Troll_Fox I cannot imagine the pain of having a gf, forget harem
Harem or no Harem
Troll_Fox I would rather get one girl in real life. We know that there will be no harem in our real life ;) Getting multiple gfs would be saying that you have a problem with reliability. If you want a gf, don't do something like be half-assed with them. I've also experienced such simulations in dreams. Scary...
No harem - It is sloppy. A determined MC in the middle of a journey that has his own problems to deal with doesn't have time for romance, fifty or so girls to take care of and the problems that they bring with them.
Don't make a harem, or else I'll drop your novel!
Or make a harem, but it has to be good and can't be more than 2-3 girls. The MC can't be a stale piece of bread and you have to give equal Waifu time. If these requirements are not meant, I will come for you...in the comment section
Misguided_Rooster Will try my very best to achieve making a good novel. :) I do think I'm kinda improving as I write... Well that's what I think. :p
I actually have somewhat the same issue with my novel where readers shout "there should be a harem tag" or "please no harem"
Though I really don't think about it much as I on;y read the comments to see what they think about the novel. Since we authors don't have control over our own tags or even remove the incorrect ones, i can't really do anything about what tags have been put there.
To me, when i deem a novel i read a harem novel, it means that the MC has trouble choosing between the various choices or straight out chooses more than one. (that's my own judgement of considering one a harem novel anyway) Since mine does not have that problem... (at least I haven't really decided yet?) Even if there are a generous amount of female characters, the MC's focus is completely on something else.
I don't know if this is going to be helpful to you or not but what I do is just write what I already planned while ironing out how to get there. Remember your original thoughts on what is about to happen and do not allow the comments to sway your own opinion because no matter what, some people will not like what you decide. Don't let the comments influence what you write ESPECIALLY the main choices/parts. I'm not saying don't listen to the comments but compromising with "what they are asking for" is a good way for one to lose the intended way.
Take note that most of the people reading your novel may not even be actively commenting. or if they do comment, it's the usual xp sect. Always remember that you have more readers in the dark than those actually trying to impact the way you tell your story. If your getting swayed by the comments, you can always stop reading for a few chapters and just come back at it afterwards. complete the thoughts you have on your mind goes because you are first and foremost the creator of the fiction they are enjoying. the fact that they are following your novel means that they like the content you started in the first place.
Just my two cents. hope it helps
Water0202020 cough
I’m actually traumatized by girls so I can’t imagine why guys want harems.....
idkmylifeisamess or we can stay single for our whole life with our right hand as a companion XD
Troll_Fox are you talking about your difficulties or bragging about it. stares with vacant suspicious eyes
Water0202020 the former of course.....had a gf but she cheated on me so meh
Troll_Fox I can't press Sad in this forum...
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My 2 cents.
Criticism and opinions can be placed into two categories and then dealt with by you.
Whenever a reader, (which includes other authors, critics etc), gives you feedback on an aspect you need to look at the root of the issue.
"The main character should have done this not that...." e.g. gone to paris, not stay behind in workshop training.
NEVER do what readers tell you to do, but ALWAYS look for the cause of the critic to learn from your "beta readers"
This way you can learn if something is boring, out of character, not enough depth of character, etc and you can make a decision if you want to change. But at least you got the message.
Collating feedback
If one reader tells you a joke isnt funny and four say it is. Then its funny. And vice versa
substitute joke/funny with - understandable, interesting, etc
Ok what does this all have to do with harems?
1) You cannot please everyone all the time. Don't even try.
2) What are the personality and motives of your characters? It should not be you or the readers deciding if there is a harem, it should be the characters. And in that if they did; it would not look like an anime harem, maybe more like a love triangle.
3) Listen to the readers intent, never let them bully you.
Troll_Fox My right... meh. I gave my first to my left.
Now I'm really confused I got a comment today that's says I said before that there will be no harem. When did I say that?! I never did.
idkmylifeisamess right or left is the same since they’re your hands~!!
Water0202020 patpat
@Water0202020 @Troll_Fox @MasterRabbink @GreasyBeer @Skully_ @idkmylifeisamess @Ruruci @Misguided_Rooster @KillerHemboy @LawCol @Gyihhuhu_ @Ierrech @BabyTanuki @yu_ba_bu_neng I have decided on what to write, thank you for the advise. :)
lynerparel Good luck with it, if there is really going to be a harem, then each girl should have a different personality, and don't make them disappear for the sake of getting another member.
Personally, If there is a harem story, I would like girls to be strong and help mc to achieve his goals.
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lynerparel great! Eventually true fans will be fans, neutrals will stick with you, and haters or band-wagoners won't last with you...
Trust in what you write!
Edit: not like my book is successful haha! But in other areas, I have learned to just say, "What does it matter...?" And live open-heartedly
Listen to readers describing a problem and think of a way to improve the writing to solve.
I cant solve it for you. What is the reason its confusing? lack or exposition explaining stuff? Does it become clear later? Is the information worked in?
Theres nothing wrong with chapter one being confusing if it all comes clear as they read. thats normal. But we havent established why its confusing
You're right, only women complain about it!
I am a woman!
I hate harem! =D
But it depends on the harem, or rather, it does not depend on the harem it depends on the MC and how it relates to these women.
Example: Tales of Demons of Gods, clearly the MC is going to have a harem, but I do not hate the idea, MC did everything for these women, nothing humiliating or uncomfortable, but it helped each of them to rise up and fight their battles, which is beautiful and inspiring, very difficult to find MC so, do not take advantage of a moment of weakness to subjugate the woman or "conquer" the beauty. So I am in doubt of which woman should stay with the MC, so the harem makes sense to me, because all women are well developed, what they feel for the MC is not admiration and it is not dependence, because if they become wife or not, the MC will still act the same way, always helping them.
For me, I'm a woman - sorry I have to put it that way because men on this topic are jerks - I like that type of harem.
Sincerely speaking, all men of harem always take advantage of women in their times of weakness and this is revolting!
The tip is if you want to reach out to more readers, not just the narrow-minded men!
Xoxo
Rextraos
A sad life man!
lynerparel
Your readers haunted you here, watch out!
Haha haha!
Xoxo
I realized that the first few chapters of a webnovel are usually confusing, not just our original ones, but even those of the famous authors. Some early chapters put the reader to the test of their knowledge about the world Xianxian, Xuanhuan and Martial Cultivation. Which makes the beginner reader very confused.
I only spoke this from experience as a reader.
In my case my readers do not understand when I want to do a chapter with the perspective of a single character or with all the emotional load of a N character, even when I want to make a paragraph of my MC remembering his past life in the modern world.
They complain that I break the rhythm of the story and blabla, so what did I do?
I've put two more bonus chapters from the perspective of a character who has not even appeared in the novel yet without being quoted.
Haha, I do not restrict myself to writing when it comes to how I want to write! If I want a character N narrating his own story, I do. If I want to character J who died, narrate his life before in a chapter or more, I do!
Take_the_Moon Damn don't tell the others.
lynerparel
Hahahaha! =D
I keep your secret!
Xoxo
Take_the_Moon sadistic! I'll take down notes...
lynerparel What about my advice? Was I not helpful enough to receive a shoutout?
Rextraos Sorry about that, I didn't notice I hadn't placed you in. So here is a special thank you from me to you. :) Thanks for the advise, (bowing head). :) yay \o/
lynerparel I shall receive your unnecessary praise.
lynerparel -
Good luck on your novel~
I am a male. (shh). And I do not like harems. The main reason I dislike them is that the women, or girls, usually have no motivation to be in a harem. Its usually forced by the author. Therefore fake. Therefore shit characters. And Skully hates shit characters.
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I agree more or less, after all it is not only the female character of the harem that is without personality, even as the author makes the MC bring a new woman to his harem is also shit. As I said before, usually the women are in a difficult situation and the MC takes advantage of this to bring these women to the harem. Rarely will you see an MC that helps an FL lift up and get stronger, unpretending, or unpretending that FL is beautiful and sexy, that sort of thing.
I greatly respect the author who put a FL that is weak and the MC goes there and retains it and leaves she strong, even if he is to help in the future in the combat, not just to be added in the harem for no one reason.
My point is: The FL personality cannot be weak and the way it enters the harem cannot be the kind that it is harnessed by the MC at its weakest moment. Overcoming these two points still the third point, make us readers find it necessary for the harem to exist!
Xoxo