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The fastpass expire. The chapters don't remain unlocked. Conclusion : The fast past is worthless to me. My daily life don't allow me to read every single day.
Tomoyuki And no, no matter how many more "free users" you get to browse the site, you still won't get enough revenue from ads alone to cover the costs. Even Royal Road knows this and they offer premium membership monthly subscription. People overestimate the amount of revenue that ads can bring.
I am an active reader on Royal road and belive me when i say that they will not block certain content if you do not pay premium, but if you want to help the site it is a great way to do it, on the other hand Quidian does it (block content)
Tomoyuki No one is forcing you to pay anything or cornering you.
before you could have read all your fav light novels now u jungle betwen wich one seems more important for you with the amount of spirit stones they give you and if you do not like it, just pull the money baby. "this is cornering you to buy btw"
Tomoyuki But sure, go ahead and pirate stories from free sites, and gloat over how you have the moral high ground, how Qidian deserves to be stolen from because it's greedy, while whining about not getting free stuff and benefiting off other people's hard work for free
Royal Road is a great example of how everybody profits, some authors almost get 10k per month from patreon giving fresh ch to the theyr patreons, and the free users can read for free even thogh they are 5 or 10 ch behind + the ones who want more chapters and want to donate can became a patreon.
and about
Tomoyuki by the way, if you're pirating stories, you're not stealing from Qidian, you're stealing from the authors, the content creators and the translators
If the authors are any good, they dont rely on the part of people who read theyr stories on the pirating sites.
An example would be how i bought a book even though i have read that book online, but it was soo good i had to have it in my house, it is realy special knowing i have an original book.
I would imagine it being the same on the internet, read some pirated shit and if u liked it and finished reading it, donate some money to the author showing some gratitude for they'r effort, if the book is not good, then what the hell are you doing reading it from a pirating site?
[unknown] The big difference is : with the free ss/coin the chapter are unlocked PERMANENTLY, you can read it when you want. A month after? Two month? Even three month? No problem! If you unlocked this chapter with a free ss/coin it will be there. The fast past don't unlock a chapter permanently. It's worthless for the reader like me.
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HeavenShatterer Royal Road =/= Patreon.
Royal Road does not pay writers or translators. You want money, you set up your own Patreon. I think you are getting confused over something. Writers who get 10k per month from Patreon don't necessarily post on Royal Road. Most writers on Royal Road write for free. And most writers on Royal Road update weekly, or once every 3-4 days, instead of everyday in Webnovel. I ought to know, I was from there.
Most importantly, Royal Road is NOT a case where everybody profits. Unless you have a Patreon - and not all Royal Road writers do - you don't profit. Similarly, not all stories on Webnovel are under contract. So, just like Royal Road, you get to read them for free.
Also, most successful writers on Royal Road go publish their novels on Amazon. And guess what? They remove their stories from the site because...Amazon rules.
You are confusing Royal Road with Patreon and maybe Amazon. I like Royal Road, even though a good number of people hounded me out and forced me to delete my stories there, but it's a completely different model from Webnovel. I only raised it as an example to show you that solely relying on ads for revenue is not sustainable.
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HeavenShatterer
Its very simple when you spend alot of time doing alot of work are you expecting to get paid?
If you clean the streets for 4 hours do you get paid?
If you write an Original Novel for 4 hours do you get paid?
If you start complaing about free currency which you use to unlock things people spend hours doing then just leave most of us Authors don't spend hours looking to see people complain that the free chapters in locked/contracted books aren't enough. Especially when you get to unlock them forever after you unlock a book.
You need to understand what the word "FREE" means and what being paid for your hardwork means as well
P.S sorry fanfic authors...(I'm one of you)
Tomoyuki Most importantly, Royal Road is NOT a case where everybody profits. Unless you have a Patreon - and not all Royal Road writers do - you don't profit.
It is free to make an Patreon, and if your story is good u make money, u can also write for memes or just some fanfiction or just write because u enjoy it, so the authors can profit if they want.
Tomoyuki Also, most successful writers on Royal Road go publish their novels on Amazon. And guess what? They remove their stories from the site because...Amazon rules.
Also authors can change some words here and there and bam, the story does not need to be taken down, there are authors who have done it on Royal Road
By everybody profiting i was not say monetarly , free users get content, authors get money or practice or joy from writing and the site gets traffic and people who want to donate so they became premium
HeavenShatterer Patrons are hard to get compared to the webnovel contracting system where you get paid by word no matter how bad your novel is after getting contracted. Which is much better then royal road where you are just left among the many.
HeavenShatterer Royal Road does not pay writers...so even if you become premium member on Royal Road, the writers do not receive a single cent.
Also, I'm confused. You are whining about not getting free stuff from Webnovel, but you have no qualms subscribing and paying people monthly on Patreon. What?
HeavenShatterer Patrons are hard to get compared to the webnovel contracting system where you get paid by word no matter how bad your novel is after getting contracted. Which is much better then royal road where you are just left among the many.
Also it is still against most companies policy when they sell it and they keep it up here and if people on royal road do such things they could be under threat by a serious lawsuit.
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HeavenShatterer By everybody profiting i was not say monetarly , free users get content, authors get money or practice or joy from writing and the site gets traffic and people who want to donate so they became premium
Are you misunderstanding how Patreon works? Let's say this writer writes on Royal Road and becomes popular. He gets a Patreon page. Then this is what happens. The writers who have Patreon often lock their future chapters behind paywalls. Just like Baisiwa with his Number One Under Heaven. You read until chapter 50 on Royal Road? Cool. Turns out the author has Chapters 50-60 on his Patreon page. Also turns out that you can't read them unless you're subscribed to pay him monthly. And maybe the subscription has tiers - those who donate $1 a month only get to read Chapter 51. Those who donate $5 a month get to read up to Chapter 55. And those who donate $10 a month get to read until Chapter 60. Sounds familiar, hmm?
That's pretty much the same system as Webnovel. So why exactly are Patreon writers less greedy? And why are you willing to pay writers on Patreon, but you get upset when you have less free spirit stones to unlock Webnovel writers' stories despite still not paying a single cent?
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Tomoyuki Also, I'm confused. You are whining about not getting free stuff from Webnovel, but you have no qualms subscribing and paying people monthly on Patreon. What?
that is beacuse Quidian was free, now they are like a whale tryng to swalow every last cent possible.
I have no problem sponsoring the author, it is a choice if i want or not, either way i can read the novel, Quidian is restricting content in case i don't want to pay and making things that were normaly free, premium or pay to get.
Tomoyuki Royal Road does not pay writers...so even if you become a premium member on Royal Road, the writers do not receive a single cent.
i was sayng how Royal Road also benefits is the reader want to donate
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Tomoyuki
Hmm lets see, here is the math;
50ss from 7 days continuous check-in end week gift package
55ss from weekly reading missions(5+5+5+5+5+10+10+10)
7x15=105ss from daily missions(power, energy and ad video)(5+5+5)
5x(9+9)=90ss for the 5 weekday check-ins(yes, i got 9ss per check-in and then 9 more as multiplier. I checked my logs and can send them if you want me to prove it. I always got 9 + 9 every day from just check-in and multiplier.)
(2x15ss)+(2x(8 to 15ss)) = 50 ss on avarage for the last two weekend bonus days. (yes, i got 8 to 15 multiplier randomly, which i also looked at from my logs)
In total, this makes;
50 + 55 + 105 + 90 + 50 = 350ss
So it wasn't 400, my bad. 350ss per week means an avarage of 50 ss per day, which seems like a pretty calculated ammount. Probably decided by Webnovel as the max avarage ss an account could get per day. So 30 x 50=1500ss. The reason why i could have over 1600ss hoarded was probably because i also had gift two books option extending some of the life of my ss at the cost of 5ss per day.
N0xiety What check in gift package? I never got that. And how did you get 50 spirit stones for last two weekend bonuses? I only ever got 20 from daily check-in.
All I got was the daily SS from check in and missions, so that was 25, plus an extra 10 on weekends, so that's 195 spirit stones per week. I never got the check in gift package (how did you get that?) and I don't bother with the weekly reading missions. I read what I wanted to, and on the PC so I never got any spirit stones from the reading missions.
Has the gift package and weekly reading missions been changed or removed, or do you still get Spirit Stones from them? And the weeked bonuses, I don't know if they have changed it or will give something else. Never received 50 spirit stones from weekend bonuses before, so I have no idea what you're talking about.
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HeavenShatterer ...you do know that Royal Road writers who use Patreon do the exact same thing, by restricting future chapters in case you don't want to pay? They literally require you to go to their Patreon page and unlock chapters by getting you to donate to them monthly.
There literally is no difference between donating to writers on Webnovel, or donating to writers on Patreon. The only difference is that you get free currency on Webnovel so you can unlock premium chapters without ever paying a single cent. On Patreon, however, if you don't want to donate monthly, you're pretty much screwed when the writer locks his chapters behind a paywall...because there is no free currency you can use to unlock them.
Well, duh, Qidian realized that the business model of free stuff wasn't sustainable and they need money to cover the costs of hosting the website and translations, of course they'll have to change the model and find a way to make money to cover the expenses. They are not a charity organization. If you've been giving out pies for free to your neighbors, and then realize you're running into debt from buying ingredients, cooking (gas and electricity), etc. you'll eventually have no choice but to charge your neighbors for your pies or stop cooking. Or should your neighbors complain and steal pies from you while you're not looking then? All because you gave them out for free in the first month before you ended up in debt?
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Tomoyuki Weekly bonus gift package has been reduced to 20ss right now, so for checking in 7 days consecutively, you can get 20ss in the app right now, which used to be 50ss. Also, the reading reward has been reduced to 30ss in total, which used to be 55ss in total. I can also show you the log of my weekend check-in bonus for an example
Daily check-in +8 Android 2019-11-10 07:26 Expire on 2019-12-09 19:00
Daily check-in +15 Android 2019-11-10 07:26 Expire on 2019-12-09 19:00
Daily check-in +14 Android 2019-11-08 19:38 Expire on 2019-12-08 19:00
Daily check-in +15 Android 2019-11-08 19:37 Expire on 2019-12-08 19:00
This used to be a weeks weekend bonus and multiplier on the app for two days. So as you can see, it generally avaraged at 50ss, which for this particular week was 52. Sometimes it could give 48. Or sometimes more than 52 like the week in example. So yeah, it avaraged at 50 per week for the weekend bonus check ins.
Ps. There is no more weekend bonus for check-in as far as i can see.