Dear compassion and empathy, I know you are resting in peace but could you two please end your resting time and come back here? This world is so terribly lacking you two.
A sincere request. 
Constructive criticism good or bad
Mamelunka Unnoticed flops that check their chapters 4 times before posting it and would die for a honest feedback from the reader. Readers won't complain.
They instead will be too busy messing with author 1 and 2 and ignore author 3 like everybody does.
Sigh. Truth has been spoken.
DaoistfedHmm WN has no DM/private message system
LostInFictions That is the issue here, your words are based on your feelings and are not logical. I hate to break it to you but the world doesn't care about your feelings, it operates on logic. It would be great if the world cared about your feelings I agree with you there, but it doesn't so you need to adapt. I will stop here because while I don't mind debating opinions, I don't want to discuss this with someone who thinks their emotions are valid reasoning.
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FunnyBuns To me, your reasoning is invalid. To you, mine is. It's just the way one thinks I guess and you are right, it's more about emotions when I am talking but I don't think hurting people is logical either. Well, anyways, it was good to hear your perspective. : )
Logic and feelings are derived from the same source - a sense of ethics. Though that may differ a bit from place to place, often both come hand in hand.
And just because you say that the world works based on logic, it doesn't mean that you automatically have the higher morale ground as you have implied.
And logic here seems to question how you have come to the conclusion that LostinFictions was trying to silence you. All that was said was that 'one should not continue to escalate the situation by spamming'. Because, no matter how valid you make yourself out to be, the act of escalating a situation will likely lead to your loss in a court.
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kazesenken When did I ever say she was trying to silence me? I just said I don't understand people like her who think they have a right to silence people and I hope I never do.
Also the one who escalated it is the one who decided to delete it. If it is deleted and someone reposts it just ignore it. Reposting something you feel was deleted and for an unjustified reason is a reasonable act and deleting it a second time is just provoking the person to repost it a third time and beyond. So if that is the case the author would lose because they provoked the reaction, unless of course the person is a troll.
I will tell something. Review doesn't matter that much. Why? See this book, "Genius System Without Equal". See the overall rating, around 2-3 stars right? Now look closely, not at the powerstone, but at the number of people that supporting that book. That tab is showing how many people actually paying for that book. 1k something paying for a book that is rated 2 stars?
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"I just said I don't understand people like her who think they have a right to silence people and I hope I never do."
THIS^
This statement from you just flat out says that you think that she is trying to silence people (like you). You might have interpreted the "you" as you personally, but I mean "you all, in general". But when did she say that she wanted to silence you?
Her original statement:
"That's your right but do not post them again and again if he deletes it because the way commenting is your right, deleting comes under his."
- which means, you both have the right to post, but posting it over and over when someone is allowed to delete is not right.
Why do you think that the author deleting the comment a 2nd time is the escalator? The author owns the work. He/She has the right to have whatever displayed on their own work, regardless of what a reader thinks. If it violates WN's guidelines then they will do something about it.
Taking your logic, then it would be ok to:
- Write whatever slander you feel like on a person's house, just because "you" feel that it's justified.
In reality:
- "You" would be arrested for vandalism and sued in court. It does not matter how "true" you think the statement is, because "you" are the escalator. The question of the poster being a troll does not even need to come up.
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FunnyBuns LostInFictions does NOT think she has a right to silence people. Stop putting words in her mouth. Or do you have a problem with your reading comprehension?
If you continually repost despite the author deleting your comment or review, you are harassing the author. You are committing stalker-ish behavior. This is illegal. I already explained it to you above, but you seem to have ignored me so that you can cherry-pick and interpret LostInFiction's post however you want. It doesn't matter if you think it's unjustified, you do not have the right to harass people. You are not being silenced, and if you are "provoked" into reposting, you are stalking someone online and harassing him/her. Period.
What, if a girl hangs up on you because you called her, are you going to keep calling her a second time, a third time, and more? Because she has no right to "silence" you? Because by hanging up, she "provoked" you into calling her again and again? What kind of logic is that? You'll get arrested for stalking and harassing her. Or at the very least, she will receive a protection order from you. Don't misunderstand "freedom of speech" - it doesn't mean nobody can silence you or you can say whatever you want. If you say whatever you want, you have to face the consequences - freedom of speech doesn't save you from getting punched if you slander somebody in public. It certainly doesn't protect you from getting your comment or review deleted if the author is unhappy with what you said. It doesn't matter if you think it's unjustified, the fact of the matter is that you do not harass people just to...I don't know, because you are under some delusion that you have every right to free speech and you shouldn't be "silenced."
Authors have the right to be protected from harassment. If it comes at the expense of "silencing," then so be it. Except that you are not being silenced. You already said your piece. You let the author know how you felt. So why are you so adamant on reposting your opinion over and over again? What are you trying to achieve through harassing the author?
kazesenken I can only roll my eyes and stop here. If you truly think the two equate then it would be a waste of everyone's time and my sanity to try and convince you the fact that you are wrong.
For the second part holy shit. You would actually compare criticism in a review to slander and vandalism? You have serious issues if you think the two can be compared.
BTW the author owns the work sure, but they don't own the webpage it is hosted on, it doesn't matter what the author thinks belongs on there if webnovel thinks it nothing is wrong with it being there than it is okay to be there. The fact that webnovel lets you repost it means it is okay to be there. They have the right to decide they don't want it to be there, but unfortunately, they don't have the right to decide if it belongs there, when deciding to post here they agreed to webnovels terms, not webnovel agreeing to their terms and if you truly think they do have the right to decide after my explanation than you are a lost cause. Ultimately if webnovel deems it doesn't belong there it doesn't, but the author has no right to say that a review can't be there, only that they don't want it there. I also feel I should mention that only applies to non-contracted works. When you sign a contract with webnovel they own the work and they can replace the author. In reality that is true with just about any work, a perfect example is Star Wars, George Lukas said what they wanted for the third trilogy is not what his creation is about and he refused to direct it, so Disney which owns the rights replaced him, and webnovel which own the contracted series can replace the current author.
Finally, it really depends on where you live. Where I live at least, I could actually be the one to sue the author for deleting my review as it is a violation of my freedom of speech, if the author sued he'd just be laughed at in secret due to thinking they can sue someone for exercising their rights while attempting to deny someone their rights.
People like you seem to be under the delusion that the author is always in the right. And I totally wasted my time on you so I need to go contemplate why I'm trying to explain simple things to morons.
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FunnyBuns Finally, it really depends on where you live. Where I live at least, I could actually be the one to sue the author for deleting my review as it is a violation of my freedom of speech, if the author sued he'd just be laughed at in secret due to thinking they can sue someone for exercising their rights while attempting to deny someone their rights.
You have no idea what freedom of speech is. Go ahead and try it. You will get laughed out of court. I can guarantee you that.
Freedom of speech only protects you from being silenced by political organizations. Try that against an individual (like an author) or a private corporation like Webnovel, and you will get thrown out of court. Also, you will get counter-sued for harassment and you will be liable to pay for damages.
The First Amendment's freedom of speech right not only proscribes most government restrictions on the content of speech and ability to speak, but also protects the right to receive information, prohibits most government restrictions or burdens that discriminate between speakers, restricts the tort liability of individuals for certain speech, and prevents the government from requiring individuals and corporations to speak or finance certain types of speech with which they do not agree
If you don't have an understanding of how "freedom of speech" works legally, please don't talk nonsense. You are only making a fool out of yourself.
Tomoyuki Damn, why do you think I'm putting words in her mouth exactly? I'm totally not so I'd at least like to know where you got that misunderstanding?
I didn't see your reply, but honestly both sides are committing harassment, one side doesn't desire for their comment to be deleted and constantly deleting it is committing harassment. The legal definition of harassment is :the act of systematic and/or continued unwanted and annoying actions of one party or a group. So ultimately the one deleting the review is committing harassment if the one reposting the review is committing harassment.
By the way, I know the case you were talking about, but what you said is totally out of context, so I recommend you at least give context as it is not nearly as bad as you make it seem with your words. BTW what you are talking about was blown completely out of proportion by the author and he left out details while adding lies to make himself look like a victim. You weren't in the discord so you wouldn't know the whole truth behind it so you can't be blamed for that.
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FunnyBuns Because LostInFictions NEVER said anything about silencing? When did she ever said "authors have the right to silence people"? Hint: she never said that.
She only said that it's pointless to repost if the author delete your comment and advises you to leave it at that. She explains that there are reasons why the author might have deleted your review or comment, and suggests that you have some sympathy and leave them alone instead of pursuing the matter. That's all she said. Where did she ever say anything about "silencing"?
FunnyBuns the one deleting the review is committing harassment if the one reposting the review is committing harassment.
This makes no sense whatsoever. It is within the rights of an author to delete a review (whether it's justified or not, that's not for you to decide). It is NOT within the rights of a reader or whoever to repost the same review over and over again because that is
FunnyBuns continued unwanted and annoying actions of one party
The author only deletes it once. On the other hand, you have to continually post and repost the comment or review to elicit a continued deletion. You can't "continually" delete something if the other party doesn't continually post it first.
Again, if a girl is not interested in receiving your call, that doesn't mean she is harassing you if she hangs up on you. If the author has deleted your review once, or even twice, he or she is not harassing you. You, on the other hand, are harassing him/her. If you don't believe me, go consult a lawyer. He will tell you the exact same things as me.
I don't know what happened or the whole truth, fair enough, but you have to be really delusional to justify reposting the same review/comment over a hundred times, copy/pasting the same comment in every single chapter as "freedom of speech." I sympathize with the guy, but that does not justify harassment.
And thus, you have devolved into nothing more than an emotion outburst. Logic goes out the door once you start accusing and demeaning others of things.
What happened to logic? I guess no one cares about what you think then, as you claimed yourself? Good job in contradicting your own arguments.
It's very clear that you have no idea how to debate properly, so good luck trying to sue someone. If that's how you roll, then I'd take you on in court any day.
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Tomoyuki She didn't say those exact words, but she implied it. I never once said she said words like that, I merely stated she was that kind of person which can be seen by her statements. If someone has never said I'm racist but goes around treating other people like they are inferior for being a certain race are they really not racist? She doesn't have to outright say I support silencing people for you to understand she supports it. So please from now on quit with the bullcrap that I put words in her mouth.
Man I don't get what is so hard to understand about if it is reposted you can just leave it, yes the cycle can be stopped by not reposting, but it can also be stopped by not deleting, both parties are playing an active part in the continuation making both parties at fault.
It is completely within the readers right to repost it. Ultimately you are only looking at it from one perspective and are blinded by that, you have to realize that the author can stop the cycle by not deleting it a second time(or more). When either party can stop the cycle and neither party wants to both are at fault. I'm really not sure what is so hard to understand that if it is posted a second time than the author can just leave it. Yes I don't deny that it can be stopped by not posting a second time, but you have to understand it can be stopped by not deleting a second time, and ultimately someone has the right to repost it, I wish you would stop being stubborn.
Ultimately a reader has a right to repost it, until you can accept such a simple fact there is no point in continuing. A reader doesn't have a right to spam as that can be harassment depending on the circumstances, but it isn't spam if it is just a contest between reader and author to see who gives in first on one damn review. Sure I called it spamming, but that is because there isn't exactly a better term I can think of. If you can think of a better term for reposting something constantly than I ask you tell me it. By definition it could be spam, but that would be because there is no proper word for it as definitions don't take context into account.
Though honestly I will stop replying here has we have completely derailed from the original post.
FunnyBuns You're debating with authors. I can understand that. Don't worry though, I take a neutral stance on this one.
FunnyBuns She didn't say those exact words, but she implied it. I never once said she said words like that, I merely stated she was that kind of person which can be seen by her statements.
She implied NOTHING of that sort. I explained to you what she meant. Perhaps you might want to pull your head out of your arse and consider that you are the one going around misinterpreting what others have said? Given how you have so totally misinterpreted the First Amendment's Freedom of Speech, I am not surprised.
FunnyBuns So please from now on quit with the bullcrap that I put words in her mouth.
You should quit with the bullcrap of accusing people of implying something that she did not said.
Again, because it seems that you simply refuse to understand what LostInFictions said, let me explain what she said. She did not imply that she supports silence people. She said that readers should understand that authors sometimes have reasons to delete comments and reviews, and if that happens, instead of pursuing it because of some pigheaded notion that you are being "silenced" or your "freedom of speech" is being threatened, you should leave it at that because it's pointless to repost. You said your piece, the writer has decided that he or she doesn't want to hear it. So what's the point of reposting, other than forcing your opinion on the writer?
This is already explained by LostInFictions earlier, but you are so wrapped up by the whole silencing nonsense that you failed to remember it, or you just refused to understand it. The writer could be depressed, or he or she doesn't like the negativity, or he/she doesn't agree with the opinion, so he/she removed it. Is he/she right in doing so? Maybe, maybe not. Does it matter? But the moment you start spamming and reposting, you are basically forcing your opinion on other people. I already brought up the analogy earlier - if a girl wants you to stop calling her, STOP CALLING HER! Are you going to force her to take your calls even though she doesn't want to talk to you?
There are also other reasons why the author may want to remove your review. It might be pullng down his or her overall rating. You reposting it with 3.5 stars will keep pulling down the rating. Is it dishonest? Of course it is. Do I agree with such actions? No. But what are you achieving by reposting the review over and over again? At that point, it becomes harassment and not a stand for honesty. If the author wants to be dishonest, then, quite frankly, there is very little you can do about it. Perhaps talk about it in the forums or in Discord, but spamming the same review over and over again is NOT the solution.
The author might disagree with your "constructive criticisms", might think you are making false assumptions about the work, or that you depicted the story inaccurately. For example, some guy coming in and whining about a story having toxic relationships, even though the author himself does not think there is any toxic relationship in the story. Of course he would delete it because he feels it is an inaccurate review of his story. Are you claiming that you have the right to repost a hundred times and pretend that it's within your freedom of speech and it's not harassment? That's just nonsense.
FunnyBuns I wish you would stop being stubborn.
I wish YOU would stop being so stubborn.
FunnyBuns A reader doesn't have a right to spam as that can be harassment depending on the circumstances
Reposting the same thing over and over again IS harassment. Calling a girl again and again even though she hangs up on you every single time IS harassment. It's the same principle. Until you can accept such a simple fact, there is no point in continuing.
MaxwellKHA You're debating with authors.
I am not an author.