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Youryum I'm not spreading lies about the Patreons since they just visible before everything, Qidian just made a way for dealing with it.. haven't you give consideration for all the efforts they were doing for the convenient use of those novels?

Rokuman_24 Why would I even believe with that?

Youryum Cause it was factual that they do their best actions for the whole group and it was your own problem why you could not accept that as a fact that it was really as it was...

Rokuman_24 You know what kid it was so really hard to argue with the people who just really having a hard time with themselves, so why not cool yourself and let them get out from you nerves?

Them expiring is ridiculous honestly.

Mute if they don’t expire. People can technically be ridiculously rich

Miya And? You can only get a certain amount a day, if they don't use them, they're not reading the bonus chapters and should be able to use them when they want.

Gibbs Nope its true.
Taken from Sailor Boy Patreon Page of Immortal Mortal:
Hi everyone, we understand that many of you are frustrated with this new premium program. To be honest, we are feeling no different than all of you. I've read through the comments that some of you have put here and on Webnovel.com and I would like to make some clarifications.

1. Translators aren't the ones deciding the way the chapters are charged, as well as the number of spirit stones are charged per chapter.
2. We are contracted translators that sell our chapters to Qidian to upload. The way they choose to upload up to them.
3. Translators do not get incentives from the premium program. As said in (2), we are contracted translators. Thus, we have a fixed pay per chapter. Premium chapters go directly to Qidian.
4. Patreon vs. Premium is not a legit fight. As contracted translators, we cannot do anything which undermines the goals of Qidian. Originally when there wasn't the premium program, we were allowed to run Patreon as a means to earn more income. But now, we have to take it down. Frankly, this isn't better for us cos our salaries fall due to this. This fall is close to a 40% fall.

We understand that these clarifications won't do much to change the fact that Immortal Mortal will be an expensive novel to read. However, we hope that all of you will continue to support this novel and our translation team. Besides Immortal Mortal, there are still other novels that our Sparrow Translations will be translating and we believe that they will also be as exciting. Do keep a look out for them! :)
https://www.patreon.com/posts/about-premium-16915067
https://forum.webnovel.com/d/3778-immortal-mortal-patreon

i told you right, he is being sarcasm when he create this https://forum.webnovel.com/d/3690-let-s-make-with-premium

Gibbs Oh! I thought that there will be special (hidden) privileges if you buy SS...

NormalRanked Well maybe someday there will be...

Antoin Maybe that would mark the unsatisfied ones satisfied. Well if they implemented it haha

NormalRanked Sounds a good idea for bringing the war down haha

truee

NormalRanked Yes there is a special privilege. They can give you a badge next o your icon. Congratulations. That will be the moat you'll get in the future from it thought.

Gibbs I always wanted a badge... cause my friends have one and I don't :'(

Gibbs Oh ok.... Hoping there will be more in the future

Mute and so qi won't be able to make any money because of hoarders. there has to be a countermeasure for this

and the expiration system was what they came up with. it's not one of the best, mind you, but it's more profitable for them

Miya Why is hoarding them worse for Qidian than those that spend them in due time? Perhaps i want to save my stones for 1 series as it gets further, why is that worse for Qidian than if i spent all of my daily stones as i get them?

Gibbs LOL Who isn't a premium user?

ErickErickErick All new users get a newbie badge. But old accounts don't.

Miya Exactly I would like to focus on the latter point. It's more profitable. I believe we already ascertain that Qidian's religious beliefs symbolizes a Fat old man with a huge belly goarding a sack of gold twice his size. With starving children carrying him every where.

Mute Yes but. If yo don't save them then you need to get more. And when you have less you will buy more. It's blatant extortion. Get used to the business model.

[unknown] I'm not... My virtue is my patience lol

GodlyStudent Can you send an email to suggestion@webnovel.com with your account information. We will check if your SS status is OK. Thanks.

lol, I just realized ss can be expired if I do not use them.

yey

PaidThePrice Yeahh... the daily SS expires in 1 month and bonus one is 3 month..

The expiry dates are not that bad... unless you read a lot of chapters in a single day, I honestly skim read novels that have a lot of face slapping in it, and the whole explanation and overly arrogant characters talking, which hypes up the story by pissing the reader off XD. The sure fix of the expiry problem, unless it is due to technical difficulties, is to spend it all before it expires as simple as that, if it is due to technical difficulties and you feel you are being cheated then do what you want.

Bump

Isn't it quite obvious what is happening?
1. Quidian want people to buy spirit stones.
2. People prefer to watch a 15 sec ad instead.
3. Ads get removed.
4. Quidian want people to buy spirit stones.
5. People prefer to use their saved up spirit stones.
6. Spirit stones get "expired"
7. Quidian want people to buy spirit stones.
8. People buy spirit stones.
9. Quidian want people to buy MORE spirit stones.
10. Prices per chapter get increased.
11. People buy spirit stones.
12. Quidian want people to buy MORE spirit stones.
13. Price of spirit stones gets increased.
14. People buy spirit stones.
15. Quidian want people to buy MORE spirit stones.
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99. People are stupid.

Companies are not your friend. They don't like you, don't love you, don't care for you. They are legal entities that exist to make the maximum amount of profit off of you that they can. This topic is a fascinating study of people passionately arguing against their own benefit. Its why point 99 exists after all.

yasensn bow The Messiah has appeared!!!!

TheDragonReborn its not like we dont want to use the stone but not everyday we waste the time to open the application or browser to spent the stone

Lonelytree so if i purchase the ss for 50 ss the option said, they will add 50 ss so totally will 100. Did the 50+ is bonuses?

Miya i used to hoard my ss when it was first implemented.. but that doesnt mean i wont be using them.. i spent all of them to read.. and the consumption beats the free ss income and i always end up in the negative. I believe that the buyers are frustrated about this expiry issue not because there are lesser to hoard but due to there will be lesser ss for them to spend. Qidian is a growing trove of precious craftsmanship, and buying ss just to keep them is just what an idiot would do..

SkyCrowws You can still have a patreon if you continue translating under an alies after making a different account.

Gibbs there's a lot of institutions that are like that. but not Qi, and it's not for the lack of trying. trust me, they're trying but it's because of people like you that instead of being fat, qi is becoming more and more anorexic.
it's not that people like you are bad, but it's just that you guys' opinions are toxic to a startup who's looking to plant their roots in the new frontier.
if qi is successful here, i'd imagine a lot of other webnovel companies will follow suit. but qi just has to be the pioneer to test out the waters, first.

Miya If 1 obnoxious bored loser lying on his bed with a bit more time can ruin a company's advance.... Well it wasn't meant to be. Honestly I'd take it as a personal accomplishment.

Miya I mean I am just bored now. I am not even trying to ruin them. As for my opinion I am just speaking the truth. There are plenty of other websites and Qudian is also limiting the translators. Isn't it better to move on to the online releases.