Myumara why not see from different view?
Isn't this a recognition that fanfic is great enough to have it's own place?
This also will separate those who dislike fanfic and those who love it.
Aren't you experienced bad comments or reviews from reader, if there's still bad comments appear, you can just say ,'dude, you read in the wrong section'
This site is turning into a trash can...
That's not true. The age of consent for America is 18. Do you even live in America?
Knowing about how sex works is okay for a child. Smut, on the other hand, has to do with sexual pleasure, which is extremely unnecessary for children.
Also, nobody reads the warning signs. how many times do you think children actually go out of their way to ask their parents when it reads "parent advisory"?
AuHNG i think he means the philippines
He did say America.
Also, having sex at twelve is disgusting. Some people haven't even gone through puberty at that age. Just will allow pedophiles to get what they want.
AuHNG I dunno, I used to read my mom's romance novels for fun when I was in elementary school.
AuHNG he meant between peers. Not between adult and teenager.
Aren't teenager eagerly discover something new at that age?
And the consent he means maybe as ,"both party agree to do it"
Finally, most people know that sex is procreation and how to do it. I doubt, however, that most people actually know the biology behind it. You should not be teaching the pleasures of sex, but rather the biology behind sex to a child.
Most often, those who know about ####s and vags and what not don't actually know some of the basic biology behind them. Such as, but not limited to, you do not pee out of your vag, virgins can have broken hymens, and hymens aren't always broken during ### semen is not the same as sperm, and they probably won't be able to identify most parts of the reproductive organs.
So, unless you're teaching them about that, it's best to leave the educating to your health teachers, and not take the education into your own hands.
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Consent has a very broad (Or is it thin? Not sure which expression is correct) lining. Since I don't know if I'll get banned for sprouting more R rated stuff, basically, all I'm going to say, is:
When sex is allowed at younger ages, it makes it so people are more easily manipulated and used for their bodies...
Strippers, pornstars, and prostitutes exist in a country such as America. For countries with lower ages, this problem only becomes worse.
Ex: foreigners coming to certain countries to #### barely teens at brothels. (Funner fact: especially boy x boy, because we all know that it happens when some of society is against it, so they have to please themselves in secret).
AuHNG I know certain country make that happen and that countries become heaven for pedophilia
Bad things is we can't doing anything at other countries policy
It doesn't bother me if they separate the searches, but if they separate the rankings that's going too far.
Dude. That's self-analogy. Not logical. Just because you were exposed to it at a young age, does not mean it was a good thing or it was correct.
I dunno if your mother allowed you, but if she did, she should have at least took responsibilities to teach you about sex early. And, as I mentioned, the actual biology behind it, which most parents can't do, and most people who think they know so much about sex fail to realize that perhaps they should have listened to their health teachers. It can also be that their health teachers were incompetent, which does happen frequently.
SweetsTomato I think that's what he was thinking too. I think Au_Noob is just more conservative than we are. I'm pretty open to young adults learning about safe sex and how to respect your partner when you do decide to have sex. That's just me though. I started pretty early in life, 7th grade maybe 8th... can't remember. Anyway, I don't see a problem with it because in our history as human beings, we started having sex in our teens.
AuHNG Romance novels are more than just sex. The journey itself is quite interesting. I was an avid reader and did not see anything wrong with men and women coming together. It was on the television anyway, so who cares.
I think you have a bit too much trust in the education system. I don't remember paying any attention during sex ed classes. I learned more from the discovery channel and movies.
Ultimately, a child will be exposed through media or just asking google about sex. It is inevitable. I think early education is more important. I also don't see a problem going over how to make sure your partner is respected and that you are respected. I think that is important too. That is something my parents never talked to me about. I am pretty open minded though.
Oh, I don't think people who aren't able to use sex to reproduce, should be able to learn about the pleasures of sex. So basically, no prepubescent people.
Yeah, but like I'm saying. Most people only know that man's organ- ejaculate- sperm (which btw, a man ejaculates semen, not only sperm, but most seem to think that they are interchangeable)- into vag-> pregnant.
But if I asked any random adult to explain where the sperm goes, they would not know.
People before puberty aren't young adults. I'm perfectly fine with those who are going through puberty, learning about it. I think it is also important for children to know what sexual assault is. Other than that, I hope that it isn't only the media that influences childrens views, but that they also learn about basic biology.
Back in middle school, a lot of people knew about sex, but they didn't really know about sex. It's important to not just learn from the media and smut, but actually learn from educational resources.
If you didn't understand what I'm trying to say, basically tldr;
Children should not be learning about sex from smut, but from education/resources that will actually explain it properly.
Children like to talk a lot. If you teach one child about sex, it might spread around the entire school, along with any misconceptions the child who spread it might have. Education is important, but often people are miseducated. Also, most parents don't want their children to be exposed to sex at a young age, so its best to respect other people's decisions.
Myumara Why? It will give the books that have no content directly from other sources, and books that do, higher rankings on their respective boards rather than it all being on one board... Now what I'd really like, is if you could see where you were on the board that your novel is listed on, then there was also another ranking board that compared all novels (original. fanfic, and translated (i listed in order of my preferences)) so you could see where you rank on the sight as a whole (this is not saying I want them to consolidate all of the sections back together, just make it to where you can see where the powerstone ranking would be if there were no separations).;,;.
Myumara did they clearly stated there will be separated rank?
Well, I agree with that coz fanfic build on already established reader, easier getting reader. Compared with original which start from scratch that whole different. So, for fairness, I agree on rank separation
AuHNG so true... now I will likely teach my children the truth behind it from a young age, but I will do it in a way that they can understand at whatever age they are... meaning that I won't explain things that are to complex for them to understand until they are at an age whereas they can understand it... now would I teach other's children the same... nope... I'd simply say "ask your parents" to any question regarding that topic they ask me (i would replace the word parents accordingly if I knew they had none).
SweetsTomato If that was the case, Naruto is the best selling book in the world yet only my novel is in top 10. Your logic is flawed.
For the sake of discussion, can we clear about something first?
We talk about teenager now it come to children
So, which age belong to children, teenager, and adult?
SweetsTomato Yes I feel the conversation was becoming twisted and confusing.
I have to sleep, anyways, bye.
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Myumara you write story with naruto as MC. Most people already know who he is, what he can do. He a ninja, can use ksgebunshin, have nine tail fox beast.
I make story with Simon as the MC. Did people know who Simon is? What he can do? What is special about him? Do you know?
They must read first to know who he is, that different with naruto coz people already have an image in their mind who he is
They can directly give you power stone from beginning if they like naruto, different with Simon, they need time before they like it
Myumara your logic also flawed because you only see in ten, you not see in hundred, in two hundred
SweetsTomato I can tell you haven't read even a little of my novel. Not only is Naruto not even in my story yet, not even a single MAIN character has made an appearance. In the 76 chapters I've written maybe 4-5 even take place in Konoha. Of the 3-4 NAMED characters I used they were such side characters people had to look them up.
You tell me how much content I had to create to get to chapter 76 then. The fact people like my story and not a single Fan-favorite character have even appeared till chapter 72 (Itachi) it insults me when people say I'm just using something else. If that's the case every novel with cultivation copies each other.
SweetsTomato What? What do you mean by that comment?
AuHNG it's not.. I looked up it ;c
Myumara I mean you should count how many fanfic, not just naruto, in top 200 rank
AuHNG
The federal law establishes the age of 12 as the minimum age of consent, while the age at which there are no restrictions for consensual sexual activities is 18 (sex with someone 12-18 is not illegal per se, but can still be open to prosecution under certain circumstances).
SweetsTomato Oh, when your novel is ranked #6 you don't have to scroll that low so I'm not sure. But its definitely less than novels that have nothing to do with Naruto.
Myumara yes, I'm not read yours because I'm not naruto fan, just know naruto.
If you borrow, even only a dime, it's still called borrowing, right?
Even you not write the whole main character, you still use something from naruto story right?
That enough to including your story into naruto fan fiction
Myumara Like @SweetsTomato said,
SweetsTomato Well, I agree with that coz fanfic build on already established reader, easier getting reader. Compared with original which start from scratch that whole different. So, for fairness, I agree on rank separation
This is the ease of getting new readers... what your comment,
Myumara If that was the case, Naruto is the best selling book in the world yet only my novel is in top 10. Your logic is flawed.
actually references it the other side of the coin, keeping readers. While it is easier to get readers for a fanfic, due to there already being a fan base, it is harder to keep those same readers... now you may ask why? That's simple, if a fanfic does not hold to the fans standards (for many fans, that means holding to the original story), then they will drop the novel faster than one could say 'but'. Whereas, once a reader gets past chapter 5 in an original, it is a lot less likely for them to drop the novel. So does that clarify things for the both of you? @SweetsTomato? @Myumara?
SweetsTomato I can say that every novel that has elves and magic is a copy of Lord of the Rings. Most novels even use the same levels of cultivation with some sort of sword or spear.
It's 2018, nothing is original anymore. Naruto is a different form of literature from LoTR, but I can easily say most Fantasy novels are a LoTR Fanfic too.
Your story has a mech? Gundam fanfic
Cultivation? Every Chinese novel did it first.
I personally wish the sections were broken down like this...
Originals (this section consists of novels that are not directly based on other novels and are not translates)
FanFictions (this section consists of novels that are based on another novel, and do not contradict the original in any way)
Translations (this section consists of novels that are translated from other novels)
I know that the first and third sections already exist
Parodies (this section consists of novels that are commonly called fanfictions, but contradict the original in some way or another (or just completely ignore it))
I also know that this last one will never happen
the list is in the order of my reading preference, but that is just what I read most often... I enjoy most novels I read about equally.;,;.
DeJeL People who like Lord of the rings will like fantasy stories.
People who like star wars/trek will like Scifi novels more.
People who like anime will like fanfics.
I can say every novel is a copy of something else because someone did it first.
Your cultivation novel mentions Nacent soul? Its a copy of desolate era then.
Your novel uses magic? Copy of wizard world.