Ideal There is no changing or distorting truths. You just seem very ignorant and parroting someone else who doesn't quite understand the legality either. You are making false statements and assumptions because of this ignorance.

To answer your questions, no Qidian cannot publish a story and profit directly from it without the authors consent. This is why when Qidian chooses to sign an author a new contract is formed where they can retain more rights. Because publishing/directly monetizing a story causes legal problems on both sides.

It clearly states in the ToS that Qidian can grant any of their affiliates the same limited license that you have granted them. However if you actually bothered to read up on what they can and cant do as well as take a peak at what the rights you are granting them is you'll see it's mostly just advertising and making sure things like a step by step on how to make a real life bomb aren't in a story.

Again, I can't stress this enough to the conspiracy theorists. Qidian legally cannot do anything with your story that involves the theft, monetization or whatever other wild ideas you may have. Feel free to browse the other sites ToS and compare, you will find that they are all basically saying the same thing.

Google is right there for anyone to use. You can look up limited license, DMCA, Author Rights, Copyright Laws. Once you do you'll realize this person and whoever he is parroting doesnt have a clue.

Also if Qidian is looking to hire I'll gladly hop on that gravy train.

      Gamblejay Also if Qidian is looking to hire I'll gladly hop on that gravy train.

      :triumph: Qi and I still haven't discussed my salary, so don't go about claiming a job from them!

          In RoyalroadL, you publish the novel but did you know that you don't get a cent from the ads showing in each chapter you publish?

            5 days later

            @Ideal , @Gamblejay only stated truth, I red the whole forum, and did the research myself, they can possibly allow viewing through there other mediums they have, however, they cannot make money off it, any more than they do off the adds and the traffic, without the authors permission. I am one always on the prowl for truth & looking to debunk flawed arguments regardless of if I agree with the concept or not.

            3 months later

            Am I the only person that feels that this forum has kinda turned into an internet lawyer war? 😂 I'm not too worried about the issue because I wouldn't be able to write anything good enough to get a contract in the first place, so whether they are the 'bad guys' or not, I would only do it for a hobby. As long as they don't go round stealing people's work, it doesn't affect me. Leaving the battlefield now.

            Eh, then just don't publish..?

            I mean, I'll write a novel here, sure...But if I'm talking about a novel that'll get me money...WHy? I'll go to a better site or something...

            I just write here for fun..DOn't really care bout money..

            (Unlesssss is dem big bucks which we all like..talking about dat dollar bill...)

              3 months later

              Gamblejay

              I believe that the so-called Limited License is in terms with the basic copyright laws, which says that copyright can only last for 70 years. Hence, it cannot be perpetual, and webnovel would be in direct conflict with the basic copyright laws. So basically they're saying that they share copyrights with you until the copyright runs out. Also, there are few loopholes I think I can see.

              For example, although their use is non-exclusive, meaning you can use your own work however you want, their terms regarding the fact that they can use your work for any affiliate website (which is SERIOUSLY vague) means that they can just create new websites/services under them which exploit your work (if it becomes big). Real non-exploitative contracts usually give a "list of services which we can use your work in" (which can be updated with notice) so that it prevents the loophole of creating exploitative websites under them, and the contract can be put on hold, and work removed immediately (until there is an agreement) if the creator doesn't like that new website being added.

              *I say basic and not international because oftentimes copyright laws are further defined by regional copyright laws, which can make them stricter or looser.

                  [unknown]
                  If someone were to consider publishing their novel on something like Amazon and wants to remove their novel from Webnovel are they able to forcefully keep it on their site or continue to use your book on any affiliates?

                    FrostWarlock
                    If someone were to consider publishing their novel on something like Amazon and wants to remove their novel from Webnovel are they able to forcefully keep it on their site or continue to use your book on any affiliates?

                        AzuleX
                        If your novel is not contracted, you're free to do whatever you want with it. Double/triple/quadruple posting on multiple sites, whatever you want.
                        Otherwise, consult someone in WN staff.

                            AzuleX You can publish your novel on Amazon, but Webnovel will have the final say about whether your novel gets removed or not. There are four scenarios possible (the probability depends on the popularity of the novel and whether it gets an official contract):

                            #1) You stop updating Webnovel Version and publish the complete novel on Amazon. Webnovel Version remains there, and Qidian doesn't remove it.

                            #2) Webnovel removes it, and you publish the complete novel on Amazon.

                            #3) Webnovel makes you finish it (in the case of an official contract or if you refuse, get someone to finish it) as you publish your novel on Amazon, leading to two stories with the same start but different endings.

                            #4) Webnovel copies the rest of the novel from Amazon (very unlikely, but Webnovel is shameless - they stole a novel from Royal Road without the author's permission, for example) after it is published.

                            Note that depending on the conditions of the official contract, the ending scenario can change. Just realised that I'm talking as if this is an interactive choose-your-adventure story.

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