SinisterSmile I write for free because it is a hobby of mine. People drop them because real life happens. If you don't like it be sure to let your fave authors know how much you like their books. A lot of people who write here are amateurs and writing a novel is harder then it looks. :)

    SinisterSmile Yep, I write to improve myself. One of the best things a reader can do is give a comment. Bad or good it is a nice way to let the author know what you guys are feeling. It is also exciting to see a new one.

    I started writing because I read a terrible translated novel on here. I wasn't just the translation, but the story that was bad. I then thought I can do better. It was also a way for me to learn how to improve as a writer. If I am going to do something, then I should try to become a master at it. Hence, here I am months later.

    I don't intend to quit because I have made some nice friends with some of the readers in my discord. The readers really make all the difference in the world. So like Transparency said, "...let your fave authors know how much you like their books."

      Writing is natural selection, the weak breaks.
      I envy people, who can write in eng, I'm in eng no boom-boom. I must write in rus, and in the future need to somehow translate. But I can't drop... I can't. I'm strong. Hulk smash:)

        It's not that people drop their novel on purpose. Writers have a personal life which means we are limited on time. Writing and editing takes a long time, esp. if you are a slow writer/typer like me. Also, the lack of support/readers make writers not want to continue. For me personally, as a full time student amd worker, it's hard to put time into my novel. Not to mention, I'm not very hyped about my novel as I used to be anymore. Plus writing used to be fun, now I feel like I have to write everyday so my readers can enjoy. Which I like that I have readers but at the same time, I feel my work isn't at its best because I wasn't in the writing mood that day ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜

        SinisterSmile

        I write wish-fulfillment because my own life is soooooo bad. I never give up because my real life is sooooo bad. I tried reading other novels but wasnt happy with the mc - not enough wishfulfilment for me when mc does something stoopid.

        Time? you have time to post on here you have time to write novel.

        I give up novel when you give me 1 star reiview. fark you.

        SinisterSmile
        I started reading webnovels because I had exhausted anime, manga, and videogames to the point of being bored of all of them. So, I of course did the same thing to webnovels. Read hundreds until I got completely bored. Then I entered a writing contest on this site for the hell of it. People liked it so I kept writing it. I did end up dropping that book due to lack of time, a large number of amateur mistakes I made writing it, and poor planning in general. I plan to reboot it in the future. My point is, I didn't plan to become a writer. I just entered a contest for shiggles and things spiraled out of control from there.

        Now, I'm still writing my 2nd and more popular book. It's much better than my 1st since I learned from my mistakes. It's been an interesting experience for me. I enjoy doing it and it has basically become my main hobby. I make no money off it, but I do hope to do so in the future. Writing has unexpectedly given me something I never thought I'd have. A dream that may actually be able to provide a living for me someday. But even if it doesn't work out that way, I don't think I could drop the hobby now. I love it too much. I'll probably write less in the future when I find full-time IT employment, assuming I never manage to become a full-time author. But I'll still keep writing when I can nonetheless.

        I certainly don't write due to an abundance of free time. I was pretty free when I started, but now I'm swamped with college and HW. I'm also pretty sure I nailed a part-time job I applied for, so I'll become even busier. Honestly, I was rather shocked to learn how much I loved writing. I've almost finished my masters degree in computer info systems, lol. I never thought I'd find something I actually enjoy doing, so I settled for Information Technology. Go figure I find what I really want to do now that I'm almost finished. Still, it's good for me since I know my chances of making it as an author are relatively slim.

        For anyone reading this. Don't want your favorite author to drop their book? Sometimes you can't stop them. Life happens. Shit gets in the way. And I'd imagine some lose interest in it. But if you comment, leave a review, vote, etc. it'll encourage them to keep going. Especially commenters. I check for comments frequently like a facebook obsessed teenager, lol! I also keep a pretty obsessive eye on the rankings. I even track my ending weekly votes and rank in an excel sheet with graphs!

          Maili
          I also envy those who have English as their mother tongue or as a second language ... I write in Portuguese BR and I translate to ENG, but I often have to edit it too, because there is something that in PT gets one thing and in ENG it becomes something absurd.

          Ierrech
          Holy shit I regret typing this on mobile. Please forgive any mobile grammar mistakes lol. Lesson 1. Don't type this long ass response on mobile.

          I'll start by saying that I believe I started out far better than most beginners. So, I made less mistakes than most beginners. That's not to say that those that started out worse than me won't surpass me. They very well might =p. Writing, like any skill, requires a lot of practice to improve regardless of how good you are when you start.

          That being said. Here are my main mistakes for Uniform System. My first novel. I've listed them in order of most severe mistakes to minor mistakes.
          1. No major goal introduced early on. I actually liked doing this, as it allowed my character more freedom in finding himself. But it also meant there was no real story or plot. Just a sequence of events about our MC.
          Lesson Learned:
          In my 2nd novel I made sure to introduce MCs major goals/aspirations relatively early. Some of those aspirations actually changed slightly as time went on and the character developed. Point is, make sure you give MC a major longterm goal/dream from the beginning.
          2. Writing flow. This was mainly caused by my lack of familiarity with writing. I used characters names way too often. Go skim ch1 of Uniform System. Gaurentee almost every paragraph starts with MCs name. It's irritating to the reader and takes them out of the flow. I didn't start fixing this until around chapter 13. Then I rapidly improved from there.
          Lesson Learned:
          Don't repeat character names more than needed. Use he/she more if possible. Also, add some flair to the speaking. In Uniform System I kept writing James spoke, "blablabla". In my 2nd novel I try to not use 'spoke' as it's boring and tells us nothing. Instead I do things like Ed frowned, "blablabla." Or Ed rose an eyebrow while giving the man a suspicious look. "Blablabla". These little tidbits explain character emotions and expands their personality while breaking up the large chunks of dialogue I tend to write.
          3. Poor planning. Like I said earlier, I entered that 1st contest for shiggles. There was no plan. Still, the 1st volume went suprisingly smoothly. Then I hit the 2nd volume. BOOM! Writers block! Each chapter was difficult to write. I felt they weren't interesting. There was no real arc or goal for the 2nd volume at all. I didn't know where MC was going or who he was meeting. This caused my writing time to take nearly twice as long and still resulted in worse quality.
          Lesson Learned: Plan a basic outline. I still probably do less than I should here. But when starting the 2nd volume of my current novel I atleast knew the major arc and goal of that volume first. I also try to plan out atleast a few chapters worth of major events in advance. I dont always stick to those plans strictly, but they serve as my guidelamps on the way. My writing quality improved as a result, as did my writing time.

          Those 3 above were my major mistakes. I have other minor ones I don't feel are worth mentioning/listing.

          Now, lets talk about mistakes other authors make that I didn't. I see these constantly and they're irritating. Every item listed below is something I believe I did really well right from the beginning, but other authors seem to screw up a lot.
          1. GRAMMAR. Sorry, but my grammar is really damn good for not having an editor. So many grammar mistakes. People use commas wrong so much. Or don't use them at all. Or are lazy in their editing, which is just as important as the writing. At the very least authors need to learn:
          Proper commas. Not sure? Read it aloud. If you naturally pause somewhere in a sentence then it probably needs a comma. When in doubt leave it out or divide up the sentences more.
          He/She. Many authors don't understand possessive he/she. For example, they'll write "He didn't like her own Sister." This is wrong. It's his sister. If unsure then google possessive he/she.
          To vs too. Google it if you don't know it.
          They/their/they're. Learn the difference.
          Then vs than. Same as above.
          There are others. I used to struggle with some of these back in middle school. But the answers are easily searchable if this is your weak point.
          2. Characters. Don't make 1 dimensional characters. Plan out their personality and give them their own motivations. A character should never exist to serve as an accessory for the MC unless they are a very minor throw away character. For that matter, make your MC have more than 1 dimension as well.
          I think characters is probably what I'm best at. They may not be the most badass at the start, but I gaurentee they'll only become more interesting as time goes on and they continially experience character growth.
          3. Don't force your MC to do something because of X. This is a common mistake and I've made minor versions of it myself. Example, MC is forced to go to magic school by his father. He goes to school and learns magic. Bad writing. The MC is just following the plot flow, which is boring. Make sure the MC is directing the story. It's his adventure and he must suffer the consquences of his own decisions. Same example, but now good writing. Father attempts to force MC to go to magic school. MC pretends to go but really runs away to join the thieves guild instead. He directed the flow. It's his adventure now! Not his fathers path.
          4. Lack of conflict. Conflict drives the story. Man vs man. Man vs nature. Man vs himself. Got writers block? You need to introduce more conflict. This also ties in with #3 about MC driving story.
          Bad example: Arrogant villian kidnaps Lazy swordmasters wife. He is now forced to not be lazy and display his skills to save her! He slayed his enemies in cold blood to rescue his beloved! This is bad writing. Good conflict, but now MC is following the story flow instead of directing it.
          Good example: Arrogant villian kidnaps Lazy swordmasters wife. He refuses to go against his lazy nature, so he outwits the arrogant villian using his superior intellect. Lazy swordmaster gets drunk at a noblemans party. He frames the arrogant villian for a crime of stealing the nobles jewels. This was done while exerting little effort. The villian is arrested and swordmaster is reunited with his wife! He directed the plot instead of doing the expected. So this is good writing.
          5. Don't focus too much on other people's stories. Look for writing flow styles and ideas. Don't try and copy them. I actually made a serious attempt at writing once before I ever even learned about webnovel. I basically tried ripping off Coiling Dragon. I spent more time and effort writing 4 chapters of it than I did writing 10 chapters of Uniform System. The result? It was absolute shit. I keep those 4 chapters around as a reminder of not to do that.
          6. This is my personal lesson also related to those 4 chapters mentioned above. I imagine some other authors do this too. Don't waste tons of time on pointless research. Those 4 chapters I wrote? I dug into tons of greek mythology and symbolism. Every name had a significant background and symbolic meaning. Fucking hell, what a waste of my time. Know what I did for my novel currently raked top 100? Gave MC my nickname of Ed. Named his rival Jake after the dude from state farm. Not even joking. Some other names I atleast put some thought into. Dupe was named after his powers with his real name Nick being based off of Akumetsu, which inspired the character. Mr. Ardy was a pun of Research & Design(R&D haha, get it?). Hell, I named a guard after the penguin from adventure time just for the hell of it lol. Point is, unless it's essential to your novel theme (historical for example) don't waste tons of time on useless research that 99% of readers won't care about or appreciate.
          7. Perhaps the most important. This one is subjective. Make sure the story is interesting!

            lynerparel
            Yeah, I went overkill. Basically just wrote a damn chapter on my phone lol.
            Any lessons I missed you care to share? I wouldn't mind some advice or lessons learned from a high ranker like you =p.

              EldridSmith
              I'll try to check it out tomorrow after looking at Lerrech's, as I promised him earlier in another thread. I've finally got some spare time tomorrow so I should hopefully be able to read a few chapters of both.

                SnoozySloth Not really advise, but when I started writing it was on wattpad. It was an original called Beginnings end. I actually brought it over here in webnovel but unlike wattpad the reception I got from it was not even 10% like before. Beginnings end was what started my writing path, it led me to the one more time series, which has been contracted recently so I deleted it here in webnovel.

                So when I noticed that my work doesn't seem like its drawing in a crowd like I thought it would, I checked what kind of originals people like, then I saw this writing prompt about Systems, it was then I thought, people in here like systems. So I made a system based novel for the first time,it won the prompt, and at the beginning it was doing really well, it actually got to the point that it was almost contracted, but at the last hurdle it didn't make it. Still I persisted a bit in writing it. Then I started getting bad reviews, which made me less passionate about my work, still I continued, then I noticed my work was slowly going away from the top 50 and then it was barely on the top 100. It was then another opportunity arise, another writing prompt about school life. I had an idea for a school life setting for the longest time, and I thought now was a good time to show it to others.

                Not only did I win the writing prompt which I gain SS, the work I made was three times more popular than my system based novel. The people in webnovel was starting to change so I needed to change my writing style as well. So now that novel adopted soldier has been at the top 15 once, and is now stuck at top 24, it's even been contracted.

                So all in all this long a** reply can only be summed up, by don't stop writing what you find interesting. and enjoy your work, and in the end your effort will be rewarded.

                  lynerparel
                  Thanks!

                  Can you expand a bit on almost contracted? Not sure how a novel gets almost contracted lol. Thought it either did or didn't =p

                    SnoozySloth Well I can't really expand much on that topic, but when you get to a certain amount of words, and your novel is popular enough webnovel reviews your novel. That's about all I can say in this topic.

                      If you're free, plz help review this one's novel [0-0]

                        Crap I turned the thread into a review requesting one.

                        SnoozySloth on a serious note, it's like... So risky to type a thesis in forum and on mobile :laughing: one time I lost 12 paragraphs of stuff I wrote on inkstone because i pulled down the screen to look for the Save button, but refreshed the screen instead. Gg.

                        lynerparel thank you! The sharing really helps.

                        When there is interest and momentum from readers, it helps support the authors (my) interest to write.

                        It feels sad when my (true) collections number has dropped for 2 days now.

                        It makes me wonder if i should terminate this story and try out another idea that should pique interest... and keep this story for another time!

                        Thanks again for sharing your journey, it really helps...!

                        For those wondering, my novel started as an imagination of a song I wrote, about "Always looking forward, never looking back to you" - friendships and relationships meaning more than power could ever mean.

                        I think I'll just go back to what I enjoy writing - not a light hearted comedy but a real, heavy, conflict filled battle story with lots of tragedy :laughing:

                        And the discovery of real friendships and love and "nakama".

                        Then I'll post my song on YouTube later.

                        https://m.webnovel.com/book/11594239806435805

                          Ierrech Keep at it. I have some readers that really love the work. The ranking is part fads. Things come and go, but if you can remain constant then that is good.

                            BabyTanuki Thanks for the encouragement!!!!

                            Though I do want to get contracted and have a change of career... lol... I do want to finish off this story first... gain the experience and finish this journey with my imaginary friends :smile:

                              Ierrech
                              Finished my review. I left it on your novel and am pasting it below. Wish I had more advice to give you on it, but I don't have much. Your writing is excellent in quality. You clearly don't lack ideas. Things I think you can improve on are:
                              1. Removing multiple perspectives for the early chapters.
                              2. Introduce less in the early chapters. Too much is going on and it's overwhelming. All in the time of a fight where not much plot development happens. Or at-least not much plot development understandable to the reader.
                              3. Thought of this one after posting my review. You may want to work on your story/plot pacing. I think your story/plot pacing is to slow for the chapters I read (first 7). I myself find this challenging as well. My 1st novel was arguably too slow paced. My 2nd novel was too fast paced in the beginning, though I think I got it just right after the first 10 chapters or so.

                              My review:
                              Note: I give 5 stars despite whatever I write below. This review is given as of 7 chapters.
                              Writing Quality 5/5: Excellent grammar, sentence structure, etc. I think this may be the first time I gave a 5/5 for writing quality on a review.
                              Updates: Don't know. New reader.
                              Story Development 3/5: It's not that the story isn't good. Because it is. It's just that I'm 7 chapters in and I still don't really know much of what's going on. What's the big goal?. The fight and backstory took 6 long chapters. There's just too much going on with little development. We're watching Sam. Just when I start to like her and develop a connection to the character, BAM! Now we're watching grandpa. Okay, let's follow that for a bit... oh. Now we're in a backstory. So much happening but so little being explained to the reader within that time.
                              Character Design 4.5/5: Characters are interesting and I like them. Especially Sam and grandpa. Could be a bit more descriptive on looks. Author is really good at describing fight scenes between characters.
                              World Background. Both 5/5 and 2.5/5: here's why. The world is interesting right from the beginning. Woah! We got magic, knights, and junk. Cool. Oh, we also have electronics such as cellphones. Oh, okay. Is it an Earth-like world? Oh, we've also got Gods and the characters are saying things that sound like Buddhist attacks to me... Yeah, I'm lost. I feel like the world has 5/5 potential. It reminds me a bit of Naruto because of the mix of tech and magic. But there's just too much going on too soon for me to absorb and process it all.

                              Advice for author. Note: These are my biased thoughts and may not necessarily be correct.
                              1. Drop the multiple perspectives at least in the beginning. We need time to get acquainted with MC and her world-view first. This has an extra benefit as well. If MC watches the beginning fight, then when Gramps and the bad guy are yelling out their weird Buddhist-sounding attacks then the MC can express confusion on having no idea what the hell is happening. Then the reader isn't lost. The reader is connecting with the MC because neither MC or reader knows what's happening. Also, now there's a reason for all or at least some of whats going on to be explained to her by grandpa after the fight is over.
                              2. Too much introduced too soon. Magic, Buddhist sounding attacks, knights, electricity, etc. This might get resolved by just getting rid of the multiple perspectives as mentioned earlier though.

                                Ierrech
                                Oh one more thing I forgot. Again, just my opinion, but I think your synopsis is way too long.

                                Ierrech
                                You're already fairly far in the story though. If it's going to make your future chapters confusing by doing a lot of editing then you may want to hold back. Perhaps keep it in mind when planning your next novel.

                                EldridSmith
                                Done. I left comments on your first three chapters with some suggestions and fixing a lot of grammar/sentence structure issues.

                                Review below:
                                Note: I give 5 stars regardless of what I write below. I wrote this review as of 7 chapters.
                                Writing Quality 3.5/5. This is the main area the novel suffers, though its still relatively easy to read. There are a lot of run-on sentences. Some poor sentence structuring. A lot of comma misuse. Still, I wouldn't let that turn you away from this novel, because it's a quick read that's easy to follow.
                                Updates: Dunno. New reader.
                                Story Development 4.5/5: We've got some interesting developments happening very quickly. It kept my interest, which is relatively rare for most novels these days. Minus half a point for unnecessary overuse of time-skips.
                                Character Design 4/5: What's the difference between Adrian and Eldrid except that one is lucky/athletic and one is fat? Their personalities and emotions need to be fleshed out more. They don't express themselves when things happen. No frowning, questioning, sarcasm, trembling/fear, etc. Despite that, I like both characters. But some potential is being wasted here.
                                World Background 5/5: I know what's happening. Things only get more interesting as you go with the introduction of Adrian's master.

                                Final thoughts: You're doing a good job. Your ideas and story pacing are both excellent. Work on grammar, sentence structure, and character emotions. Then your novel will soar in quality. I gave you some example comments in the first three chapters. I hope they help.

                                Ierrech
                                EldridSmith
                                You two may want to review each others novels. You both have almost exact opposite weaknesses and strengths.
                                In short, here is what I thought as a reader:

                                Lerrech:
                                Good:
                                - Excellent grammar and sentence structure (Seriously. Best I've seen.)
                                - Good character emotions, expressions, etc. EldridSmith, pay attention to Ierrech's fight scene between Sam and the hunter for a good combat scene. Then compare that to your fencing scene.
                                -Bad:
                                - Pacing is too slow and drawn out.
                                - Story Development is hard to follow because too much is happening despite the plot not moving forward.

                                EldridSmith
                                Good:
                                - Story Development. The pace is fast. So much happens in just a few chapters, but it isn't overwhelming to the reader at all. This novel held my interest due to the pacing and that the plot kept moving.
                                - World Background. I'm given quite a bit of information about the world without it diving into too much detail.
                                Bad:
                                - Grammar and sentence structure. It left a lot to be desired.
                                - Characters. I felt that they lack distinct emotions and personalities.

                                  SnoozySloth

                                  Ahhh that's so true... I am infected by 3 novels that I didn't realise I'm following....
                                  -LoTR (it's so long because the story moves so slow! So many descriptions but nothing happens)
                                  -Emperors domination
                                  -Wheel of time

                                  Yeah I've been reading @EldridSmith 's novel too. I think its gonna be a pretty big restructuring!

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