JKaiya ...so what exactly are you complaining about? If you want to write, write. If not, then don't. From what I've read, you seem to be saying, "I don't want to sign a contract, but if I don't, I will not be eligible for the prize money. And if I can't get any prize money, it's a waste of time. If they want me to participate, they must give me the prize money unconditionally."

Also, if you sell your book on Amazon, you have to sign a contract with Amazon. You don't give up the rights to your work, and you make more because I think you have almost 100% comission from selling on Amazon (unlike Webnovel's 50%), but you still have to sign a contract with them. And I believe they still earn a percentage off your work and you are subject to their terms and conditions (such as if you plagiarize something, they reserve the right to remove your product off their site and blacklist you). It's a better contract, no doubt, but it still has restrictions.

The point is that, there is no such thing as a free lunch in this world. Why would Webnovel so generously give away $10,000 if they don't stand to benefit from it?

      Tomoyuki The event thingy showed up like an hour after I made the post, but ty for showing it, I read from my phone the last time so I didn't notice the chat with service thing before (idk if it does appear on phone at least not a button on bottom right) and I got an answer finally.

          JKaiya
          I'm not really understanding what your problems are with the contest.
          Are you saying that it's unfair to ESL people? Or is it that the grand prize is not enough money? Or that the contract is unfair?
          If you think of the grand prize as an advance... that's more than the 1k examples you used in your post. Plus with all the exposure... you'd be making more than $200 a month. So the final issue is that the contract is unfair? Maybe longer term? But from what I understand, its more like: if you don't uphold your end of the agreement (uploading however many words a day), WN just doesn't pay you.
          I mean.. after six months of writing a story, one should have enough chapter's stockpiled to meet that goal?
          Could you clarify the problems you're having? Why are you thinking it's unfair?

              Tomoyuki Idk if you read everything... but again I'm okay with selling it for like the better prices. Also Amazon ebook is 35% for non exclusive and 70% for exclusive while having a download rate bill which is like 20 cents, and prints are little off but for black and white .85 + .012 for every page (if book is 118pages+), there's a much huger customer base and if not exclusive you have even huger customer base as barnes&nobles etc... so although you lose some, you make a lot more. Though again typical author WN is way better except copyright. ALSO note that some of the stuff might be wrong as I am just basing this on all the complaints authors put about the contract in forums like it feels like every week to two some1 makes a post about it? Like when I talked to the customer service guy he made the copyright sound a lot less worse than what people posted on forums, but its a business so might just be a tactic idk. But, basically I'm just iffy the normal one as based on what I know I could be making more if I went another route, but I'm greedy af so I'm lusting for the prizes as that stuff is what publishers would offer too like 1k-15k on average, though for publishers its advancements. I also got zero fans and even with shoutouts from those people I know it's still chance on only making like 100-1k for my first book because of zero followers.

                  RABBITICOL sry I'm a gamer so I was arguing, I posted it at the top of the forum though

                      JKaiya As far as I am aware, you don't need to be exclusive for the 70% contract. You just need to price the book at 2.99 or more. The 70% contract on Amazon has the space charges for every sale while the 35% doesn't have any. The exclusive contract is for their Kindle program. Again, I might be wrong, but that's what it appeared to me when I checked it around half a month ago.

                          Lilliny I made a post after you posted to the other guy, but anyways no i'm fine with prizes. I'm just basing the idea of I have of the slave contract based on like what people post on forums like every 1-2 weeks SO IT MIGHT BE WRONG but based on that stuff they make it seem really horrible. Like losing copyright. Also 200$ per month with all the conditions, again based on what people posted and I remember, is pretty bad compared to just going directly to self publishing. However, again there are good cases, you can read other post if you want to know, really dont want to type again... But I'd be fine with the contract for some novels if I didn't lose the copyright, but again just read the other post, I dont want to type everything again =-==========

                              RABBITICOL 70% is only available if your ebook is 20% cheaper than print book and ebook price is between 2.99-9.99 idk if tax is included, I think 35% is for the rest though. Also I think KDP Select is the 70% one where you also get benefits like how WN does it with features and ads. As for space charges, I honestly don't know what that means so can't comment on that, of course there's more advanced stuff like just how its charged net profit etc. I'm just a student though so never actually made a book yet, this is just what I know from research and what the 10ish author friends told me in real life

                                  JKaiya Just take note that most of the information regarding the "slave contract" is posted by people who don't actually have contracts, so best to take them with a grain of salt.

                                    Lilliny @Tomoyuki
                                    I reread the Q when I was editing it to put answer and I saw I misworded a sentence on this forum post so sry about that. I wrote it when I just woke up though so I didn't notice or bother rereading it, so that might've been why you lashed at me, or maybe just toxic

                                        JKaiya Just on the side note - the 200$ you speak about, is not even a part of the contract. Is just a helping hand that WN extends for starting authors, so that they can make any money at the beginning, while learning the proper way of working around WN standards, that will be beneficial to them anyway. I just finished my MGS (400$ one) but I already reached the point when I will most likely earn more than that, despite my book being trash. With one more novel getting a contract right now and 3rd one I will be writing for spirity, I might earn way more than said 200$, as long as people read my novel. So it's not like WN contract allows you to earn 200$ tops, but that's just a starting point.

                                            May I ask how will you participate in the contest? I read the rules and it said you most be contracted and the main plot falls on the category. If you both meet these requirements, how will you apply? Or they (editors in WN) will randomly choose the authors ?

                                              Avalondra You join it just like you Join a WPC, by creating a new book. As for being contracted, they should offer it to you if your book is up to their standard. You can chat with the Editors for more information on the Spirity Awards page. It's in the lower-right corner.

                                                JKaiya Contract doesn't guarantee you ANY money. The one thing that is certain, that if you earn less than 200$ in a month, it will be held back for as long as you need to gather more than 200$, because doing transfer for less than that incurs additional charges. In contract, you only earn 50% of the profit that your novel brings to the company, from all the sources being: unlocking the chapter with paid coins, unlocking privilege with paid coins or gifting with paid coins. All other sorts of unlocking (with bonus coins or fast passes) is worthless.

                                                I said 300$ because that's about how much my first story earns a month so far, and how much I expect it to make this month (maybe less, maybe more, maybe babe I don't know) , but with one novel getting contracted as we speak and going premium somewhen in May, I can only expect my income to grow.

                                                MGS - minimum guarantee system is just an additional program that rewards you with a set amount of money if you:
                                                1. Earn less than it offers from all your sources of income (if you have 2 novels, one old and earning 250$ and the new one on MGS earning 10$, you won't get 450$ but 260$)
                                                2. Fulfil the requirements to be edible for mgs (1500 words or more published EVERY SINGLE DAY during the entire month)

                                                But MGS by itself is not a part of the contract. Just a nod from WN to authors aimed at helping them create certain patterns of work, while subsidising their income in the early stage of the growth.

                                                As for my novels, they are:
                                                "While others cultivate......." - Culitvationsque novel about a guy reincarnated in a cultivation world. Started as amalgation of all the cliches I could think off in order to make fun of them, but as my innate preference took over, it transformed into not-so-typical cultivation/adventure story, with world actually way deeper than simple cultivation, taking turn towards universal magic
                                                "Road to the Crown" - my second novel, currently in the process of contracting, about a modern white-collar worker loving strategy PC games, transported to a body of a noble in 1574, during the coronation ceremony of the first Polish King that got elected by the nobility, its typical kingdom building slash historical story, mixing those two aspects to take you to a fun ride while showcasing some of the aspects of the complicated past of the commonwealth of Poland and Lithuania.
                                                "Last Fate Legionary" - I can't really say anything about it yet, as its still unpublished an in process of writing early chapters, but its my first attempt at writing story in 3rd person narration after "Blood Coin" failure, aimed at dark fantasy genre in the medievalistic world full of magic with deep worldbuilding. Those who had the chance to read the first chapter pointed out that its more like a normal (amazon like) novel rather than typical WN story, but since I treat it as sort of my masterpiece made off all the shelved ideas I had so far, written with the ability I polished during the half of year I spent writing my current novels.

                                                Avalondra All novels taking part in Spirity awards needs to be completely new novels. You can join only during the process of creating the novel, and it needs to be invited for a contract in order to even compete. (and yes, you need to sign it too)

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