MotivatedSloth Meanwhile in China you can buy 100-200 chapters just for $1 (USD). And the real literature (like HP) is still cheaper than this online sh*t.
is there a buy this whole option
Dwarkin Meanwhile in china you have fixtiliard bigger market for online reading, one that's completely monopolised by Quidian (over 90% of the market is in their hands), where Quidian doesn't need to pay apple/windows as huge provision for every in-app sale (cuz they have their own OS), Qi is FAR FAR FAR older in china than WN is internationally.
But I know that taking those tiny, nitpicky details into account is not to your taste. I get it. Sadly, they are actually explaining the entire situation to anyone who ever bothered to think about them.
HP is not a real literature. Its a published, traditional writing. But that's entirely other point. And yes, HP is cheaper. Because its an old as fuq novel. Most of the novels on WN are ongoing. Just like you won't be able to buy avengers endgame blueray version for 90% off in the wallmart or other 7eleven 2 days after its premiere, expecting that the same would happen to novels is just insane. Or stupid. Or naive. Pick one.
MotivatedSloth 16 000 coins means around 3 200 000 words. Normal novels range from 80-100k words per volume on average. That means, there is between 32 and 40 volumes worth of reading. I'm sorry, I don't think you can find such a long series with each VOLUME costing 1.25-1.5$
Sorry MotivatedSloth, but your claim and your figures are just flat out wrong, and you should know that by now. I've even given you a concrete example (I Shall Seal the Heavens) of a slightly longer WebNovel novel that is available on Amazon for $45 (9 volumes, 1200 pages/volume, $5/volume).
You're destroying your case by giving such badly incorrect information.
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MotivatedSloth Meanwhile in china you have fixtiliard bigger market for online reading, one that's completely monopolised by Quidian (over 90% of the market is in their hands),
So what? If they'll make chapters cheaper, more people would pay, and after some time will have a few fixtilliards of paying users here
HP is not a real literature. Its a published, traditional writing. But that's entirely other point. And yes, HP is cheaper. Because its an old as fuq novel. Most of the novels on WN are ongoing.
Yeah, it's a published traditional literature. A real one. Even if it's old, it's still fixilliard times better than 99% of ongoing fresh sh*t from Qidian. Not to mention "originals", which are even worse
Or stupid. Or naive. Pick one.
Are you speaking about yourself? Because you really look a little dumb and naive.
BTW, do you know wuxiaworld? RWX earns money while providing chapters for free. How he's able to do it, and why Qidian international wants hundreds of dollars for a novel?
Wow. Not like I am at any position to comment, but you guys are epic. Logic filled all your head, but yet in my unhumble opinion, you're all acting like a bunch of selfish retard piece of sheetz.
You're like complaining why paying monthly subs to a game like forza and why they're not charging you one shot like some indie games out there. For me, this is what change in our society, one can either follow or make your own d*mn thing.
Did you guys notice that the WN algorithm changes so watching ads now have some different rewards? I hardly see people post yay! Because I got an all fp after that video. Conclusion is, people are rotten, myself included. But as rotten as I am, I'm not selfish. Perhaps learn how to grind and get yourself to enjoy some small things, it will make your life more satisfying then making this forum filled with toxic daily.
(And I am another piece of sheetz than love seeing how toxic people can be. Reason? It makes me value myself more as I pray to the evil god to smite all of these ungrateful spawn for taking thing for granted.)
yungsern87 who aren't selfish? 
I guess, even Lei Feng had some selfish thoughts from time to time, not to mention mortals like us
My information is correct. ISSTH is an oddity proving the rule. Most of the stuff on webnovel won't get the same treatment.
Yeah, I believe there should be a better way to binge. I believe that the prices should be lower as to attract more readers into paying. But guess where does WN have my opinions?
What I brought above is perfectly right. The calculations are right, the comparison are right. What you did, was taking the set of all the crashed planes, calculating the percentage of people that survived the crash and then claimining that every single flight in the world bores such risk of death. So if only 1/100 person survived the plane crash on average in all the crashes to ever happen, then flying would bore 99% risk of death if you were to calculate it like that.
Don't use odd and uncommon situations as the basis for the general rule.
Dwarkin So what? If they'll make chapters cheaper, more people would pay, and after some time will have a few fixtilliards of paying users here
Wait? Why do you get to decide how ti works? How about you start paying first to make such transition possible? Webnovel already does everything it can to attract more readers to it, now its your turn to start proving to WN that you guys are capable and willing to pay, to justify the idea of decreasing the prices. Don't try to push your own responsibility on WN shoulders.
Dwarkin Even if it's old,
HP being old has nothing to do with its lack of quality. In terms of published writing, Harry Potter is on the level of some messy fanfic written by 13yo after he/she got overly drunk for the first time in their life. That's how it looks in the eyes of someone who was digging classics and all sorts of fantasy for years. Its trash-tried level literature and the style of both plot and action that Rowling allegadely used to write it, only proves my point.
(Come on, deus ex machina and poor MC becoming rich overnight? Even in webnovel we cringe when we write something like that)
Dwarkin it's still fixilliard times better than 99% of ongoing fresh sh*t from Qidian.
Can't judge, I do not read translated novels anymore, originals are far better in almost every regard.
Dwarkin Not to mention "originals", which are even worse
Here you are just proving how little you know about the writing side of webnovel. You basically insulted a huge group of people here, and I have yet to see the basis for your confidence in having the right to do so.
Dwarkin Are you speaking about yourself? Because you really look a little dumb and naive.
The difference between the two of us is that I speak about facts and the backend of the profession, while you are writing your conjectures basing on what you would like to see or what seems to be more fitting to your narration. Its typical example of amateur vs professional, the level of this discussion is of a flatearther(you, having no clue about the writing from what you said above) and a scientists (me or any other author who actually know what they are talking about).
The only thing you can achieve in such discussion is show others how easy it is to make a fool out of you. Something I did 7 times in this convo so far. I wonder if you even noticed? xD
Dwarkin RWX
No idea what this novel is, I would like to see the documents and official data that gave you such results. I truly do. Are you capable of providing the evidence behind the only argument that seems any bit sensible in what you wrote? Are you? Or are you just spouting nonsense hoping that no one will call you out on that?
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MotivatedSloth Webnovel already does everything it can to attract more readers to it.
That was one of the most hilarious things I've read on this forum. Do you really believe that Qidian International does something to attract more readers? Like axing translations, changing policies, and making stupidest trial reads selection system?
MotivatedSloth HP being old has nothing to do with its lack of quality. In terms of published writing
That's your opinion, I think that HP is a great fantasy series for youth. And worldwide sales only prove it
MotivatedSloth Here you are just proving how little you know about the writing side of webnovel. You basically insulted a huge group of people here, and I have yet to see the basis for your confidence in having the right to do so.
What can I do if 99% of the top original books are total sh*t? I check top-30 and sometimes top-50 of the original novels from time to time, and only a few of them are good enough in my eyes.
MotivatedSloth The difference between the two of us is that I speak about facts and the backend of the profession, while you are writing your conjectures basing on what you would like to see or what seems to be more fitting to your narration. Its typical example of amateur vs professional, the level of this discussion is of a flatearther(you, having no clue about the writing from what you said above) and a scientists (me or any other author who actually know what they are talking about).
Do I have to be a professional cook to judge if the food is good or bad? If you are writer that doesn't make you words absolute truth. It's just your biased opinion, and I have mine.
BTW, for a "scientist" you make too many incorrect comparisons. You can prove that earth is a spheroid, but you can't prove that your novels are good or bad.
The only thing you can achieve in such discussion is show others how easy it is to make a fool out of you. Something I did 7 times in this convo so far. I wonder if you even noticed? xD
You can even list them one by one, but I can't guarantee that I'll pay attention. 
MotivatedSloth No idea what this novel is, I would like to see the documents and official data that gave you such results. I truly do. Are you capable of providing the evidence behind the only argument that seems any bit sensible in what you wrote? Are you? Or are you just spouting nonsense
Just check wuxiaworlddotcom, the owner is RWX, and he's providing us licensed translations (CN&KR) for free. CKTalon worked for him before. His website is far too popular, so you can easily find every bit of information you need.
Yeah, and Qidian even stole his translations and hosted it here
Dwarkin That was one of the most hilarious things I've read on this forum. Do you really believe that Qidian International does something to attract more readers? Like axing translations, changing policies, and making stupidest trial reads selection system?
Are you blind, stupid or just too keen on proving me wrong that you would go as far as to change my words to make it easier for yourself to prove them wrong? You know that you can suddenly claim that I said that Hitler was right and use it as an argument of what kind of shtty human being I am... But it won't really matter, as I never said such thing.
Just like I never said that Quidian International does anything to attract the readers. From what I know, it doesn't exist anymore. I said that webnovel does a lot to attract more readers to the site. The fact that you don't even have clue about it doesn't defeat the point.
That's the difference of being an outsider with your own ideas and being someone on the inside who actually knows whats happening.
Dwarkin That's your opinion, I think that HP is a great fantasy series for youth.
It's only good as one's first novel, because once you start reading anything of quality, you will inevitably learn how shitty it is in reality. The writing is bad, the plotting is bad, the execution is bad. Just like you won't become a good cook by just adding ton of fat and USS (Ultimate Spice Solution, like a mix of common spices that can be used for almost any dish) to your meals, you can't consider your writing a good one if it uses techniques that most authors abhore as bad, naive and limiting.
Do you know how Deus Ex Machina technique came to be? It was used by ancient Greeks when in their plays, they written themselves into the corner. Then, by the intervention of the God (deus) the problem would be solved. THis kind of writing is considered to be the lowest possible one. If you need DEM to solve the problems you established in your story, you are an incopetent writer, unable to stick to the rules of the world created and deriving the answers from the previous parts of the story.
And that's just a single example of how bad HP is. But that doesn't make it a crime to like it. Just like some people like to eat insects, some others like to drunk themselves silly, others might enjoy caviar and some others will like HP.
Dwarkin And worldwide sales only prove it
Then you should read a bit more about it. HP was the very first novel in the human history that received such an insane promotion. Its the marketing team success, not Rowling's.
Dwarkin What can I do if 99% of the top original books are total sh*t? I check top-30 and sometimes top-50 of the original novels from time to time, and only a few of them are good enough in my eyes.
You see, when I'm claiming that HP is bad, I bring some points about it to prove my words. You are just coming here, like a hypocrite, and claim that most of them are bad. What? Now that the subject has changed, the market no longer is right? Now that its uncomfortable for you to admit it, you won't take financial success as the way to judge how good one's novel is? Pathetic.
Dwarkin Do I have to be a professional cook to judge if the food is good or bad? If you are writer that doesn't make you words absolute truth. It's just your biased opinion, and I have mine.
BTW, for a "scientist" you make too many incorrect comparisons. You can prove that earth is a spheroid, but you can't prove that your novels are good or bad.
I think you fail to understand the meaning of the words you are using. Do you need to be a professional cook to discern whether food is good or bad? No, you don't. Do you need to be an experienced food critic for your opinion on the matter to have any value, someone who tasted all sorts of foods and have the basis to judge the quality of a particular dish? Yes. Otherwise you are doing exactly what you were doing since a while ago. Arguging against the people who have the insiders knowledge with nothing but superstitions, beliefs and naive reasonining on your side.
And yes, you can judge whether a story is objectively good or not. Because writing is not just an art, its a craft like any other. Just like you can judge a quality of a painting by discerning its features or the details of the work of the painter, you can discern whether a novel is properly written or not. The fact that you take such a liberal approach to the craft of writing only proves how little you know about it.
Dwarkin You can even list them one by one, but I can't guarantee that I'll pay attention.
You didn't pay attention so far, so I have no reasons to believe that listing them out would change anything. You would just refuse to accept the reality like you did so far. I'm not a bully to make you a laughingstock even more than I already did.
Dwarkin you can easily find every bit of information you need.
Maybe I can, maybe I can't, it doesn't matter. You brought the matter up so the responsibility of bringing up the evidence for it is also on your shoulders. I know its hard to back up your words with concrete data or information, but I honestly believe you are not that close to a monke to be unable to do so.
Also:
- You went to my oldest contracted book
- You commented on the very first chapter of it
- Your comment had no substance at all in it, just attempting to ridicule me
You do realise that the three points above only prove what a pitiful excuse of a human being you are, if you need to resort to those kind of tactics when you are unable to refute even a single point of mine?
You have my pity and prayers. Honestly, I don't think that anything but a miracle can help that rotten soul of yours at this point. May the blessing of whoever you believe in will be with you.
This post was about how to buy the whole novel? Was it not? XD
The answer to that is: No, you can't. Just buy the chapters and don't complain. The author of the novel that you're reading works hard to entertain you and he/she also needs to get paid in order to live.
Have a nice day and stop fighting
MotivatedSloth
Just like I never said that Quidian International does anything to attract the readers. From what I know, it doesn't exist anymore. I said that webnovel does a lot to attract more readers to the site. The fact that you don't even have clue about it doesn't defeat the point.
Are you a newbie here? Qidian International = Webnovel. "The fact that you don't even have clue about it doesn't defeat the point."
That's the difference of being an outsider with your own ideas and being someone on the inside who actually knows whats happening.
Nope, being insider or outsider doesn't have anything with having own opinion.
MotivatedSloth It's only good as one's first novel.
That's your opinion, mine is different. When I've got the first two books of HP, I'd already read hundreds of fantasy and sci-fi books, like Zelazny, Tolkien, Azimov, Asprin, Heinlein, and many, many others, and I instantly liked HP. So do countless readers all over the world.
MotivatedSloth Do you know how Deus Ex Machina technique came to be? It was used by ancient Greeks when in their plays, they written themselves into the corner.
And this technique was really popular, and viewers loved it. Even Romans loved it too, since we call it in Latin
MotivatedSloth Then you should read a bit more about it. HP was the very first novel in the human history that received such an insane promotion. Its the marketing team success, not Rowling's
I don't agree, prove it. Dig into brain of every reader and look, if they truly love it, or it's just some marketing trick. No amount of marketing can help if the novel was trash.MotivatedSloth You see, when I'm claiming that HP is bad, I bring some points about it to prove my words. You are just coming here, like a hypocrite, and claim that most of them are bad. What? Now that the subject has changed, the market no longer is right? Now that its uncomfortable for you to admit it, you won't take financial success as the way to judge how good one's novel is? Pathetic.
Why should I prove my opinion? In my eyes 99% of them are trash. How many of these "originals" are really published? How many were officially translated and published in real world? It's not like I only look at financial side, but I'm believe that really good books deserve to be published in paper.
MotivatedSloth I think you fail to understand the meaning of the words you are using. Do you need to be a professional cook to discern whether food is good or bad? No, you don't. Do you need to be an experienced food critic for your opinion on the matter to have any value, someone who tasted all sorts of foods and have the basis to judge the quality of a particular dish? Yes. Otherwise you are doing exactly what you were doing since a while ago.
Where did I claim to be a professional literature critic? Just like anybody can judge if the food is good or bad, I can judge these novels and have my own opinion.
Arguging against the people who have the insiders knowledge with nothing but superstitions, beliefs and naive reasonining on your side.
This made me laugh. Who cares about your mysterious "insiders" knowledge? Being a supposed "insider" doesn't give your words any additional weight.
And yes, you can judge whether a story is objectively good or not. Because writing is not just an art, its a craft like any other. Just like you can judge a quality of a painting by discerning its features or the details of the work of the painter, you can discern whether a novel is properly written or not. The fact that you take such a liberal approach to the craft of writing only proves how little you know about
Nope, I just read too many books and I can almost instantly form an opinion about any book. And it is extremely rare (2-3 times in all my life) when I can change my opinion about online novel.
MotivatedSloth You didn't pay attention so far, so I have no reasons to believe that listing them out would change anything. You would just refuse to accept the reality like you did so far. I'm not a bully to make you a laughingstock even more than I already did.
Yeah, yeah, believe in yourself.
MotivatedSloth Maybe I can, maybe I can't, it doesn't matter. You brought the matter up so the responsibility of bringing up the evidence for it is also on your shoulders. I know its hard to back up your words with concrete data or information, but I honestly believe you are not that close to a monke to be unable to do so.
Why should I bring here "concrete data and information" when you can just visit the website and check if they charge money for their ongoing translations. I gave you a link and it's more than enough for any kind of evidence.
MotivatedSloth Also:
- You went to my oldest contracted book
- You commented on the very first chapter of it
- Your comment had no substance at all in it, just attempting to ridicule me
Yeah, I found what seemed to be your most popular book, and I really, really tried to read and make a comment somewhere further, but I wasn't able to finish the very first chapter. And it seems that it wasn't your first edit of it.
You do realise that the three points above only prove what a pitiful excuse of a human being you are, if you need to resort to those kind of tactics when you are unable to refute even a single point of mine?
Yeah, yeah, continue to believe that your words are irrefutable. But, in fact I had to check what kind of "professional" you are, and you horribly disappointed me.
You have my pity and prayers. Honestly, I don't think that anything but a miracle can help that rotten soul of yours at this point. May the blessing of whoever you believe in will be with you
Thanks, it would be an honor to have a blessing of science. From my side I wish you to have an even bigger sense of self importance, so you can bring even more laugh to people with it
Dwarkin A real one.
What is a real one? Are the things published on WN a figment of the imagination and do not exist in reality? Or do you live in an alternative reality? Please tell me what does it mean?
Dwarkin Even if it's old, it's still fixilliard times better than 99% of ongoing fresh sh*t from Qidian. Not to mention "originals", which are even worse
You belong to a group that doesn't understand, doesn't relate, then they come up to vomit all the trash inside over the forums.
I mean you guys always preach that we on WN are not good enough. I saw above that you were gung-hoo over HP sales. In your favor, you said that everyone has a different preference. Agreed, you said one cannot objectively judge if a book is good or bad. Agreed.
But do you think, you can come over forums or comment sections to fart all over someone's effort. NO, I may not be knowledgeable about the prices or quality. Yet as an insider, I can tell you that some people skip meals, skip sleep, only so that they can update the further chapters. This is the effort they put in and the commitment they have towards the readers. You also mentioned Wuxiaworld. Do you know that they were affiliated with WN in the beginning? You can find all the claims you just made here. It's actually legal. Genius.
https://forum.webnovel.com/d/34217-wuxiaworld-is-legit-affiliated-to-wn/4
As for the originals being shitty, you may not know as your imagination is limited to pose and roast people. Imagination is not endless. Any story is not an impulse excluding thought of origin. It takes a lot of time to design a character, then develop the plot. Yet here you are sitting on a cozy chair calling all this sh*t.
You, my kind sir, need to stop. I am not a man who can roast people. Neither do I point at their efforts and call them sht because that is not how I was taught. Just like now, I did not call your argument sht, because that is BELOW my standards. You must have a reason to do this no matter how negligible that is.
If you are compelled to continue doing things like this. Then I hope you get help and get well soon. You have our prayers and well wishes.
Dwarkin Are you a newbie here? Qidian International = Webnovel. "The fact that you don't even have clue about it doesn't defeat the point."
And Microsoft = Windows.
Qidian International doesn't exist. It changed its name to webnovel. Are you dumb or are you pretending?
Dwarkin Nope, being insider or outsider doesn't have anything with having own opinion.
Sure, then go and list out 15 actions that WN is doing to attract more readers to the app. Since it doesn't matter whether you are on the inside or on the outside, you should be able to do so as easily as I could do it right off the bat.
Dwarkin So do countless readers all over the world.
Argument ad populum - the fact that something is endorsed by a wide public doesn't make it right. HP is poorly written from any technical point of view.
Dwarkin And this technique was really popular, and viewers loved it. Even Romans loved it too, since we call it in Latin
Having slaves and impregnating 13-14yo was also one of the Roman ways of life, but the civilisation moved on. So it did with its cultural aspect. We no longer live in society where Olimpian Gods are considered to take active role in the lives of others. We live in society where making promise (in writing, don't expect you to know what it even means) compels you to fulfil it properly. DEM goes against this point.
Dwarkin I don't agree, prove it. Dig into brain of every reader and look, if they truly love it, or it's just some marketing trick. No amount of marketing can help if the novel was trash.
I had a friend that was huge fan of HP. After finally forcing him to read something with any value, he now joined me in laughing at how bad that novel is. Here, the argument on your level.
Dwarkin Why should I prove my opinion? In my eyes 99% of them are trash. How many of these "originals" are really published? How many were officially translated and published in real world? It's not like I only look at financial side, but I'm believe that really good books deserve to be published in paper.
Once again, civilisation moves on, you seem to linger in the past. If you think good novels can be good only if they end up published on paper, then let me call over a few ecofreaks for them to rape you for daring to recklessly waste wood just to get more paper for novels that could be read perfectly well online.
I know what I said above is stupid, but that was the level of your point. You are calling 99% original novels a trash. You are basically insulting tens of thousands of people, by claiming that they write trash. Are you really sure that's something an intelligent person would do?
Dwarkin Where did I claim to be a professional literature critic? Just like anybody can judge if the food is good or bad, I can judge these novels and have my own opinion.
You can have your opinion. But once you voice it out, its no longer just an opinion. In extreme scenarios, people can sue you for slander. Grow up.
Dwarkin This made me laugh. Who cares about your mysterious "insiders" knowledge? Being a supposed "insider" doesn't give your words any additional weight.
I'm sorry, but that's not how it works. You clearly have no clue about writing which you proved over and over again. Rather than lecturing you on basics, something that you would need to pay me quite a lot to do, I just refer to all the knowledge and experience as the insiders info. Your words hold no weight as you have no authority to back them up. My (and any other author who achieved anything) words do hold their weight as they are written by someone who actually experienced the stuff he is talking about.
Dwarkin Nope, I just read too many books and I can almost instantly form an opinion about any book. And it is extremely rare (2-3 times in all my life) when I can change my opinion about online novel
This arrogance of yours only proves all of the points I brought so far. There is nothing in you. Only your own misjudged sense of worth that no one in the world endorses but you. To me, you look like a dog licking its own testicles. It might feel good to you, but for everyone who watches this topic and laughts at you from a while ago, you are nothing more but an example of someone too pitiful to know when they should shut the fuq up and stop breaking the illusion that they have any brains.
Dwarkin Why should I bring here "concrete data and information" when you can just visit the website and check if they charge money for their ongoing translations. I gave you a link and it's more than enough for any kind of evidence
You claimed that it makes more money than WN. Still waiting for any solid proof. Its the third and the last time I'm asking for it, later I will just assume that this point was like any other of what you brought up - meaningless, false and stupid.
Dwarkin Yeah, I found what seemed to be your most popular book, and I really, really tried to read and make a comment somewhere further, but I wasn't able to finish the very first chapter. And it seems that it wasn't your first edit of it.
Yeah, yeah, now you are trying to justify the shitty behaviour of yours. You can't. You did what you did and nothing will change that.
Dwarkin and you horribly disappointed me.
I'm glad. I could get depression if someone like you actually valued me. Also, I will remind you once again - check the meaning of the words before you use them. Because from the looks of things, you fail to even understand what professional means.
And FYI - I was hired by one of the bigger game companies in the world to write a novel for them. I think that alone proves my worth way more than some barking of stray filth you are. But well, I guess even this you will find another silly way to refute, so I will spare the remaining bit of your dignity (let's pretend for a moment you ever had any) and will end my involvement here.
Feel free to bark as much as you want, won't bother replying to someone as meaningless as you anymore.
What a waste of time.
MotivatedSloth My information is correct. ISSTH is an oddity proving the rule. Most of the stuff on webnovel won't get the same treatment.
No, you're comparing apples and oranges.
I do agree that ISSTH is an oddity, but the oddity is that there exists multiple legal translations of it. Thus we can directly compare what WebNovel charges against what is charged for a different translation. WebNovel doesn't make any of its translations available on Amazon, but wuxiaworld does. Over 17,000 coins on WebNovel versus $45 on Amazon (unless you want to subscribe to Kindle Unlimited for $10/month and read it that way.)
In my earlier message, I gave you 6 translated Chinese webnovels on Amazon. I pointed you to 34 translated Chinese webnovels that wuxiaworld makes available as ebooks, all for $80 or less (the more expensive ones are considerably longer than 1600 chapters). So I've given you 30-40 books (I didn't check number of pages for all the wuxiaworld books) where WebNovel's charge per page is 2 1/2 to 6 times its competition.
https://forum.webnovel.com/d/50508-rip-off/25
This is every translated Chinese webnovel that I could find. ISSTH is not an oddity - its price is right in line with other webnovels of the same length. It's the shorter webnovels that WebNovel gets to within 2 1/2 times the competition.
You're choosing to ignore the facts. I've given you 40 books to compare, but that doesn't matter to you. Instead, you stick with your theoretical calculations that are not pertinent to the category of translated Chinese webnovels (and are debatable, but not outrageous, in other categories.)
I've given you 40 books to support my case. Please give your list of translated Chinese webnovels that support your case.
THE_WORDSMITH Please don't come over here because sloth raised a fuss in the discord and asked people to essentially come here and gang up on him, especially when he is using personal attacks against people. It is highly degrading to see fellow authors acting like this.
People are going to like others work as much as people are going to dislike it. Don't respond to it in an emotionally fueled response.
As for this which caught my attnetion:
THE_WORDSMITH Do you know that they were affiliated with WN in the beginning? You can find all the claims you just made here. It's actually legal. Genius.
The comments on that post themselves claim they are not affiliated, and they are in fact not. There were a lot of discussions between Qidian and RWX in acquiring licenses for their translations of their novels, which until that point, had been unlicensed. This is during the time were legal matters were rapidly entering the translation circle, and everyone was relatively new to it.
An agreement was made, which remained behind closed doors, and everything seemed fine until QI aka Webnovel exercised their right to dual host Coiling Dragon.
RWX then made a massive rage post about the issue (which I'm sure you can still find somewhere, but I can't seem to locate it), accusing them of stealing and the relations between the now legalized WW and Qidian plummeted. WW refused to take up any Qidian novels (and I think Qidian refused to sell them to them as well), and they had to source from other sites, such as 17k.
They merely entered negotiations on translation rights purchasing, an agreement was made, then relations fell apart. They were never actually affiliated,
CrispyCritter I do agree that ISSTH is an oddity, but the oddity is that there exists multiple legal translations of it
There is only one translation of it, it is merely dual hosted.
THE_WORDSMITH What is a real one? Are the things published on WN a figment of the imagination and do not exist in reality? Or do you live in an alternative reality? Please tell me what does it mean?
Mostly it's just some trash from wattpad or similar websites that doesn't deserve to be called literature
But do you think, you can come over forums or comment sections to fart all over someone's effort.
Why can't I? We have a freedom of speech.
NO, I may not be knowledgeable about the prices or quality. Yet as an insider, I can tell you that some people skip meals, skip sleep, only so that they can update the further chapters.
No, I don't care about that. If you can't earn money from your work, just drop it.
You also mentioned Wuxiaworld. Do you know that they were affiliated with WN in the beginning? You can find all the claims you just made here. It's actually legal. Genius.
https://forum.webnovel.com/d/34217-wuxiaworld-is-legit-affiliated-to-wn/4
Have you actually read the link you provided? It's clearly written that Webnovel and Qidian aren't affiliated
Yet here you are sitting on a cozy chair calling all this sh*t.
So, how should I call the thing that looks like sht and smells like sht? A delicacy?
If you are compelled to continue doing things like this. Then I hope you get help and get well soon. You have our prayers and well wishes.
Thanks, best wishes for you too
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MotivatedSloth And Microsoft = Windows.
Qidian International doesn't exist. It changed its name to webnovel. Are you dumb or are you pretending?
No, Microsoft ≠ Windows. Nobody called Windows as Microsoft before.
So what if they changed the name? Still Webnovel equals to QI.
MotivatedSloth Sure, then go and list out 15 actions that WN is doing to attract more readers to the app. Since it doesn't matter whether you are on the inside or on the outside, you should be able to do so as easily as I could do it right off the bat.
Are you idiot? You said that Webnovel does something to attract readers, so you have to prove it. With you extremely important "insider" info.
MotivatedSloth Argument ad populum - the fact that something is endorsed by a wide public doesn't make it right. HP is poorly written from any technical point of view.
That's you opinion, I've got it long ago, but, sorry, many people won't agree with you
MotivatedSloth I had a friend that was huge fan of HP. After finally forcing him to read something with any value, he now joined me in laughing at how bad that novel is. Here, the argument on your level.
The most laughable argument I've seen here. On the level of having a black brother in law and not being racist
MotivatedSloth Once again, civilisation moves on, you seem to linger in the past. If you think good novels can be good only if they end up published on paper, then let me call over a few ecofreaks for them to rape you for daring to recklessly waste wood just to get more paper for novels that could be read perfectly well online.
I don't care about any ecofreaks. I from the country where we eat meat everyday and wear clothes made from furs in winter
I know what I said above is stupid, but that was the level of your point. You are calling 99% original novels a trash. You are basically insulting tens of thousands of people, by claiming that they write trash. Are you really sure that's something an intelligent person would do?
So what? Do I have to fake gentleness? If in my eyes it's trash, it's trash
MotivatedSloth You can have your opinion. But once you voice it out, its no longer just an opinion. In extreme scenarios, people can sue you for slander. Grow up.
I'm sorry to disappoint you, but it doesn't work like that. Or J.R. can similarly sue you
MotivatedSloth I'm sorry, but that's not how it works. You clearly have no clue about writing which you proved over and over again. Rather than lecturing you on basics, something that you would need to pay me quite a lot to do, I just refer to all the knowledge and experience as the insiders info. Your words hold no weight as you have no authority to back them up. My (and any other author who achieved anything) words do hold their weight as they are written by someone who actually experienced the stuff he is talking about.
I never claimed that my words carry weight or authority. Nor do I care about your so-called "insiders" info. I'm stating my opinion, what can you do about it? Most of the original novels here are trash, you can't change my opinion, especially with these novels of yours
MotivatedSloth This arrogance of yours only proves all of the points I brought so far. There is nothing in you. Only your own misjudged sense of worth that no one in the world endorses but you. To me, you look like a dog licking its own testicles. It might feel good to you, but for everyone who watches this topic and laughts at you from a while ago, you are nothing more but an example of someone too pitiful to know when they should shut the fuq up and stop breaking the illusion that they have any brains.
Yeah, yeah, continue to live in your delusions
MotivatedSloth You claimed that it makes more money than WN.
Oh, where did I claim that? Quote, please The only thing I said was that wuxiaworld provides novels for free, and Webnovel wants hundreds of bucks. And RWX is still able to earn money
MotivatedSloth Yeah, yeah, now you are trying to justify the shitty behaviour of yours. You can't. You did what you did and nothing will change that.
Will change what? That I tried to read your novel and it was trash? Why should I change that?
MotivatedSloth I'm glad. I could get depression if someone like you actually valued me. Also, I will remind you once again - check the meaning of the words before you use them. Because from the looks of things, you fail to even understand what professional means.
Don't worry, people with a face thickness like yours will never get a depression.
And about professional - please give me some evidence, how much do you earn here and are you really able to feed yourself with these earnings?
And FYI - I was hired by one of the bigger game companies in the world to write a novel for them. I think that alone proves my worth way more than some barking of stray filth you are.
Who cares? Definitely not me. There are so much trash games, I won't even ask you to prove it
But well, I guess even this you will find another silly way to refute, so I will spare the remaining bit of your dignity (let's pretend for a moment you ever had any) and will end my involvement here.
Feel free to bark as much as you want, won't bother replying to someone as meaningless as you anymore.
Oh my, so you asked other people to reply me, and now you just chickened out? How great
What a waste of time.
Thank you for entertaining me and giving a few minutes of laugh
Wolfick There is only one translation of it, it is merely dual hosted.
Ahh.. I had though it simply shared a common translation of the initial chapters and later diverged. I'm not sure where I heard that. Thanks.
It is still is quite an oddity; there are few novels with multiple legal owners and this is the only completed novel I know of that is legally available on Amazon as well as WebNovel. Presumably Legend of the Dragon King will eventually be another.