FunnyBuns LostInFictions does NOT think she has a right to silence people. Stop putting words in her mouth. Or do you have a problem with your reading comprehension?

If you continually repost despite the author deleting your comment or review, you are harassing the author. You are committing stalker-ish behavior. This is illegal. I already explained it to you above, but you seem to have ignored me so that you can cherry-pick and interpret LostInFiction's post however you want. It doesn't matter if you think it's unjustified, you do not have the right to harass people. You are not being silenced, and if you are "provoked" into reposting, you are stalking someone online and harassing him/her. Period.

What, if a girl hangs up on you because you called her, are you going to keep calling her a second time, a third time, and more? Because she has no right to "silence" you? Because by hanging up, she "provoked" you into calling her again and again? What kind of logic is that? You'll get arrested for stalking and harassing her. Or at the very least, she will receive a protection order from you. Don't misunderstand "freedom of speech" - it doesn't mean nobody can silence you or you can say whatever you want. If you say whatever you want, you have to face the consequences - freedom of speech doesn't save you from getting punched if you slander somebody in public. It certainly doesn't protect you from getting your comment or review deleted if the author is unhappy with what you said. It doesn't matter if you think it's unjustified, the fact of the matter is that you do not harass people just to...I don't know, because you are under some delusion that you have every right to free speech and you shouldn't be "silenced."

Authors have the right to be protected from harassment. If it comes at the expense of "silencing," then so be it. Except that you are not being silenced. You already said your piece. You let the author know how you felt. So why are you so adamant on reposting your opinion over and over again? What are you trying to achieve through harassing the author?

      kazesenken I can only roll my eyes and stop here. If you truly think the two equate then it would be a waste of everyone's time and my sanity to try and convince you the fact that you are wrong.

      For the second part holy shit. You would actually compare criticism in a review to slander and vandalism? You have serious issues if you think the two can be compared.

      BTW the author owns the work sure, but they don't own the webpage it is hosted on, it doesn't matter what the author thinks belongs on there if webnovel thinks it nothing is wrong with it being there than it is okay to be there. The fact that webnovel lets you repost it means it is okay to be there. They have the right to decide they don't want it to be there, but unfortunately, they don't have the right to decide if it belongs there, when deciding to post here they agreed to webnovels terms, not webnovel agreeing to their terms and if you truly think they do have the right to decide after my explanation than you are a lost cause. Ultimately if webnovel deems it doesn't belong there it doesn't, but the author has no right to say that a review can't be there, only that they don't want it there. I also feel I should mention that only applies to non-contracted works. When you sign a contract with webnovel they own the work and they can replace the author. In reality that is true with just about any work, a perfect example is Star Wars, George Lukas said what they wanted for the third trilogy is not what his creation is about and he refused to direct it, so Disney which owns the rights replaced him, and webnovel which own the contracted series can replace the current author.

      Finally, it really depends on where you live. Where I live at least, I could actually be the one to sue the author for deleting my review as it is a violation of my freedom of speech, if the author sued he'd just be laughed at in secret due to thinking they can sue someone for exercising their rights while attempting to deny someone their rights.

      People like you seem to be under the delusion that the author is always in the right. And I totally wasted my time on you so I need to go contemplate why I'm trying to explain simple things to morons.

          FunnyBuns

          FunnyBuns Finally, it really depends on where you live. Where I live at least, I could actually be the one to sue the author for deleting my review as it is a violation of my freedom of speech, if the author sued he'd just be laughed at in secret due to thinking they can sue someone for exercising their rights while attempting to deny someone their rights.

          You have no idea what freedom of speech is. Go ahead and try it. You will get laughed out of court. I can guarantee you that.

          Freedom of speech only protects you from being silenced by political organizations. Try that against an individual (like an author) or a private corporation like Webnovel, and you will get thrown out of court. Also, you will get counter-sued for harassment and you will be liable to pay for damages.

          The First Amendment's freedom of speech right not only proscribes most government restrictions on the content of speech and ability to speak, but also protects the right to receive information, prohibits most government restrictions or burdens that discriminate between speakers, restricts the tort liability of individuals for certain speech, and prevents the government from requiring individuals and corporations to speak or finance certain types of speech with which they do not agree

          If you don't have an understanding of how "freedom of speech" works legally, please don't talk nonsense. You are only making a fool out of yourself.

              Tomoyuki Damn, why do you think I'm putting words in her mouth exactly? I'm totally not so I'd at least like to know where you got that misunderstanding?

              I didn't see your reply, but honestly both sides are committing harassment, one side doesn't desire for their comment to be deleted and constantly deleting it is committing harassment. The legal definition of harassment is :the act of systematic and/or continued unwanted and annoying actions of one party or a group. So ultimately the one deleting the review is committing harassment if the one reposting the review is committing harassment.

              By the way, I know the case you were talking about, but what you said is totally out of context, so I recommend you at least give context as it is not nearly as bad as you make it seem with your words. BTW what you are talking about was blown completely out of proportion by the author and he left out details while adding lies to make himself look like a victim. You weren't in the discord so you wouldn't know the whole truth behind it so you can't be blamed for that.

                  FunnyBuns Because LostInFictions NEVER said anything about silencing? When did she ever said "authors have the right to silence people"? Hint: she never said that.

                  She only said that it's pointless to repost if the author delete your comment and advises you to leave it at that. She explains that there are reasons why the author might have deleted your review or comment, and suggests that you have some sympathy and leave them alone instead of pursuing the matter. That's all she said. Where did she ever say anything about "silencing"?

                  FunnyBuns the one deleting the review is committing harassment if the one reposting the review is committing harassment.

                  This makes no sense whatsoever. It is within the rights of an author to delete a review (whether it's justified or not, that's not for you to decide). It is NOT within the rights of a reader or whoever to repost the same review over and over again because that is

                  FunnyBuns continued unwanted and annoying actions of one party

                  The author only deletes it once. On the other hand, you have to continually post and repost the comment or review to elicit a continued deletion. You can't "continually" delete something if the other party doesn't continually post it first.

                  Again, if a girl is not interested in receiving your call, that doesn't mean she is harassing you if she hangs up on you. If the author has deleted your review once, or even twice, he or she is not harassing you. You, on the other hand, are harassing him/her. If you don't believe me, go consult a lawyer. He will tell you the exact same things as me.

                  I don't know what happened or the whole truth, fair enough, but you have to be really delusional to justify reposting the same review/comment over a hundred times, copy/pasting the same comment in every single chapter as "freedom of speech." I sympathize with the guy, but that does not justify harassment.

                          FunnyBuns

                          And thus, you have devolved into nothing more than an emotion outburst. Logic goes out the door once you start accusing and demeaning others of things.
                          What happened to logic? I guess no one cares about what you think then, as you claimed yourself? Good job in contradicting your own arguments.
                          It's very clear that you have no idea how to debate properly, so good luck trying to sue someone. If that's how you roll, then I'd take you on in court any day.

                            Tomoyuki She didn't say those exact words, but she implied it. I never once said she said words like that, I merely stated she was that kind of person which can be seen by her statements. If someone has never said I'm racist but goes around treating other people like they are inferior for being a certain race are they really not racist? She doesn't have to outright say I support silencing people for you to understand she supports it. So please from now on quit with the bullcrap that I put words in her mouth.

                            Man I don't get what is so hard to understand about if it is reposted you can just leave it, yes the cycle can be stopped by not reposting, but it can also be stopped by not deleting, both parties are playing an active part in the continuation making both parties at fault.

                            It is completely within the readers right to repost it. Ultimately you are only looking at it from one perspective and are blinded by that, you have to realize that the author can stop the cycle by not deleting it a second time(or more). When either party can stop the cycle and neither party wants to both are at fault. I'm really not sure what is so hard to understand that if it is posted a second time than the author can just leave it. Yes I don't deny that it can be stopped by not posting a second time, but you have to understand it can be stopped by not deleting a second time, and ultimately someone has the right to repost it, I wish you would stop being stubborn.

                            Ultimately a reader has a right to repost it, until you can accept such a simple fact there is no point in continuing. A reader doesn't have a right to spam as that can be harassment depending on the circumstances, but it isn't spam if it is just a contest between reader and author to see who gives in first on one damn review. Sure I called it spamming, but that is because there isn't exactly a better term I can think of. If you can think of a better term for reposting something constantly than I ask you tell me it. By definition it could be spam, but that would be because there is no proper word for it as definitions don't take context into account.

                                Though honestly I will stop replying here has we have completely derailed from the original post.

                                  FunnyBuns She didn't say those exact words, but she implied it. I never once said she said words like that, I merely stated she was that kind of person which can be seen by her statements.

                                  She implied NOTHING of that sort. I explained to you what she meant. Perhaps you might want to pull your head out of your arse and consider that you are the one going around misinterpreting what others have said? Given how you have so totally misinterpreted the First Amendment's Freedom of Speech, I am not surprised.

                                  FunnyBuns So please from now on quit with the bullcrap that I put words in her mouth.

                                  You should quit with the bullcrap of accusing people of implying something that she did not said.

                                  Again, because it seems that you simply refuse to understand what LostInFictions said, let me explain what she said. She did not imply that she supports silence people. She said that readers should understand that authors sometimes have reasons to delete comments and reviews, and if that happens, instead of pursuing it because of some pigheaded notion that you are being "silenced" or your "freedom of speech" is being threatened, you should leave it at that because it's pointless to repost. You said your piece, the writer has decided that he or she doesn't want to hear it. So what's the point of reposting, other than forcing your opinion on the writer?

                                  FunnyBuns Man I don't get what is so hard to understand about if it is reposted you can just leave it

                                  FunnyBuns I'm really not sure what is so hard to understand that if it is posted a second time than the author can just leave it.

                                  This is already explained by LostInFictions earlier, but you are so wrapped up by the whole silencing nonsense that you failed to remember it, or you just refused to understand it. The writer could be depressed, or he or she doesn't like the negativity, or he/she doesn't agree with the opinion, so he/she removed it. Is he/she right in doing so? Maybe, maybe not. Does it matter? But the moment you start spamming and reposting, you are basically forcing your opinion on other people. I already brought up the analogy earlier - if a girl wants you to stop calling her, STOP CALLING HER! Are you going to force her to take your calls even though she doesn't want to talk to you?

                                  There are also other reasons why the author may want to remove your review. It might be pullng down his or her overall rating. You reposting it with 3.5 stars will keep pulling down the rating. Is it dishonest? Of course it is. Do I agree with such actions? No. But what are you achieving by reposting the review over and over again? At that point, it becomes harassment and not a stand for honesty. If the author wants to be dishonest, then, quite frankly, there is very little you can do about it. Perhaps talk about it in the forums or in Discord, but spamming the same review over and over again is NOT the solution.

                                  The author might disagree with your "constructive criticisms", might think you are making false assumptions about the work, or that you depicted the story inaccurately. For example, some guy coming in and whining about a story having toxic relationships, even though the author himself does not think there is any toxic relationship in the story. Of course he would delete it because he feels it is an inaccurate review of his story. Are you claiming that you have the right to repost a hundred times and pretend that it's within your freedom of speech and it's not harassment? That's just nonsense.

                                  FunnyBuns I wish you would stop being stubborn.

                                  I wish YOU would stop being so stubborn.

                                  FunnyBuns A reader doesn't have a right to spam as that can be harassment depending on the circumstances

                                  Reposting the same thing over and over again IS harassment. Calling a girl again and again even though she hangs up on you every single time IS harassment. It's the same principle. Until you can accept such a simple fact, there is no point in continuing.

                                  MaxwellKHA You're debating with authors.

                                  I am not an author.

                                                Tomoyuki lol, if you are going to act a kid who calls someone stupid for calling them stupid at least know what the terms you are throwing back at the person actually means.

                                                    FunnyBuns As an author myself ,I delete reviews, why? Because I'm concerned about what my book will become. Look, maybe one reader seems to be a little number, but trust me. When you remove that book from the library, we know that.

                                                    Reviews is one of the tools that we use to gain readers. It's not a surprise if author deletes a one star review, well, I will do the same thing too.

                                                    Tbh, I understand your feelings when you're writing a 1000 words review only it to be deleted by the author. Why? I feel the same too because I used to doing so. It's not justified, but I understand why they do that.

                                                        FunnyBuns So why aren't you looking at it from the perspective of an author and understanding that it is harassment?

                                                        I'm a reader. I have read a lot of stories on this site. If people delete my review, what do I do? I drop the story. There is no point in continuing reading the story. What do I achieve from reposting my review, other than me harassing the author? Nothing. Why should I care? I said my piece. I know the author has read my review. If he/she doesn't accept my criticisms, that's his/her problem. What right do I have to force my opinion or criticisms on him/her? If he/she doesn't want to listen, that's his/her prerogative. I drop the story, move on and read some other story I like more, or support some other author. Why would I waste my time harassing this author who doesn't want to listen to me? What exactly do I achieve by reposting the review/comment over and over again other than irritating the s out of him/her?

                                                        You laugh at me for not knowing terms, yet you're the same guy who misinterpreted the First Amendment and freedom of speech clause, and stubbornly insists on misinterpreting other people's posts by pretending that LostInFictions implied something that she did not. And then you call other people stubborn even though I explained to you what she meant and that you read it all wrong. I wonder who's the kid?

                                                            Tomoyuki Yes you are. And a contracted one too. You're better than the other author in here in terms of status.

                                                                FunnyBuns I write stories of terrible quality. That does not give me the right to call myself an author. Just look at the 2.9 rating for my story.

                                                                Most readers have advised me to quit writing, and they tell me I should never be an author, that I should give up and stop polluting the site with my rubbish. Must be great to have all that freedom of speech, eh?

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