MotivatedSloth It's almost cute how you think you're the only one aware of how the real world works when your naivete keeps shining through. You can make all your assumptions about me and reading into what I write with whatever your comprehension gives you. I'm simply making observations and laughing at how superior you think you are. Good luck with the idea that you can charge readers whatever you like when consumers know they are not limited to this site for entertainment. And I'm not advocating anything, just stating the obvious. You can stay in denial all you want. People don't have to resort to piracy to be entertained. Hope you deal with disappointment well.
Important Notification: There will be no more SS given away after Jan.13th
You see, I'm tired of hearing the mantras of people like you (people who use said mantras) and then claiming to be unfairly judged to be naive/misinformed/lacking in knowledge. If you were to hear some kid (just making an example, not implying you are a kid. I personally believe you are someone in late teens but before reaching the adulthood) arguing that there are no numbers lesser than 0 or even that 2+2=5, you will call them silly. But if you see someone on the internet doing the same, then you will be at first flabbergasted, and then angered when they start calling you names while hatefully trying to push their point while not using commonly accepted ways to do so.
My attitude towards you changed when I saw you using those mantras and misconceptions. Why can I speak out about ads? Because I used to manage some sites that earned from them. Why can I speak about ads on youtube? Because there is a great amount of people that explained this topic thoroughly. But what are you offering in your "arguments?"
So far, you are doing one of the four things and compose all your replies with mix of those.
1) Belittling me personally and thus proving that arguments (not sure about the word here, points I'm bringing?) can't be true because such a person like me brought them.
2) Using myths and half-truths. (like, tv is free, other sites are free)
3) Dissing the whole idea of paying for something that used to be illegally stolen and free, then turned to legal and free and after all this time, the rightful owner has the balls to demand some remuneration for their rights/license/hard work.
4) Coming up with something I never said, shoving it down my throat and using it to prove me wrong.
Looking at your post above, let me list out how its constructed.
1 and 4/1/1 and 4/3 and 4 and im too tired to take apart the rest of your sentences.
Look up ignorantio elenchi and ad homiem then look back at your post. You are making classic discussion mistakes that prove that you are using your emotions to argue, not fact.
This aproach to the discussion is way below my bottom line. If you want to recieve any response from me, then please, try to eradicate this kind of arguments from your post, describe in detail the logic behind your reasoning, bring references to the sources and authoritets you can rely upon. Then and only then you will be qualified recieve my response. I simply learned that there is so much better things to do than arguing with people like you in a hard way.
Wish you luck in improving your rhetoric.
Fast pass works out better for me because the novels i read have longer chapters, but it must suck for people reading the short female lead chapters that are like half / a third of the male lead ones yet cost 1 fast pass all the same.
Fast pass works out better for me because the novels i read have longer chapters, but it must suck for people reading the short female lead chapters that are like half / a third of the male lead ones yet cost 1 fast pass all the same.
My takeaway from reading this wild ride of a thread, is that some free readers don't really care or understand how authors make a living from wasting precious time to write on Webnovel, as long as they're entertained.
Some free readers understand this but cannot - due to circumstances - support authors, so they try to do so in other ways (power stones, reviews, comments etc) which is actually fine for most authors because we love to see it. This group is disappointed that they'll be unable to read more, but are still willing to soldier on.
The paid readers are just reading this with utmost amusement.
And us Authors are conflicted. On one hand, we sympathize because we understand. On the other, this is (ideally) in our best interest.
I do believe this could've been implemented a bit better, but that is why Webnovel created a forum. You guys can share your suggestions and opinions so that they could make the system a lot more effective for both sides.
Throwing tantrums by saying you're leaving the app is not impressing anyone or helping in the least. Articulate yourself well, and you'd earn the respect of hundreds of lurkers who peek at this thread.
before the update, i have never had the app crash...
with the new update, it has crashed a few times now..
Its cost more to read novel than watch drama/movie.
nikitaagarwal
I also want to ask this. I even spent all of my SS/coins for the privy chapters for the month of January, which made me sad. It's like, I have them but I can't read BC fast pass can't unlock them.
WEBNOVEL_OFFICIAL please make it so that we can AT LEAST earn coins through daily activities. Right now the ONLY way to earn coins is by inviting a friend. I would rather have coins than the passes.
if you had at least something like 2ss per video people would watch you can have a limit ie 2 video per day per person and that way you make money from advertisement and people will get some ss for free. So that they can have more option to read books. Your giving away ss for you and would be making money like you are now doing with farming
quadri01 that's right..
MotivatedSloth Ahhh, must feel good to be able to show off by throwing around Latin terms and assuming you're the only one who understands. You like your really long essays and no one's keeping you away from making them. It's just that not everyone has the energy or the motivation to give you the argument you are so itching to have. I am simply making observations and laughing at you. At the end of the day, my point remains true. It will be something of a rude awakening when you realize that outside of a monopoly, people will only pay when they deem it is worth it for a product. I never said everything should be free, but Webnovel should have known it would be an uphill climb knowing how the whole community got started in the first place. I don't advocate anything, but you peeps expecting to be paid need to understand the market before insulting your consumers. Making assumptions about who or what I am will not help your cause.
You could let free users earn coins through ads. I mean everyone benefits from it, they make money and free users earn coins. Its funny how they compare Netflix to this site. Netflix is once a month payment, but you can watch unlimited movies without paying extra, so stop comparing them.
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Can u people just bring back Spirit stone i so don't like this fast pass thing and how can i earn coins btw?
Can someone tell me if the reading time rewards is coinor exp or what? I keep getting it but there's none reflected in my account?
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WEBNOVEL_OFFICIAL but I already lost 20 coins today... Then if what you said is true how come I loss my coins?
WEBNOVEL_OFFICIAL but I already lost 20 coins today... Then if what you said is true how come I loss my coins?
What is the benefit of webnovel membership????
What is the benefit of webnovel membership????
ace_cap
I'm sorry, but your post didn't comply with the minimal rhetorical requirements that I described in my previous reply, not giving you a right to my proper response.
Try to reforge your views and arguments into proper sentences according to the mini tutorial I gave you, then I might consider sparing some of my time to discuss with you.
I believe in you! You can do it! It's not so hard to be composed and calm while writing!
LotusWolf305
The amount of revenue brought by the ads is not nearly enough to pay down the costs of maintaining the site, paying the wages of the official employes nor the fair share for the authors.
I'm not giving exact numbers, CKTalon did it multiple times, but one add amounted to like 0.3ss of worth.
Reignnessmei
No, the past system of free ss was too generous and was changed to the current one. But we don't know what future might bring so just stay tuned and watch for the news from webnovel. We, the authors, are just as clueless about the future as everyone else.
They reward points that can be later on exchanged for various things at the store. This question was answered by Yueyi in a separate, big thread about complains. If you have any questions, I would recomend heading there.
Jeshmin
Bonus coins do expire 30 days after acquiring them, the ones you get from pucharse do so in 90 days I recall, but head to Yueyi posts for confirmation. Coins directly bought with money never expire. I guess the coints that expired were the bonus one you obtained about a month ago.
Lower price for the coins as long as you log in daily to get the daily rewards.
MotivatedSloth hahhh what a joke... Isn't it just unfair? They give it as a reward and then they take it in the of expires
MotivatedSloth hahhh what a joke... Isn't it just unfair? They give it as a reward and then they take it in the of expires
MotivatedSloth LOL. Good effort trying to sound above it all. A for effort. Oh wow. You schooled somebody? Cute
MotivatedSloth The fact that they could make revenue from free users should make them happy. What's better, giving free coins without any revenue or making revenue through ads from free users. I mean free users, not whales. Honestly, that just sounds like an excuse to me.
weli my sentiments too..i don't have work too.just relaying for free ss..aftér spending all my ss i have to stop reading this..please don't do this i'd been enjoying reading à ll the novels and now i have to stop reading because i can' afford buying...
MotivatedSloth I've been following up with you and @ace_cap conversation and I get why you're pained, you're an author but you also have to look at it from the angle of those who don't have the money or the means to keep up with the recent demands made by webnovel. I admit to being a part of the "freeloaders" but it isn't by choice as everyone wants to support their favorite author(s) if possible. Just calm down
Max255 i totally agree. I only get a few to open chapter. But in ss i can open many chapters in a day. I want the ss system.
WEBNOVEL_OFFICIAL the ss system was better than the fast pass system... Not pleased with the new upgrade... I have no more interest in reading webnovel now
the upgrade is so buggy. In ss i can open many chapters in a day. In fast pass i only get a few so my reading time reduces. Its really annoying plus the bonus videos doesnt load most of the time. I guess thats one of the bugs. I dont like it
ace_cap
Try again, maybe when I will get drunk some time in the future I could be bothered and bored enough to reply to your silly post. If you want any other response than from drunk me, you need to try harder.
Jeshmin
No. They are not giving it as a reward. Bonus coins always had an expiration date. Don't ask me why, thats how they worked so far and they just keep the system.
LotusWolf305
They are not giving any free coins at this moment, outside of the friend invite option as far as I recall from Yuei post. And no. The fact that you think you have the right to decide what should make them happy makes you another entilted person out in this kind of topics. You are not entilted to anything. While I understand your sentiments, you are only allowed to be happy that you are getting anything for free.
mayettenavarro
Guess what, authors can't afford to waste 4+h daily on writing for nothing either.
Veykey
Ah, as you might see from my recent posts, I managed to calm myself down. I'm not going to put up with their obnoxious attitude.
As for the problem at hand, I'm a free reader as well. Never bought a single coin, even though I can afford it. Do you know what I'm doing? I'm enjoying all the reading I can with free passess. Maybe if I will have enough free time on hand to read something else outside those few novels that I follow, I might consider buying. Thats how real life works.
As an author, I simply preffered to spedn 100$ on mechanical keyboard that will enable me to write even more with less pain, as speedwriting for 8 hours straight can get your hands quite a bit.
MotivatedSloth but that wasn't same before... Before this new system they never expired once
MotivatedSloth You keep replying though
WEBNOVEL_OFFICIAL why coins from reading did not add up to current coins? Where did it goes then?
WEBNOVEL_OFFICIAL why coins from reading did not add up to current coins? Where did it goes then?
Please revert back to spirit stones rewards.
You should ask some better versed in this, but I myself I'm sure that all the spirit stones that I got as a free user were expiring. It's just that I was using them faster than they could expire.
But as I said, it's better ask someone else on this point. I can only say from the limited perspective of someone who was here for like two years in total. (If you can check exactly when did RtW migrate here, you can get the exact date when I joined)