LVTeacherman I think you need to meet more females. I would agree with you if we were talking over majority. But I get it that it's not the case from your message.
Humans are all different and there are women with "male-like" behaviors as well as men with "female-like" behaviors.
Also I don't see this being an overused trope. You almost never see stories like this on the Webnovel platform.

    I'm tired of the female big boss trope. She goes missing, then suddenly she's one OP character? Hiding capabilities from the whole world, able to defeat world fighting champions, best hacker, etc.

    I'm tired of the CEO loves me trope. In fact, I'm getting tired of romance novels in general, they're all the same on this platform.

      Ferrarius

      I think teacherman is correct here. It’s not about “female actions” vs “male actions,” he is talking about character design. I know men and women can do all of the same things, but they have physical and mental differences.

      All characters need a high level of thought to be believable, but if you are writing a character who is the opposite gender as yourself, there is some specific work that might need to go into making them more like the other gender. That is not to say that your women characters need to be weak or dainty, but they probably won’t stand up and pee on a tree… you know?

      A common play on this that rather like is the classic “let’s ask for directions” scene. The female character wants to stop and ask for directions, but the male character claims he knows exactly where he is going. Perhaps it is just my life, but this is so true from what I’ve seen. Male pride says, “You need to figure this out yourself!” The female brain says, “Asking for directions makes it more likely we don’t get lost.” Both characters could be hacking their way through a jungle with a machete or riding in a fancy carriage with this scene still applied somehow. It isn’t based on the actions. This is a difference in how men vs women tend to think.

        shadowdrake27 I'm pretty sure men ask for directions too. I have done so when I'm lost, and I've helped guys find their way around after they ask me for directions as well.

          shadowdrake27 If talking about power and things like that then there is no argument. It is pointless to discuss such an obvious answer since all of us can see it with our own eyes.
          I was just commenting on the part where he said that they "think different". And like I said, I think most of them do. After all, since old times we have grown up with different expectations and roles (not that I have anything against them).
          But that does not make everyone, and I don't think that making a story about a woman who handles herself (David and Goliath) in times where they were treated like objects is bad. On the contrary, if we drop the "all-powerful" character trope that plagues the male MC side of WN I think we can build an incredible story.
          And I'm not saying this because of "woman exposure" or crap like that. Just simply because conflict comes easy at every step because of that. Without you needing to go and find it. And conflict is what keeps your story alive.

          Ferrarius I do see them all the time in print and on Amazon. And I totally agree that people have both female and male traits. Either I didn't word that well or you misread it. I probably didn't word it well... lol

            LVTeacherman I'm sorry if that was the case. I should not have jumped into conclusion.
            And yes, I can see Amazon having a lot of that. But in that case it is usually terribly done. There is nothing good in a story written following a political agenda. At least in my opinion.

              shadowdrake27
              I'm a new writer.Fated stars is my first book and I would like you to review the small part I have written. I don't want to end up writing a cliché story.

                Brynt_Ace

                Is there a reason I’m the only one singled out for this? I feel like this is abuse. Right now I don’t have time to review your story. There is quite literally a foot of snow falling on my driveway that needs to be cleared before I’m trapped at my house… wait, wouldn’t that be a good thing? Either way, I have to say no to your request.

                  Brynt_Ace

                  Is there a reason I’m the only one singled out for this? I feel like this is abuse. Right now I don’t have time to review your story. There is quite literally a foot of snow falling on my driveway that needs to be cleared before I’m trapped at my house… wait, wouldn’t that be a good thing? Either way, I have to say no to your request.

                    Brynt_Ace Please don't shamelessly self-advertise. This isn't the thread for that. And before you ask me, no, I do not have the time to read your book.

                      Ferrarius It's all good. It's a concept I haven't mastered yet so my explanations aren't as sharp as I'd like.

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