miomoimeik okey, thanks :D can't edit it though :P
there seems a time limit for editing a comment after its been posted.

    Luofuchen my view on this post is that it's somewhat informative. maybe it even serves as a wake up call for some people here.
    imagine a poisonous plate of spaghetti. you know it's poisonous but you still wanna eat it 'cause it tastes so good.
    then someone happened to walk by and they wanna warn you: "hey dude, that's poisonous. what are you doing to yourself."
    see it's still up to you to decide whether you'd still wanna consume that plate of spaghetti. do you still wanna risk an ambulance's ride to the hospital for the heavenly taste of that sweet sweet munchies? :spaghetti: #noodles4lyfeyo #noregrets
    maybe no spaghetti can defeat the godly you, so good for you. ignore him and move on

      Miya ??🐖
      Are you hungry or somethimy lmao? Spaghetti...

        Luofuchen Calm down and try to thing of a better way to make this model work. Where translators, editors, QI staff, authors and just everyone involved in QI to be happy.
        Dont forget about us, the readers.
        As many of us are just leechers, who dont want to pay anything because everything should be free

        it's good that translators, editors, qi staff, authors are happy. but i guess you left out the fact that consumers, customers need to be happy too in order for a business transaction to be successful. Sometimes, they're even the most critical parts of the equation. also, leechers wouldn't be leechers if they pay for things. and it's better that they're leechers than have them decided it's not worth their time to peruse novel translation of the qidian platform at all. you should appreciate leechers because they're the reason webnovel started in the first place, they're still the majority on the forum, and they play a large roll in publicizing the website to be what it is today. so i say, I stand with the leechers
        #proudtobeleecher

          TearsOfRose Well you see, there is no problem right now, but what about the future? I currently follow 22 novels. Do you know what that means if they all were to become premium? It would atleast cost $250 per month. Ok, right now it would costs about $80 because of all the promotion bonus ss they give with your purchase, but how long will that last? Bonus ss are just promotion they are doing since they just opened up ss sales, it's not like they will keep giving it forever. 50 ss costs $1...

          I'm not talking about the daily free bonus ss btw, just so you didn't get it wanted to clarify that...

            Positive_Lullaby so what do you think should be done?! Should they continue present you with all their time, and blood for nothing at all? QI does give free novel and it really isn't a paywall if you don't want to pay anything just wait a bit and the chapters will be unlocked. I don't understand for what reason you are rumbling.

              Adventsprayer the reason is, this dev is just the begining. Like the name 'paywall' . a wall need pondation. And this is it.

                Miya Yeah i know.
                Which is why it is imposssible to make everyone happy.

                I expect them to make many more novels 'premium'. And I see the steps of process behind all this. Who knows what QI next step is.

                Your analogy with poisonous food doesnt fit here. Its not that they are trying to poison us. This whole change is a nessecity to make all this work.
                They have to get money back in. Question is how. Without making this 'food' to disgusting, but still make both sides happy. Readers and QI.

                Wuxiaworld's and other translators have patreon or 'donations' to pay their bills. This is the money aspect of translating novels.
                Some even has absurd high aim for getting big $$$ to increase weekly chapter count by 1.
                no one complains here because many are just unaware of it. This QI situation is different because freebie-users are getting involved.

                It is also not a real paywall, since you can still read everything. You just have to wait a lot longer. You dont have to pay to read everything.

                My personal opinion is:

                • Current system makes it really hard to enjoy a premium novel as free-user.
                • many people dont pay, not because of dont want to but because they cant. Like young teenagers, people in tough financial situation.
                • depending on how many premium novels there are, you should be able to earn your SS to read an amount of premium novel. As of february 2018, there are 4 premium novel. I would like to see ways to earn SS so ppl can at least follow 1 of the 4 novel up to the latest chapter.
                So increase of SS gain is necessary.
                • more ways to gain SS is a must. Maybe community driven events with SS as reward. This not only bonds the community, but also provides us with more SS. A win-win situation for both sides.

                I dont like the number of increasing premium chapters.
                This makes it practically impossible to catch up to the latest chapter without paying.

                Numbers if free chapter/day and premium chapter/day should be the same.
                Maybe QI can put a percentage of chapters behind a 'premium' wall after the translation is done. But reward those who follow the translation.

                I would also like to see another way to read premium chapters. For example a 10$/month suscribtion with 3 or 6 months length. This gives us an option to read all premium chapters for lower price, while QI gets an assured income by suscribtion.

                QI could think of more ways to use the current form of SS. So buying SS still remains meaningful. For example exchange 200 SS for a power stone. Or even be able to donate SS to a novel to show their support.

                Long wall of text. Ill stop now.

                miomoimeik why are being so stingy? What composes qidian is a bunch of professional writers. Even tapas is like this.. It is much more expensive in tapas but worth it. Here in qidian is the same worth but much cheaper. You are over reacting

                  geez this guy makes an account 10 hours ago just to post something like this, really funny

                  well it cant be helped, qidian haters have been waiting for this day for long long time

                  nom nom nom
                  arguments arguments arguments

                  not paywall because later on chapters become free for access. You just have to wait hahaha, dum dum.
                  paywall only if even after a set period of time all chapters of the book is locked behind payment but that's not the current business model~

                  It's a pity people here adverse at paying stuff when their information in FB and other social sites is actually sold for a few cents

                  is that what you want Qi to do tho
                  or do you want a pop-up ad appearing while reading, since you all want it for free
                  smh pitying the webnovel team attempting to talk to these people who just echo stuff without and value.

                    ThornFlower did i say in that post that the ss are expensive? why don't i see that on my read through?
                    also, is

                    ThornFlower one dollar for 50 ss is expensive?

                    depends on who you ask

                    It's business in the first place. Why didn't you see this through? They have employees to pay. It's a way of supporting the translators/editors or Qidian itself too. :3

                      miomoimeik since apparently it is not obvious, let me state that this is not posted in protest against payment, nor am i calling you stupid.

                      this is me saying that it is obvious to everyone that this is a paywall, and qi stating otherwise is them treating us as idiots.

                      though since i need to explain this explicitly, it appears qidian might be right.

                        I find this post rather misleading, true there will be premium option but it is for binge readers, many "off grid" sites do this, pay royalty for few more chapters per release. If you can contain your inner demons and chill out till next release you will have another couple of chapters for free. That simple. Another thing to note is the " ad/ spirit stone cultivation, as ive understood you can watch ads to build up spirit stones for further reading... And tell me. In what way is this paywall? It is maybe a smokescreen that you need to wait out to clear but it is not a damn WALL...

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