Why do readers enjoy the most basic repeat novels rather than novels that are unique to the author Example being MC kills annoying noble

    TheOGDuanChen It's not that they simply like a repeat, it is that you don't see the originality that is hidden within due to the amount of repeat that other novels do. Example; MC has an op cheat that allows him/her to kill annoying noble v.s. MC has a natural talent that seems op but he needs to train hard to use, and he uses it to kill the annoying noble.;,;.

      DeJeL Then why not go use that idea in a different world or one that has similarities with the world they are referencing. For me personally, I can only find the originality in the synopsis. Rather than the actual novel itself

        DeJeL Well planned novel might have a different scenario, MC kills annoying noble to make some noise which brings out his family, then finally he sneaks noble family and steals something from them.

          TheOGDuanChen Try to make 1.000 chapters outline.

          At one point, the author would just recycles ideas.

          For example a standard novel is around 100k words. If we use 1.500 words/chapter that was the standard in Webnovel = 67 Chapters. Imagine... A 1.000 chapters = 15 novels. At 15 novels, everyone would repeat the idea.

          If you ask why not a make a shorter one? A webnovel contracted author could only put his/her novel into premium after 200k words. (133 chapters). Do you think they would just make a 300 chapters long novel? (Same rules applied on Qidian.)

          So you know, why a web novel usually has good beginning, repeating middle, and quick cut at the ending.

          Good beginning = attracting readers with free sample (bait). Repeating Middle = Getting money to feed the author's family. (Some authors are the bread winner of a family. The first 133 chapters = 4 month daily release.). Quick cut = no longer popular/the author want to write new idea.

          I think they are not satisfied with the first one so they search the lacking element onto the next until they found the perfect one. After all, it's so easy to scroll down (without reading properly) if you already knew the plot... Then skip to the most intriguing titled chapter.

            TheOGDuanChen I find the concept of unique novels to be somewhat funny. If you can think of a plot, it's been done. So the only "unique" part of a novel is going to be its world or its "laws." And even most of that has probably been done.
            So, with that said, I basically don't understand your question. What is this unique that you speak of?

              TheOGDuanChen

              The only way to create something unique is with a lot of research, usually something unique is in the sciatic surveys, or in a more gender of social study and that is associated with the study of a certain culture.

              You will hardly find this in a webnovel, not to mention that original just if it is the idea of ​a "new" world, but everything has to be based on something, even if it is in a bible of a random tribe or flolcloric legends of your country.

              So we're always using something as a basis, webnovel is just another way to do it.

              Imagine a novel by the Tupinikin Indians (Indigenous tribe in the BR), they travel to the future... I do not know why, but it arrives in the future and there begins its saga to return to the past or adapt to the future.

              Someone outside Brazil, who is not an anthropologist or scholar or who has any connection with BR, will know what a fucking tupiniquim is (not denigrating my beautiful Indians, because think of a beautiful people!).

              Oops, I got away from it.

              And even that example, I only changed who would travel to the future, because the plot must already exist somewhere!

              Unless someone discovered a new theory of space and someone later makes a webnovel, there is no way to be original.

              Now if you're talking about being cliche, always writing the same thing, kind of killing a villain random cannon bush and the MC being OP that kind of thing .... which is actually laziness of the author (after 200 or more chapters, I even understand the author), has little to do with originality. Being original does not get into the problem you're facing, but it's more sloppy, lazy, the cliche that sort of thing.

              Now anyone who wants a romance with Tupini characters calls me! #Just kidding

                Take_the_Moon Sounds like you do have a good basis for a story there. I'm only terrified because of the possible routes you might take if you wrote it, lol. I like to think I'm fairly open-minded. But BL stuff makes me cringe a little. ;p
                Then again, Harem just about makes me cringe too these days...

                  lozlo

                  Write about the BR Indians?
                  It's not going to happen, I do not have the property to write about the Indians, besides sending for that fucking future that's happening in BR.

                  Better not!

                  I love BL!

                  I came to a conclusion, the novels are all the same, what will make it different is how well the MC is built and the characters that interact with the MC. Because the world may be cliche, but if the MC is well built then nothing will matter because you will be focused on the climb of the MC to the top of the world.

                  Now what a lot of authors confused, is what composes this MC, is not only physical description, mental, OP, or empty compliments about its beauty, strength, wisdom, but what builds a good MC are their rivals and loves.

                  The stronger the rival, villain, enemy, the more interested the reader gets over the plot and how the MC will beat that rival. ISSHT is a clear example of this.

                  I love this novel! An MC that was not born OP and that goes up gradually, that was defeated and reargue ... Ours, I am a fan of this author!

                  Anyway, there was nothing different in the story, because there are stories with MC, not OP, but the construction of the MC step by step was the key point of this plot.

                  Better stop writing about ISSHT if I will not be writing text.

                    Take_the_Moon Yeah, I know. I checked the history and noticed a BL novel link, lol. So I had to make a joke about it. ;p
                    Though, reading one really would make me cringe, so I won't be reading any willingly, lol.

                    I see it a bit differently. I look at novels as a conversation. The author is telling me how they think, and what they can envision. So, if the way they think is too far off from things I find acceptable, I will stop reading, or just not read at all.
                    For example, Transcending the Nine Heavens. The author started the story based on a guy who died, with his last thoughts being about the woman he loved, and who died because of him. Then he ends up going back in time, and swears to do better this time. By making a fucking harem? Fuck that. I created a list and named it trash, just to put that novel on my trash list. If a harem is built well, I'll accept it, even though I'm not particularly fond of it. But don't try to tell me someone's greatest desire is to please a certain woman who they deeply love, and they're going to do that by creating a harem. That actually makes me slightly upset.

                      lozlo

                      I agree with you! Now marry me

                      Hahahaha! Someone who found this romance sucks!

                      I fully agree!

                      On the first part, I also agree, if the ideas that the author writes are not consistent with the proposed reality or against my moral concepts, or even against the basic rationality itself, I also do not read. But, buddy, if even that's not good, the MC must be crap, which does not revoke what I wrote earlier.

                      No, that's up to a mistake what I wrote above. But I'll leave it anyway, just to clarify my point of view below.

                      I've read stories that the MC and the world were very good, but then the author started with a talk exalting socialism about capitalism when MC was a stingy businessman!

                      At first, because of the MC and the novel itself, I kept reading, but there came a time when I could not take it anymore and I left the novel.

                      So you are absolutely right if the idea that the author passes really, does not match the morality of the reader or with the basic ideas of the reader, you really can not read or like this type of novel.

                        Take_the_Moon That's not the response I usually elicit from women. So I'm not sure if I should be happy or terrified. You might be working on creating your own BL romance here in the forum, lol. ;p

                        That's the part that really frustrated me. The portion of the story I read seemed pretty good. He actually built up some of the characters, and there were some intricate relationships. But he made a promise at the beginning of the story, and that promise was actually the reason I read the story. So, when I found out he lied, I quit reading. I've started reading a few novels that did that. Started out "Protagonist Loyal to Love Interest" and then switched to harem/polygamy like 300+ chapters in. It's very disappointing. I'm fairly hesitant to pick up novels that aren't finished for that exact reason.

                          lozlo

                          I know how you feel, I've also read novels that promise romance 1x1 and end up in the harem! Or worse, this romance 1x1 in the novel is full of rampant culture or something like that, the author has the dorky face to say that this is a romance full of love!

                          When that happens, I can only abandon the novel and speak ill of it so nobody will read that kind of crap.

                            Take_the_Moon That's what I mean by basic because most of what I see is a repeat of that same cliche script. I understand if it's too push the plot along, but it normally doesn't end there with the cliche script and repeats throughout the novel. Its that kind of lazy writing that readers love.

                            Baal Character portrayal, pacing, description, the logic behind the characters. The different routes the characters can take in that same plot and world is what makes can make it unique. However, most authors tend to go the same route. Example being if I were to compare spirit immortal to doludalu, the world is similar. But the route the author took is completely different.

                              TheOGDuanChen I can't stand JP novels with the nonstop harem and "As expected of MC" lines appearing nonstop.

                              Toika (Korean) also had that problem A LOT in his Everyone is a Returnee

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