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Pegazz
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Any recommendations on pricing and how many words each volume should be on Amazon? My 1st book just finished its 1st volume at 30 chapters and 75k words. The earlier chapters need redone since my writing was rougher back then, but would that be long enough to publish you think? Did you guys pay someone to create covers available for commercial use?

    ssound5rs Authors cant delete reviews or comments on their novels as a fact. The only ones who have the ability to do so are the admin of webnovel or the commenter. Hope this clears it up.

    [unknown] Yeah i paid someone to create a new cover for me. 75k words is enough as amazon crackin down on short novels full of ads etc. Min words is like 40k to not be put into a "short story" category.

    All of this could be cleared up if only webnovel were willing to make the contract public so everyone could see for themselves.

    Just saying.

      Pegazz
      Thanks for all the info. I think I'll try publishing once I fix the early chapters of my book.

        SnoozySloth You have to 'tell' your requirement to the creator. Ensure to get 'the right to use your image as a 'book cover'. Sometimes an ebook license and traditional printing license is different. It is better if you find someone who can negotiate about 'revision'.

        ssound5rs Perhaps, Ale removed his own comment. Some people attacking him in that comment. I think that is a bad bullying netizen behavior, each side should show their argument to balance. Nothing is 100% perfect.

        whe Actually Webnovel has a risk, Tapas etc can outbid them if they show the contract public.

        No company would do that. Besides, they lost the ability to modify a contract for later times once a contract shown. From a business negotiation stand point, showing your stance before a negotiation is bad.

        ssound5rs PS: Someone has reminded this to you, but you saw the later contract in another novel. Demi is one of the most productive authors.

        [unknown] PS: I have suggested a rotating banner for Webnovel's contracted work (translation and original). You can make app ads with different novels. Readers also would enjoy seeing novel illustration. Webnovel also could introduce more novels to its own readers perhaps making them paying for SS. This only cost in-house designer time.

        A good step. Finally saw 'The Mech Touch' on rotating banner. I think it will be either Kevin or Anjee first. Nevertheless, congratulation to Exlor.

        JavaSprings I noted that it would happen in the employers country (China (HK is close enough)) . To actually enforce legal obligations and have a legal battle, the person who signed the contract would have to go to China/HK. If the signee refuses to comply (ignores the employer), the employer would have to go to the country of whoever signed the contract and attempt to seek restitution through the legal system of the signees country. Whether legal action is pursued or not, the contract would be considered broken at that point, and no real action can be taken from outside the signees country. This wouldn't really affect the signee as long as they stay out of China and avoid dealings in the future. This, however, would be considered bad faith on the signees part, if they ignore agreements to settle legal action as stated in the contract.

        MasterRabbink This is better than the slave contract rumor, where it was rumored future novels has to be 'contracted' to WN.

        Saw something in NU. Please consider this post as a cancellation of that sentence that I wrote above! The rest, I think still stand. Some parts seems more clear and acceptable, some part become 'needed' more legal consultation.

          They dare to say author got their own copyright ?
          Should change that to "you got your copyright as long as you become our obedient slave. when you revolt we get your copyright and we will take back all you gain from it. any derivative work rights will be ours even if you want to make damn sequel/prequel/spin off. if by any chance you get your own rights back, we still wont pay you any dimes."

          2.6 For the avoidance of doubt, Party A has the full right to create independently, or designate a third party to create, other works incorporating elements of the Work (such as creating sequels, prequels, continuations, expansions or to peers works) based on the characters, plots, props, concepts and backgrounds of the Work; the copyright to such New Works shall exclusively belong to Party A, and Party A may deal with such New Works as it wishes without any permission from Party B.

          3.1 In consideration of the undertakings of Party A contained in this Agreement and subject to the payment by Party A of the remuneration to Party B pursuant to Clause 6, Party B hereby grants to Party A and its Affiliates, and Party A and its Affiliates accept, a worldwide, exclusive (to the exclusion of any and all third parties including Party B ), perpetual, irrevocable, freely transferable and sublicensable license of the entire copyright subsisting in the Work, including, without limitation:

          (i) the New Works Rights;
          (ii) the Audio Adaptation Rights;
          (iii) the English Paperback Publication Rights;
          (iv) the Distribution Rights; together with
          any and all intellectual property rights in and to the Works for any purpose, including, without limitation, for promotion, marketing, sales and any other forms of commercial or economic exploitation.

          3.4 For the avoidance of doubt, in view of the license of the New Works Rights pursuant to Clause 3.1, Party A has the full right to create, or designate a third party to create, other works incorporating elements of the Work (such as creating sequels, prequels, continuations, expansions or to peers works) based on the characters, plots, props, concepts and backgrounds of the Work; the copyright to such New Works shall exclusively belong to Party A, and Party A may deal with such New Works as it wishes without any necessity for any permission or consent from Party B.

          3.6 After the expiration of the copyright protection period of the copyrights subsisting in the Work, Party B agrees that Party A may still retain and publish the contents of the Work on Party A's Web Channel(s), but, on or after such expiration, Party A is not entitled to charge any fees for the sales of the Work. Party B agrees that, if for any reason any part of the licence granted herein has expired or the Agreement has been terminated, Party A and the operators of the relevant platforms shall have the right to continue to publish the contents of the Work to customers who have purchased and paid for the Work (including but not limited to readers on Party A's Web Channel(s) and related websites authorized by Party A).

          3.7 For the avoidance of doubt, any reference in this Clause 3 to any rights granted by Party B to Party A for the publication, reproduction and/or adaption of the Work:
          3.7.1 includes not only publication, reproduction and/or adaption of the Work itself, but also any interim drafts or previous versions of the Work;

          3.7.2 includes Party A's right to adapt the Work into any media or any form.

          9.2 If Party B is in breach of Clause 3 of this Agreement, Party A may take such measures as is necessary and appropriate to protect its own rights and interests, including but not limited to the termination of royalties payments and the termination of the Agreement; moreover, Party B shall return all income obtained from Party A from the performance of this Agreement and compensate Party A for all losses suffered in that connection, including but not limited to any expenses incurred by Party A such as notary fees, attorney fees, accreditation fees, litigation fees, and travel fees.

            CKtalon
            Are there any additional details on contracts anywhere? Such as the minimum requirements to be offered one? I think a lot of us that are interested in contracts would like to know what to aim for. If a contract was offered, would the notice come via email or through a WebNovel notification?

              If Amazon wasn't around you all would be in for a rude awakening on what Authors really make and what rights they retain.

              WN contract is more lenient than if you were to take a book to a publisher or screen play to hollywood.

                CKtalon
                I get that, but are there any specific numbers? Like x number of readers, x number of collections, etc. Like a bare minimum you use before even considering a book? I understand the minimum wouldn't guarantee anything, but I'd like a goalpost =p to aim for.

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