so called evil mc's have points that they won't cross, but that doesn't work for a monster that isn't constrained by human morals or rules. Tho this doesn't mean it's stupid, as the story evolves and the monster gains more intelligence, it gets smarter and smarter. It doesn't do thing which may attract too much attention to itself, tho sometimes it's hard to not just eat that one annoying juicy human who talks too much haha! It's life goal is tasty things and it will do anything to obtain them. Tasty here means good for the monster. Humans are tasty, dwarfs are not as tasty, shiny things are TASTY, but getting stabbed is so not tasty!!!

Miegoreng There is no perspective about being a murderhobo without a moral compass.

N0xiety I read it and was disappointed with all the interludes, the chest barely gets any screen time. It’s a common problem with novels that write about a truly evil protagonist, they start out by introducing the villain mc but next thing we know, he barely makes an appearance once every few chapters and we are forced to read a life story of some random sobs.

Sythcake Well, i call that good world building, but everyone has their own tastes. You can also read 'Dungeon Defense', another great novel, but that one also has the same kind of world building, so i guess you won't like it either. It's not easy to find a novel that solely focuses on the mc and don't give attention to other characters.

Sythcake Yeah, those can be annoying, tho as i remember, it wasn't that bad in ELLC. Or maybe i'm too used to it from reading all those japanese novels...

Yep2. Evil MC is bad. Everyone want a good Protagonist.

My novel got complain because it features Arrogant Young Master as MC even when he wasn't that bad compared to true Arrogant Young Master who grab and rape girls on the street.

SnoozySloth So Zhang Xuan from LOHP?