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- Apr 9, 2022
- Joined Jun 30, 2019
Tomoyuki And what is your logic? That authors only have to consider their feelings and their efforts while totally disregarding readers? I’ve been following the thread here and I’m yet to see an author who’s spoken for readers. All of you have consistently used the word ‘readers’ in general. I’m a reader, I don’t make unnecessary demands of authors (and there are many like me) but somehow I’m lumped into that. But it’s okay.
Back to point - demand for more updates, big deal! So readers want more chapters it’s either you can or you can’t. I’ve seen many cases where authors explained why they couldn’t release more than 2 chapters daily or weekly and it was well received by readers. Most readers don’t mean to put pressure on authors by asking for more chapters - it’s just a reflex reaction to good book.
While it doesn’t take a lot of effort for readers read, it does take effort for them to buy spirit stones since they cost money. Now, I’ve seen several cases where authors commented that readers only use free ss to read; while that may be the case for some readers, it’s not the case for all. So I don’t appreciate authors looking down on readers as if you’re doing us a favor by writing your books.
I’ve said it before, if you publish a novel on this platform it means you want people to read it; if it’s an interesting one, they’ll want more (sucks but that’s the reality) so if you can’t handle the pressure, don’t publish!
Reading on a platform like WN isn’t like reading on Kindle in that it’s designed to make you addicted to reading - this is what fuels the demand for more chapters.
And yes, readers need authors too which is why we support you guys by reading and voting for your novels. The highest appreciation I can give you as an author is to READ your book. So frankly, I don’t need this tirade of complaints for wanting to do that.
I hope you can be more objective about this.
DarkRay You guys (authors) can over rationalize and overthink all you want. Bottom line, without readers, who needs authors? You’re as good an author as the number of readers who demand for your book. But I guess that doesn’t apply to the authors on Webnovel since you’re not professional authors and, probably, don’t aspire to be so. Otherwise, you wouldn’t start a whole thread whining about and dissing the very people you want to appreciate work for appreciating your work!
Esther_kim Know this, when a reader posts ‘more chapters please’ he/she probably moves on to other activities and you and your novel are forgotten until the next time they see a blue dot next to it. Asking for more chapters is their way of saying ‘l love your book.’ So don’t fret when you see such comments and do what you can and want to do. I have many books in my library which update regularly but I don’t bother reading cause they’re not worth my time or ss.
It’s really disappointing to hear ‘authors’ referring to readers as ‘insensitive’ simply because they request more chapters of a book they’re writing. Would you prefer us to not make any comments on your book?
Look, you guys (authors) can stop overthinking things okay. I mean, it’s not like readers are pacing and hyperventilating because you’re not updating your books; it’s more likely that we’ve moved on to other books and by the time you finally update we’d have to go back a few chapters to remind ourselves what the heck your books are about; or we’ve dropped the books.
Oh yeah, you guys don’t like the ‘dropping the book’ part either. Sorry but, if I need to reduce the number of books in my library I’m naturally going to drop the ones that haven’t updated for at least 6 months.
Bottom line, chill, relax and go on HIATUS for as long as you like - it’s your prerogative, just as it’s the readers’ prerogative to either wait for you or drop your books.
Nizze 3- The lack of compromise with their novels. I’m sick and tired of how many dropped novels there is. As soon they get a block or even get tired of the plot (or don’t know how to keep their teenage fantasy going) they just drop it and start a new one. They even have the gut to promote the new work on the dropped one! I legit gave up on originals cuz you never know when it will be suddenly dropped. Even if it’s popular. Even if it have good comments. There is nothing to assure us they will not just start another one and drop the current one.
Spoken straight from my mind. I am of the opinion that, save for their many, many chapters full of fillers and cliches and their soap opera-ishness, translations are easier reads than originals.
Clowniac You’re absolutely right, authors don’t owe readers anything regardless of whether they’re reading for free or not. Likewise, readers don’t owe authors anything: they don’t have to like your books, they don’t have to vote for them, they don’t have to review or comment on them, they don’t have to save them in their libraries or even freaking read them.
Honestly, if basic, and I mean basic, standards of writing were to be adhered to; most novels on WN would fail the test and that’s being modest. In fact, when it comes to grammatical accuracy, the translations fare better than the originals (feel free to disagree). Most readers shut down their brains and read with their hearts in order to appreciate the efforts of the authors. Like someone rightly said, readers choose the plot over grammatical accuracy. That said, even the plot is so messed up sometimes that readers have to, mentally, edit it as well as the grammatical errors ( which is freaking frustrating) for the order of events to make sense.
Tip to readers:
When choosing a book to read, 1) check how far gone it is - if it’s less than a hundred chapters, then it may take a while for the story to pick up (especially so with translations which are usually a 1000+ chapters) in which case you may want to hold on; 2) check the frequency of updates by checking the last date it was updated and the intervals between each update; 3) check the creator’s comments to see if the author is one who communicates breaks in updating regularly then you may choose to read at your own risk; 4) NEVER fall the ‘comments and suggestions are welcome’ ploy cause most authors say that but end up whining and ranting when you actually comment and suggest honestly (except, of course, if you’re painting black white).Tips for authors (if I may, o magnificent ones):
1) don’t be in a hurry to publish your book if you’ve not completed up to 75% of the raw/draft/first edited text, cause once you publish, readers will keep demanding for updates to feed their suspense (I dare say that it’s only on WN that this is considered a bad thing).2) Don’t open the floodgate of suggestions if you can’t handle honest views and opinions.
3) Minimise subplots involving supporting characters as these leave too many loose ends to resolve, especially when there’s no clear connection to the main plot. (I suspect this to the main cause of ‘writer’s block’ here).
4) Be sincere in your communications on updates; prepare the readers’ minds (whether to expect daily, weekly or monthly updates) so they know what they’re getting themselves into.
5) Now this is the most important one - STOP whining! Its unnecessary and annoying. Frankly, I’d rather be ghosted than to read an author’s lamentations about how difficult it is to do what he/she claims to love doing.
That’s all folks!
PS:
If you think I was rude, read your post again.
Clowniac You’re absolutely right, authors don’t owe readers anything regardless of whether they’re reading for free or not. Likewise, readers don’t owe authors anything: they don’t have to like your books, they don’t have to vote for them, they don’t have to review or comment on them, they don’t have to save them in their libraries or even freaking read them.
Honestly, if basic, and I mean basic, standards of writing were to be adhered to; most novels on WN would fail the test and that’s being modest. In fact, when it comes to grammatical accuracy, the translations fare better than the originals (feel free to disagree). Most readers shut down their brains and read with their hearts in order to appreciate the efforts of the authors. Like someone rightly said, readers choose the plot over grammatical accuracy. That said, even the plot is so messed up sometimes that readers have to, mentally, edit it as well as the grammatical errors ( which is freaking frustrating) for the order of events to make sense.
Tip to readers:
When choosing a book to read, 1) check how far gone it is - if it’s less than a hundred chapters, then it may take a while for the story to pick up (especially so with translations which are usually a 1000+ chapters) in which case you may want to hold on; 2) check the frequency of updates by checking the last date it was updated and the intervals between each update; 3) check the creator’s comments to see if the author is one who communicates breaks in updating regularly then you may choose to read at your own risk; 4) NEVER fall the ‘comments and suggestions are welcome’ ploy cause most authors say that but end up whining and ranting when you actually comment and suggest honestly (except, of course, if you’re painting black white).Tips for authors (if I may, o magnificent ones):
1) don’t be in a hurry to publish your book if you’ve not completed up to 75% of the raw/draft/first edited text, cause once you publish, readers will keep demanding for updates to feed their suspense (I dare say that it’s only on WN that this is considered a bad thing).2) Don’t open the floodgate of suggestions if you can’t handle honest views and opinions.
3) Minimise subplots involving supporting characters as these leave too many loose ends to resolve, especially when there’s no clear connection to the main plot. (I suspect this to the main cause of ‘writer’s block’ here).
4) Be sincere in your communications on updates; prepare the readers’ minds (whether to expect daily, weekly or monthly updates) so they know what they’re getting themselves into.
5) Now this is the most important one - STOP whining! Its unnecessary and annoying. Frankly, I’d rather be ghosted than to read an author’s lamentations about how difficult it is to do what he/she claims to love doing.
That’s all folks!
PS:
If you think I was rude, read your post again.
- In Privileges
Selenatan Disclaimer: I’m going to be swearing a lot cause I’m f****** pissed!
So, apparently, it’s your fault for NOT expecting to pay for the same chapters like ‘normal’ people. See those rules for accessing privileges? You probably read them all the while thinking ‘yay, I get to read 50 more chapters from where I stopped at the start of every month’ cause, that would be normal since it’d speed up your reading of the over 1000+ or 2000+ or 3000+ or freaking 10000+ chapters novel! Well, according to Qidian/Webnovel/Tencent or whatever f*** company is running the scam, joke’s on you! Cause you just got tricked into reading at same pace for quadruple the price. If you spend another 2000 SS this month, you’ll still be taken back 50 chapters at the start of next month as per the ‘normal’ practice.
So what do you think eh? Do you still feel ‘privileged’? Of course some dheads and a***s here think you shouldn’t expect things to be normal when they’re ‘normal’ F a****s!!! NewCultivator Oh plenty offense taken. You’re both insensitive and uncultured to brand people ‘stupid’ just because they trusted in a system. Who do you think suffers if people read these books for free on other sites? Authors, translators, editors etc. that’s who! My eagerness to read a story ahead is a credit to the effort and time these folks put in to get their work out there so don’t just go shooting off your mouth and keep your rubbish thoughts to yourself! I****!!!
BigMike72 Hey, you’re probably right, I mean you do make a valid point - we did let our anxiety take control of our financial reasoning which is why we were sucked into paying over 200% more to read our favorite stories. But, as a victim let me say - you’re an a***, a super, duper a***! Have a nice life
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