A friend of mine wanted to participate in the Phenomenal Author Evolution. So she asked me two weeks ago to help her to outline a story chapter by chapter.

This is what I gave her, complete with a crappy plot about a girl named Claire written by me, as an example. She writes Romance Fiction.

I used the Transformational Arc by Dara Marks. You should read her manual, it's a must for anyone interested in storytelling. It's called "Inside Story: The Power of the Transformational Arc"

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Chapter 1: Meet the Protagonist and Inciting Incident
In the first chapter introduce the protagonist, describe who he is and what he does. Then, straight to the Inciting Incident: that is the “thing” who change the status quo and give the story steam. Start showing right away what the fatal flaw is.

Claire is a NY lawyer but she's not really good at her job (Meet the Protagonist). She lose a cause in court, she was defending Paul : a chef. (Inciting Incident)

Chapter 2: Call to Action and Defining Moment
The moment when the character is faced with the idea of having to do something (CtA), and then the moment when we understand what the story is about because we discover what the character's flaw is (DM).

Claire receive news: Grand-aunt is dead and left her a dilapidated restaurant. She hoped for her to run it and continue the family tradition (Call to Action), but she refused for a lawyer career. We follow Claire in her routine and we understand she is insecure both professionally and sentimentally (Defining Moment: when the fatal flaw is set in stone).

Chapter 3: Awakening
The moment the protagonist find out life sucks and he need to do something about it, if he doesn’t take action the story will end here...

Claire is fired, without even a proper severance pay, for losing the case with Paul and so she decide to take a loan and reopen the old restaurant (Awakening). Guess who will be the chef? Paul of course.

Chapter 4 to 7(o 8, 9, 10, how much filler can you put in?): Push to breaking point
The fatal flaw of the protagonist, his old survival system, is dragging him down. The protagonist needs to change.

Part of the neighborhood doesn't want to concede a liquor license, without it the restaurant cannot survive. Paul on the other hand doesn't trust her managerial skill too much. You can use the bickering between him and her as a comic relief and to build that hate-love relationship so cliché.
Claire step by step needs to become more assertive.

Chapter 8: Moment of Enlightenment
The protagonist is changed, he fought his inner demons and won. Now he can fight life itself and punch back.

Claire helps the local committee in court to block a project to dismantle the local park and build a new building. Out of gratitude she finally obtains a liquor license.
Even with Paul things are going better and now they go on dates.

Chapter 9 to 10: Grace
Everything goes great and our protagonist is marching towards a glorious future.

Claire and Paul go on a two-days trip in Connecticut, sleep in a nice bed and breakfast run by a nice old couple and finally, that night, they hump like rabbits.

Chapter 11 to 12: Fall
Everything goes south! The worst thing possible happens.

Claire is unable to repay the loan for the renovation of the restaurant to the bank. The restaurant is closed and will be put on auction if she doesn’t pay by the end of the week.

Chapter 13: Death Experience
The change of the protagonist was not yet perfect, it was not yet complete, and now he is defeated because of this mistake.

That's to much and Claire starts again to feel insecure about herself.
The stressful situation takes a toll even with her relationship with Paul, they break up.

Chapter 14 to 15: Descent, Transformational Moment, Climax and Resolution
The protagonist is defeated by the Death Experience, he suffers the worst his inner demons can throw at him. Until the Transformational Moment, when he will understand that not everything is lost, victory can still be grabbed. He needs only a final jump, a complete change. Time for the final battle, the Climax, after which it's time for the Resolution when we get a glimpse of what life will be for him from now on. End credits.

Claire is desperate, but she is able to raise again her head. He make up with Paul and together they confront Claire’s old employers. They are able to obtain her severance pay. They pay off the loan and can open again the restaurant. Happily ever after!

Note: of course it’s a happy ending! Readers of romance fiction expect that. You don’t want to end up like the fictional writer of Misery by Stephen King, do you?

    Very interesting, but a pretty old approach, it uses what has been done since ancient times. Exposition, Climax, End. It is definitely a way to write a story and should endure a decent amount of fame. An orthodox method.

    But when you write a novel, unless you want to have only 30 chapters, I would not recommend this method, as it is usually devised for dramas (think Shakespeare, Wilde, Goethe, Hauptmann, etc.) and stand-alone books.
    Instead, to secure a long run, cutting the storyteller into intertwining arcs, which follow a completely different pattern would ben advisable.
    It may be useful for the phenomenal author contest, since I hadn’t checked out the requirements, but literature in general has moved to post modernism and is bored of the usual. We need stimulus to keep us from boredom, so I am not quite sure whether the classical approach would suffice, or seem stale.

    An interesting topic, though. Thanks for sharing

      Hyowha

      Every story use the transformational arc. It's not a manual trying to impose a method, it's a manual analyzing the way humankind always built its stories. How many words you'll write or how many instalments depends on you: the Author.

      Just think of every shonen anime, light novel or webnovel: after defeating an enemy, a more dangerous enemy will approach, and on and on and on. But every "arc" is transformation. Think of Dragon Ball here as an example.

      Then, if a story drag itself too much is because of the author trying to capitalize on it.

          ValentinaKhan
          Good point, but I agree with what Hyowha said, this is not really a guide to write web novels in a broad sense. It's more suitable for a single mini-arc, usually one with a definite antagonist/obstacle.

          Web novels often string together many of these mini-arcs. Some have antagonists, some don't (i.e. fillers, breathers, slice-of-life stuff)

          In each of these arcs, the MC would fight, get discouraged, get defeated, get back up, fight and win or get defeated and spared (again).

          The inciting incident might be contained in this arc, or exist in a previous arc (an old nemesis, old friend, etc)

          The hero might not transform at all. It might take several (dozen) arcs for him to figure out his weakness then fix it. Or the author will have to reveal new weakness so he has room for improvement. The transformation is not as cut-and-dry as in normal novels or movies.

          Each arc (in good novels) might scatter hints toward a larger antagonist behind the scene (build up for a major arc). Then the protagonist confronts this antagonist, defeats/befriends them. Then a new major arc begins.

          In fact, I would recommend web novel writers to research how TV series plots are developed, as these have much more in common with web novels than normal novels or movies.

                ValentinaKhan No, not every arc uses the transformation that you mentioned, unless you want to write a story which just rehashes itself over an over. Of which dragon ball is a great example btw.

                An arc can abruptly end in a climax, it can’t also start not with an exposition but with a climax.
                If you want to, you could have no climax at all.

                It works, because an arc does not need to be a complete story.
                The method you have listed is a way to maximize the emotional potential of a complete story, which an arc ismaili not supposed to be. Or well, not always.

                    Hyowha ImBloo

                    I repeat. Every story follows the Transformational Arc. If it doesn't it's not a story, but a teenager's wet dream.

                    The problem arises when you need to increase your words count for publishing purposes. (An average novel has around 80.000 words, by the way. 100.000 if fantasy.)

                    So, how to elongate your narrative?

                    You can do like Martin: writing a story with many POV, almost every POV a transformational arc itself.

                    You can do like Tolkien: writing the backstory of every damned tree branch. But you risk to kill your readers by the sheer amount of infodump.

                    You can do like in the Hunger Games series: writing multiple arcs but every one of them self concluding (Escaping the games, overthrowing the government, etc).

                    Or you can use some cheap tricks like in most asian narrative: Fan service, fillers, slice of life and so on.
                    In Boku No Hero Academia, as an example, the first season is a decent Transformational Arc. The second season is pure fan service for the first half and they shift the focus on Todoroki because Midoriya is an almost transformed character by now.

                    I cited four examples, they are all Transformational Arcs. They can be good developed or not, but they are.

                    It's really difficult to find a story which doesn't follow the rules.
                    (If it doesn't it's not a story, but a teenager's wet dream.)

                    Then of course parts of the arc can be modified. In a action packed story the Grace period is often omitted.

                          I've wasted a lot of time searching around for how-to's when it comes to writing fiction. It is an obvious response when someone wants to do something in the information age they're clueless or not good at. What do we do when we don't know something(how to write? How to tell a story?)? We google it, look up information, ask other people.

                          I myself have dedicated a good deal of time going through content after content of such topics and I've read most chinese web novels for male with at least a few hundred chapters translated listed on novelupdate in hope of learning how to write from them to no avail. Reading doesn't help with coming up with a story or gives you the skill to write.

                          Only through writing itself can one learn to write/tell stories.

                          Reading or any other form of media can give inspiration and stuff, but the core writing/storytelling capability of a person, that writing muscle, it only gets built up by actually writing. No amount of anything else can be a substitute.

                          I wish someone told me that when I wanted to write a long time ago. Would've saved a lot of time.

                            ValentinaKhan Alright, I wasnt planning on arguing, but since you seem adamant about your opinions, let me say mine.

                            Not. Every. Story. Follows. The. Transformation. Curve.

                            As I have stated the transformation curve is a very classical approach, which is why you will find them in many books. Most of them follow one adventure though.
                            The books you cited are the examples which prove my conjecture, as I stated a that it is used in many stories, most which are worth following. But the are stand-alone books, or simply sequels.

                            Your statement that any story that does not follow the the transformation curve is a teenagers wet dream, is a rather childish one, and an almost offensive view on the many different books. It is a complicated matter, summarized and oversimplified into a skewed narrative, which in itself is false to begin with.

                            One piece for example, doesn’t follow a transformation curve. Many arcs in One piece end in a climax, or have no end.
                            The marine ford arc ends on a climax, or the water seven arc, which is sorely an expositional arc towards Enels lobby. You will also find that the story use multiple climax and arcs whose climax would only be found in another arc.

                            Nanatsu no Taizai, is a bother example, in which you follow the Main Characters through only part of their adventure, which began a long time ago. It does not divide itself into arcs, even less does it use transformation arcs.

                            Boku No Academia is also a great example. As you said before, the later half uses does not use a transformation arc, but is still essential to the plot. Would they have gone with another transformation arc, the story would have turned predictive.

                            Clannad and other Slice of life do no follow the arc.

                            To shift away from anime’s, many detective stories and thrillers do not use the curve that you mentioned. More often than not, you find their climax at the end of the book, in which wither the culprits is revealed, or maybe even not.

                            A comedy, such a story the office, or friends does not follow the steps you mentioned.

                            Many fables such Odyssey and the tale of Gilgamesh do not follow the steps you mentioned.

                            Does that make these stories any lessons worth than they are?

                            The point which we are currently arguing is a point which has been talked about since ancient times. Gerhart Hauptmann, a representative for naturalism (the era which believed life should be represented in a natural way, instead of forcing a linear outline such a story the transformation curve) mentioned in his drama “Die Ratten”, the importance of moving a plot point beyond a climax and how the old approach has turned stale. The book went on to become a classic.

                            I’m not saying that a transformation arc is bad, but that it is not a necessity. In an online novel, which thrives from having many chapters, the curve is not advisable as it turns your story predicatble and repetitive a problem many novels her have btw, due to using the arc (find villain, get stronger beat villain. Repeat with different names)

                            EDIT: I’m sorry if I may have come of as rude, your statement about “teenagers wet dream” had made me a bit mad.

                                Hyowha To shift away from anime’s, many detective stories and thrillers do not use the curve that you mentioned. More often than not, you find their climax at the end of the book, in which wither the culprits is revealed, or maybe even not.

                                I'd like to pinpoint many parts of your post but let's start with this, because I'm not sure what we are talking about anymore.

                                "you find their climax at the end of the book"

                                Have I ever said something different than the climax is supposed to be at the end of the story?

                                    BravelyNovice

                                    You don't learn how to write by writing. In the same way you don't learn how to build a house by putting a brick on another brick.

                                    You need to learn the trade by others first and then you need to do a lot of exercise.
                                    For writing: you read the manuals and only then you start writing.

                                        ValentinaKhan
                                        Was the curve you are referring to is the classic way to write a playscript, known as a 5-way act triangle, in which the climax is in the middle?

                                        https://www.google.com/search?q=play+5+acts&client=ms-android-samsung&source=android-browser&prmd=ivn&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiW8cfpo9nfAhURfnAKHSilASQQ_AUoAXoECA0QAQ

                                        EDIT: Hey I saw my mistake, the whole time I thought you were talking about something else.
                                        But hey, this also shows that there are different ways of structuring a story, not just using the transofrmatoon arc. So my point still stands

                                            ValentinaKhan I repeat. Every story follows the Transformational Arc. If it doesn't it's not a story, but a teenager's wet dream.

                                            Really? Wow! Who said that? Must be a powerful Sith, I'll bet!

                                            So, how to elongate your narrative?
                                            You can do like Martin: writing a story with many POV, almost every POV a transformational arc itself.
                                            You can do like Tolkien: writing the backstory of every damned tree branch. But you risk to kill your readers by the sheer amount of infodump.
                                            You can do like in the Hunger Games series: writing multiple arcs but every one of them self concluding (Escaping the games, overthrowing the government, etc).

                                            #1 Lol, were you too lazy to google the name of the Hunger Games author?
                                            #2 See what the problem is with your examples? None of them are web novels. See, with a title called "how to write a webnovel..." I expect you to stick to that format when citing examples.

                                            Or you can use some cheap tricks like in most asian narrative: Fan service, fillers, slice of life and so on.

                                            It's really difficult to find a story which doesn't follow the rules.
                                            (If it doesn't it's not a story, but a teenager's wet dream.)

                                            Again with the generalization. And you're either not looking hard enough, or not looking in the right places.
                                            #1. Movies are stories, too, right? I can point you to a bunch of war movies that have no transforming protagonists. They don't change, they just survive. They are spared a horrible death not by overcoming character flaws or whatever, but sometimes by sheer dumb luck or outside intervention.

                                            Or, certain movies just depict a snapshot of someone's life, i.e. over the course of a few days. Example: Inside Lleywin Davis. The protagonist doesn't transform. He just... exists. There's not inciting incident, we just see his struggles, and at the end, nothing is resolved. His life continues.

                                            Or, the Dollars Trilogy by Sergio Leone. You can argue that The Man with No Name doesn't transform at all throughout the trilogy.

                                            I can go on and on, but you get the point.

                                            #2. Look at The King's Avatar, the #4 (Edit, #5 now :() on Translated story ranking and tell me: How did the protagonist transform?
                                            Most people would scratch their head at that question. Sure he has flaws (1 or 2), but it doesn't affect the plot in any way. He has the same personality in nearly 2000 chapters. The thing that does the most transforming is his umbrella.

                                            And I dare you to say that novel is a teenager's wet dream. If you do, then (1) I applaud your ballsiness and (2) Congratulations, you just alienated the very community you set out to "educate."

                                            What you've outlined in your "guide" is not a webnovel. It's just a story cut down to bite-sized chunks. I'm not dissing your guide. I'm just saying: it doesn't fit a web novel.

                                            I suggest changing the title to "One approach to writing fictions." It's more reasonable and open to discussion. Assuming that's what you're trying to be.

                                            When I saw the thread, I thought it was an invitation to a discussion. However, it looks like you're just here to dispense wisdom and expect to be responded with praises and thanks. If that's the case, I'm gonna peace out and go back to verbalizing my teenage wet dream.

                                                Folks:

                                                Character-driven stories

                                                Plot-driven stories

                                                I don't think there's only those two types, really, and a story can of course be both at the same time.

                                                  i legit thought webnovel doesn't have plots and have just a basic knowledge about what should happen then think of what could happen then just add it then if you paused on doing this part just bring it up again and stuff 😂😂

                                                    ImBloo

                                                    I sense you don't have the tools to sustain this conversation, so I'm going to simply point out what you got wrong in any example you made.

                                                    You can look up for the definition I'll put in italic with Google, I don't have time to waste teaching angry kids the abc of storytelling.
                                                    (If any other apart from this crybaby want to know, I'll gladly explain.)

                                                    Inside Llewyn Davis is a Transformational Arc, but our Llewyn is a Tragic Hero.

                                                    The Dollars Trilogy aren't stories, they are situations

                                                    The King's Avatar is a comeback sport story, like Rocky and Any Given Sunday.

                                                    I add:
                                                    Of course the The King's Avatar is not a teenager's wet dream. A teenager's wet dream is when your character has everything and nothing happen. Something along the lines of "I'm the coolest kid in school, girls want me and boys want to be like me. Forever and ever. No ifs, buts, or ands."

                                                    Then, is TKA a good story? Objectively not.
                                                    But, but...it has a Transformational Arc? Yes, but it's poorly developed.

                                                    Don't get me wrong. I like the story, but if popular=objectively good, then we should gather every Sunday in a dedicated building to read a page from 50 Shades or Twilight.

                                                        ValentinaKhan

                                                        Yes, Popular = Good
                                                        What other method, is valid if not Popular = good.

                                                        Sounds like your disconnected, from the world.
                                                        While every novel is not meant for everyone, I can say 50 shades of gray is one of the best novels of our time.
                                                        And I 100% hate that fact, but it has a movie and is a best seller...
                                                        Calling it 'Trash,' because you do not like the topic, is just not being objective.

                                                        Also calling I'm Bloo a crybaby... You sound like a little girl who got slapped by daddy.


                                                            ValentinaKhan You seem to have lost touch with reality, as you perpetuate your opinions as facts.
                                                            When you reach a point where you believe that popular =/= good, you have automatically distanced yourself from an objective viewpoint, and instead are spouting nonsense about what YOU define is good or bad, based on YOUR standards, not much unlike the internet warriors, or the old men telling tales on their armchair, who know nothing but feel the need to undermine those around them.

                                                            There are many resources which define whether a transformation arc i should needed or not, but that there is even a debate to begin with means that a transformation arc is not the ultimate gospel.
                                                            You speak as if it is the law, such as how gravity bind us to the earth, but you fail to see that it is not the case.

                                                            If you look again at your past arguments you may realize that you have interwoven yourself into a tale of bullshit. And I don’t really understand where you find your audacity to judge upon other stories with such a self righteous disposition.

                                                            There have been many examples given as to why your theory is untrue, so I won’t repeat myself.
                                                            But just for good measure I will send you a link, https://www.scriptmag.com/features/craft-case-character-arcs

                                                            Get off your fucking high horse, can’t you see no one agrees with your statement?

                                                                Hyowha Coincidentally, I've just been reading about narcissists who have no capacity to understand they could be wrong (read on, please, I don't mean you). It's sad in theory, but if you're in any kind of relationship with them, it's anything but; it can be downright scary. Something about the OP's insistence on his/her POV rang alarm bells, but maybe I'm just being jumpy. P.S. They don't like being called out or shown up. P.P.S. They like feeding off the negative reactions of others (it's best that we leave them alone). We should all be informed of these kind of stuff so we could keep ourselves protected -- just my two cents :)

                                                                P.P.P.S. Might be advisable to lock this thread soon.

                                                                    Acutelittletrap Just to play devil's advocate, but many "classics" were unpopular at their time of publication. A couple examples are "Brave New World" by Aldous Huxley and "Moby-Dick" by Herman Melville. Of course there are the few that made it to the banned book list like "To Kill a Mocking Bird" and "The Grapes of Wrath" that are considered classics today as well. If you claim these are not good, well, there are certainly enough people who would disagree. I'm sure if we give "Twilight" and "50 Shades [...]" another decade or two, they will be long forgotten by all but our generation. I'm also certain that the classics of our time will be some obscure books read by few. Additionally, I highly doubt any of the webnovels we see today will become classics either despite my enjoyment of them today.

                                                                    Random plug: My hope is that R. Lee Smith can get some recognition, but with the triggering nature of her works, it'll never happen.

                                                                        KoraL this is exactly what I had in mind, thank you for voicing my thoughts which I couldn’t exactly describe.

                                                                            Acutelittletrap
                                                                            Popular is different from objectively good.
                                                                            If you don't think there are tools to objectively analyze stories and you think is only about personal enjoyment en masse, say so straightforwardly.

                                                                            Let's agree to disagree.

                                                                            Hyowha
                                                                            Do you want a links war? There you go:
                                                                            https://www.scriptmag.com/features/craft-case-character-arcs#comment-279256

                                                                            I already found you at fault of not reading what I wrote with the Climax in 5 acts vs 3 acts thing. Now I found you at fault again with this simple matter: have I ever said something different from "How to write a story"?

                                                                                  KoraL

                                                                                  I would never claim, that books have to be 'Popular,' when they first come out.
                                                                                  [I have never read these books.]
                                                                                  There is many reasons why that can happen, [Political= Bible] [Objective of the book=Satanic Text.] [Content in the book= Extremist viewpoints.]

                                                                                  A good example might be if someone made a book in the 1850s, about the pros and cons of slavery. This book might not have become popular until freeing slaves became a topic in politics.

                                                                                  But overall, unless your book is meant to changes peoples mind about something, or control a certain type of people/person.
                                                                                  I would say that the lack of being popular is an issue.

                                                                                      ValentinaKhan
                                                                                      Please, don't use a random comment on a random site to prove your point. Otherwise, it is like the anti-vaxxers. They found one studies that said that vaccine caused diseases/mutations/random things and now they rather allowed the survival of near-extinct diseases. This is supposedly a friendly forum, you can express your OPINION about a subject, your OPINION is by definition SUBJECTIVE and therefore, doesn't allow you to bash anyone disagreeing with you. In the real world, nothing is really objective so the very fact that you use that term for something like a novel or a story is disturbing.

                                                                                          ValentinaKhan I really am shocked speechless. Have you read the article?

                                                                                          And I explained focus you how a climax is not needed at the end and can be placed also in the middle, as evidenced by the link I send you, so I hardly agree that’s you found me at fault. You need to stop cherry picking points that suit your case and devolve them into straw hat arguments only so you can preach your skewed world view.

                                                                                          And please, when you link my article back, at least read though it or just say you do not agree. Instead you find fault in a place which has been answered in the given article.

                                                                                          I will just leave it at that, feel free to argue back, and I will stay silent.
                                                                                          Take it as you will, but there has been enough posts on this forum which the readers can pull their opinions from. As we both won’t find agreement, and I respect your opinion, even though you are wrong.

                                                                                              Innovation

                                                                                              I bought a gun. I aimed that gun at a target. I fired. The bullet instead of going forward went backward and hit me in the face. May I say that gun wasn't objectively well made? Or is only my subjective opinion?

                                                                                              Now, change the gun with a book or any other narrative work. Something change?

                                                                                                  Hyowha

                                                                                                  Bloody Jesus on his cross! Did you read the comment I linked you? Story is a technical word which describe a specific kind of narrative. The article didn't metion any stories, but situations. Clear enogh?

                                                                                                  And again, Climax in 3-acts in not the same thing as in the 5-acts. What is a climax in a 5 acts is called Midpoint in the 3 acts.

                                                                                                      ValentinaKhan No. But is the gun really well made? However, that gun can only fire at 100 meters, maybe 200 meters. I wanted a gun to fire at 1km so for me subjectively, that gun is not well made, it is useless. I can use the opposite, you bring me a sniper rifle when I want a small pistol that can fit in my pocket. Both of them are useful in specific situations, but only one of them is well made for my need. That's my point and that is for a concrete object. A book is based on the imagination of its readers, something that is not even measurable. that's why I say that a book can't objectively be described. You could gather the 100 best writers and have them discuss a book but none of them will be able to say those arrogant words. Even making a book better for 90% of people could make it worse for the rest.

                                                                                                          @WEBNOVEL_OFFICIAL
                                                                                                          Lock please, no clear objective is found here. I think in general Valentina has pushed her viewpoint to hard and has aliennated the very people she meant to 'teach.'

                                                                                                          I suspect her of being a Narcissist, which is not really a bad person just a bit of an ego problem.

                                                                                                            Innovation

                                                                                                            There's a difference between saying a gun is well made and a gun respond to my personal taste. You may prefer a gun able to shoot at 100m, I one able to shoot at 200m. They are both objectively well made guns, they do their job, none of them shoot backwards.

                                                                                                            Now, let's suppose we read a romance webnovel which proclaim to be a story. A story by definition implies a Transformational Arc of the character. We discover in reality our character not only doesn't change (if the character fails to change it may become a tragic story, we are still following the tranformational arc), but also that he doesn't need to change. That's not an objectively well made story. It's not even a story.

                                                                                                            It may be a situation, but that's difficult for romance. Situation are usually used for genres such as adventure or action. (This paragraph is only a plus 'cause I picked romance as an example).

                                                                                                            But...
                                                                                                            We enjoy the tale nonethless, why? Because it's personal taste.

                                                                                                            Nothing wrong with personal taste, but just because you like something it doesn't mean it's objectively good. The contrary applies as well.

                                                                                                            Or do you think there are no tools or methodology to analyze a narrative work?

                                                                                                                My final two cents.

                                                                                                                Webnovels cannot sacrifice popularity because they are meant to provide income chapter by chapter. This makes it intrinsically more difficult to spend time in some of the phases since the webnovel may be dropped before anything "exciting" occurs. A successful webnovel must be full of hooks and cliff hangers (to the chagrin of the reader) until the story or the author has a stable enough following to actually develop stories in the manner prescribed.

                                                                                                                  KoraL What you said is eye-opening, thanks for that.

                                                                                                                  Also, guys, as entertaining as all this is, you're just letting yourselves get sucked dry. They have no capacity to admit they might be wrong and/or that another person's perspective that runs counter with theirs might be right (as in incapable, okay?), so if that's your aim, you are seriously wasting your life. Take it from someone who wasted years.

                                                                                                                  @CKtalon Don't feed the troll, right?

                                                                                                                      a year later

                                                                                                                      ValentinaKhan

                                                                                                                      Long Shot activated. Valentina, you there?

                                                                                                                      Anyway, it has been over a year since I have been reviewed. Recently I was going through some stuff and found what you have reviewed.

                                                                                                                      In the year since, went around a little and felt like I have broadened my horizons somewhat.

                                                                                                                      I realized some stuff. Sometimes it is not about the title or the so called years of experience.

                                                                                                                      This concept that was put forth- was it meaningful? Did it have content? Can it hold up?

                                                                                                                      It is quite rare for some stuff to stand the test of time- and in unexpected places too.

                                                                                                                      While I may not agree with method of delivery sometimes- and not everything is about the ends justifying the means- most people can appreciate a good play.

                                                                                                                      Welp, just throwing a pebble out here. All the best.

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