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soymilku The first time I got into chinese novel was from M☆sty Cl☆ud Translation, personally I like Mesmerizing Ghost Doctor and Genius Doctor Black Belly Miss if you interested in cultivation and op female MC
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for jp light novel/web novel I usually either read the one's from shinsori or Incar☆se Jeal☆usy(she has a handful of stories with hilarious fMC)
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Sakura_Natsume Programmers create websites, apps, applications, . . .
We programmers also have to secure our websites which we create. That means we also should have the basic mindset of a hacker. Because we can't just create websites and that's it. We also have to check if it is secure so hackers can't steal data.

For example this will happen to bad programmers:
They check in their code if the typed password equals the correct password.
like this: SELECT . . FROM . . WHERE realPassword = typedPassword.
Compiled it will look like this: . . . WHERE 'monkey' = 'monkey';
For noob programmers this looks okey and works, but not for good programmers.
Good programmers can see that hackers will attack that and do something called SQL-Injection.
They don't enter a password like a sane person would but they enter code into the password-field.
In the code it still looks like this:
like this: SELECT . . FROM . . WHERE realPassword = typedPassword.
and now image if he typed: ' or 1=1
instead of a password into the field.
Compiled it will look like this: . . . WHERE 'monkey' = '' or 1 = 1;
It could be read as: if the typedPassword equals the realPassword or if 1=1, then he is the admin.
And surely 1 equals 1 so the program says its correct and bam access as admin.

I think the difference between hacker and programmer is that hackers specialise more on destroying and programmers more on creating and keeping things safe.
But surely hackers can also create things like programmers. And good programmers can also hack dumb websites of noobs.

NineNeatherBird I feel like that is a way simplified version of programmers. Not every programmer is all about security. Some programmer are just web designers, they do not ever touch the back end that handles the validation of passwords or even the security of the database which holds the passwords.

Point being, not all programmers are network security programmers, and definitely not Information Secuirty experts or programmers. So no the difference between a programmer and a hacker is not the "keeping things safe" or "destroying". Hackers are programmers, the definition of hacking is as:

hack1
hak/
verb
gerund or present participle: hacking

1.
cut with rough or heavy blows.
"hack off the dead branches"
synonyms:	cut, chop, hew, lop, saw; slash
"Stuart hacked the padlock off"
2.
use a computer to gain unauthorized access to data in a system.
"they hacked into the bank's computer"
3.
informal
manage; cope.
"lots of people leave because they can't hack it"
synonyms:	cope, manage, get on/by, carry on, come through, muddle along/through; More

Now you may say Hackers can be responsible and more focused on destroying, but in a literal sense they are programmers who are using a computer to gain unauthorized access to a data in a system. If a programmer has authorized access to a system it's just a regular guy programming. So you see if you had a dude who only deals with the web design, a normal programmer not in info sec not part of network security no access to the database....if he starts to use his programming knowledge to gain access to the database....then he becomes a hacker. Simple as that. Programmers do not even have an obligation to make sure their code is secure, it would be nice, but on the other end that is usually some other programmers job, with his slew of team members.

But what do I know? I'm probably one of those bad programmers you mentioned who doesn't care as long as it works, cause at the end of the day the security portion is not my job lol.

soymilku Also I am now lurking, and I do not eat food that smells bad, if you say it smells good I might try it but generally I don't usually like it. The closest I ever got was leche flan, that some kid brought for her birthday at school, it was disgrossting! Never again.