WEBNOVEL_OFFICIAL But I wish u still has the ad watch method though
Introducing the Premium program BETA, giving you advanced chapters!
Flaffy
That's why I'm not being critical, because as you said it's all for free. We have nothing invested in this, both of us.
I am answering posts here because its been annoying me for the longest time. From novel updates up to this announcement. Instead of people interacting genuinely with fellow readers, we have dozens of other people just maliciously bashing on it.
Also no one said anything about paying for SS, but you did. "I" was the one that said why would you pay for SS. Also sorry I'm not like you who's assuming things to happen. I react when they happen and I expect things quietly.
Sure I'm not removing or preventing you from your complaints, just help me understand your complaints.
Don't also spread false information. Grateful? for qidian?for what? LOL
I'm just countering your complaints that are full of malicious intentions.
For you to even think for a second that I'm some kind of qidian supporter lol. You wish.
You're being critical of something that is not yet happening, like I said earlier. You don't stop trying to live just because you're going to die later now do you?
"Well someone call Billdoor, the shiz is happening! What did you say before you naysayer? Cannot happen, Not anytime soon? Well it looks like Qidian bout to be rolling in some more dough to pay for those translators and editors."
From you, reading from the innocent bystander reading, it's conveying that from now on I have to give money to read because qidian has gone greedy with money.
Ah, I'm tired now of constantly trying to understand the point of your complaints. When you can still read chapters for free, you can even read premium chapters if you have earned enough SS. For the being critical part, I'm not really sure, since, I have not come across of anyone being critical when donation box appeared, maybe they'll deliberately slow down the translation so they can hype the bar. I have not come across anyone being critical when they started patreon advance chapters, what if they increased the tiers and changed the reading progress, used the patreons locking system to completely lock us out?
You will smile when SS and future chapters are forever behind a paywall? That means you're either a sadist or just gloating of how smart you are and figured everything out. :D
Oh sorry, I misread that part. Why would you tell me to be grateful? I will be grateful, at least now there will be no people like you :D That keeps spreading fear even in the only place where people can escape their apathetic and cruel reality.
I didn't know there's a website/company critic here. Sorry xD
Okay that's for my entertainment for today. Thank you for participating as always, Have a nice day everyone(even if some people are crying for SS). :D
Rokuman_24 Am hoping they will not charge for updates since they will have steady revenue i the monthly membership system .
Elephantgun lets the the result of their improvements, cause every time they try to change something, readers just getting there head already to the host company..
WEBNOVEL_OFFICIAL So I have already purchased a lot of spirit stones. With those, I can still see the premium chapters right? Or do I need to become a premium member now to see the most recent chapters? Is there a way to convert ss to a month worth of premium?
Flaffy It's too hard to deal with "Noire"s type.. don't bother...
Elephantgun well we dont have full knoweldge regarding to the current situation that translator have been go thought untill now that is why they need more strategies to sustain themselves and be more productive on what they were doing..
Rokuman_24 Agreed, all I am asking for is to have a say on how I would like to spend my money.
Buying stones is a microtransaction and we all know how that ends (EA sports).
Elephantgun Yeah, but lets try here to be optimistic on this one hehehe
I honestly think it's a good program, people who want to keep reading for free 'can' read for free with just less chapters available directly, spirit stone are still available to read some more premium chapters..
In the end its better than a paywall since it doesn't block any kind of readers.. so what's the problem of those haters?
~ "We can't have our novel for free so screw off?"
... The world doesn't work like that.. authors have to earn money, translators and editors also have to earn money.. and behind that Qidian have to earn money, non cancerous ads enough to finance all of that for people to make a living? I'm sorry but no it's not possible..
~ "Why not keep the current system with people buying spirit stone?"
... Well, they didn't remove that, it's just that's its not sufficient, what about the novels that aren't premium, or simply what about the chapters that are already fully available without spirit stone? in your opinion the author should just earn money the moment the chapter is made available and not later?.. take the movies industry for example, those the DVDs are made available for free after their initial passage to the movie theater? no? so why should their be differences with novels?
Don't want to say more, haters gotta hate, it's a maxim since eons, it will never change.
So as a free user you cannot read all you want. Since a chapter costs more than your daily reward, so unless you pay, you wont be able to read the recent chapters. we all knew it was coming, and i have no problem with this business model. i just hope the premium translations will be of premium quality, if i see even one machine translator or some other crap, then its a boycott! while you are at it, remove the spirit stones cost of extra chapters of non premium translations.
Saint you break the wall man. This is so self-explanatory, but it has just the advantage of it limits the times of chapters or its availability to be readable in a short period of time.. but yeah I just found out that this webnovel has a wall of fame of something but i did not just checked it yet. however.. yeah..
I'm not even going to address Noire anymore since he is obviously in his head.
I wish this was discord so I could @Everyone so I am just going to call on @Cilliez my muse, Am I the crazy one here? Just to make sure let me just go through my original post....
Flaffy Well someone call Billdoor, the shiz is happening! What did you say before you naysayer? Cannot happen, Not anytime soon? Well it looks like Qidian bout to be rolling in some more dough to pay for those translators and editors.
Okay, I am obviously very happy to shove it to Billdoor about the Full-time translators and editors.... ok happy not bashing at all..so maybe this is not what made Noire become a dick. Let's explore somewhere else shall we?
Flaffy Cue random rant and rave about things that need to be fixed with the money brought by such shamelessness:
Be sure to make a process that for every novel, there must be a Translator and a SEPARATE! Editor.... make that the first priority for this full-time job listing stuff.
Okay this looks like me giving a SUGGESTION on how to make the premium users feel better and a nice place to put qidians new found money yes? This cannot be what made Noire turn into a dickwad.
Flaffy Like seriously...it's important. And don't forget to get people to go back through the chapters and fix those horrible mistakes that have yet to be fixed. I see Release that Witch is on there yeah as a premium? Well I won't be buying none of that, the following threads have received no comments as to fixing the translation mistakes. Maybe you didn't notice, it's probably about time to do a clean sweep before you make something premium. And are we guaranteed that Release that Witch won't have anymore glaring mistakes? I'm just saying, if I am paying for it, it should at least be proofread right?
https://forum.webnovel.com/d/1338-release-that-witch-chapter-357
https://forum.webnovel.com/d/1335-release-that-witch-chapter-344
OH OH Maybe it was the only complaint I made about having to fix translation mistakes? But isn't that their job? To give good translations? Am I wrong? Is it not? OMG QIDIAN WHY? I didn't know you change professions. I am truly sorry @Noire for thinking that Qidian was responsible for fixing it's own translation mistakes. Truly I am so sorry for accusing Qidian of asking people to pay for translation mistake ridden novels when that's not even their job. I am so sorry. Deeply ashamed of my misgiving.
Flaffy Very serious question coming up, what is the difference between a Premium for Free? And a regular Free user? Is it just that one extra chapter? that you don't have to buy with SS? I am highly confused....is this just some random ploy to make people think they are included when in reality they are just like every other poor sap? I feel like it is.
This probably also factored in cause you know a confused person often times will not sound completely sane when asking a question. Qidian has a habit of not answering serious questions like wtf a contribution ranking is.... so why would they tell me the blatant answer to a question about the difference between free premium users and just a regular user? wait wait they probably won't right? So I must have speculated about it being a conspiracy as a joke. OMG A JOKE!!! Did @Noire take my joke to heart? I am so deeply sorry conspiracy jokes just aren't funny anymore I'll be sure to inform my inner self not to make petty jokes about conspiracies.
Flaffy It's funny cause Release that Witch is legit the only novel I really read that's premium. It's so weird that it's Premium cause every chapters it seems i find a translation mistake. Not really clean enough to pay for but whatever.
And that the very end of my post I insert a battle with my inner feelings should I care about Release that Witch? Is this a good thing, will Release that Witch increase in quality now? This might be the only novel on Qidian I will ever pay for because the authors story is just so amazingly formatted that it could fit right on the shelf next to Mistborn in my bedroom. What a shame Noire thinks that I wish to Bash Qidian when in reality this last line wasn't even really about them. He even almost labeled me as anti-qidian:
Noire Okay, there are so many anti-qidian in a qidian forum it's hilarious(well not that many)
Which he thinks is funny....like...should I feel offended folks? I think he was actually taking a stab at me.
Noire Seriously, good job guys, good job. Support your favorite website instead of maliciously hanging around here xD. Whisper Yeah they say they support and love that website so much, that they keep reading there while having their adblocks on, talk about being a hypocrite. whisper
Does that not scream, "Omg you should be grateful, you are such hypocrite, you do blah blah blah". Was he talking about me? Or was he just talking....I don't know so what do i do? Well I try to set the record straight by saying how much I did not appreciate his banter, so that he can clearly see I am not laughing.
Flaffy No one said anything about paying for SS, and I never said I was, so please do not spread false information without reading correctly. I never use any of my SS and I signed up last year, I only have 450, because they kept expiring and I do not do daily check-ins cause I'm not rabid reader like everyone else seems to be so please, stop with the accusations and assumptions, it is not appreciated.
So Who assumed what? I assumed he was talking to me cause he @'ed me then went on some warpath about antiqidian users. Then I tell him not to assume things of me and what does he do?
He sends a Long ass message to deny everything I was saying ABOUT MY VIEWS, its okay to disagree with someone's view, but to say you can't understand something as simple as "Release that Witch needs to get better quality translation if it's going to be paid for" is a bit of a stretch for me to even understand. I would like to note that all the rest of my two messages were responses about what quality is...and what it means to actually pay for something, for me, defending my view that "Realease that Witch needs to get better translation quality if it's going to be paid for", so you see who is assuming what? because i feel like Noire had his head shoved so far he could not see the line of words clearly just talking about something simple like increases translation quality....
MMORPG: Rebirth of the Legendary Guardian is Premium worthy? had to double check because i didn't dare believe it. i saw RTW there and i'm fine with that, its an interesting story with a good translator, but MMORPG: Rebirth of the Legendary Guardian?????????????????????????????? have you seen the translation quality?
I'll just wait until they show how many premiuk chapters will be unlocked each day. They said that it's one or more chapters so as long they dont cut weekly release schedule by unlocking more than one premium chapter for RtW then I'm fine with it.
haw a feeling This vill flow beater too just ad premium and thos that get it will Not haw too see any Commercial stuff
will defenetly loos many readers thx to this specialty if they remove the Normal free chapters 2
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Ehm, if it's actually staying at 7 spirit stones (well, I just looked at one chapter from RTW) and the sources of free spirit stones stay the same, then this seems super reasonable imho... I don't see what the big fuss is all about?
That said, @WEBNOVEL_OFFICIAL, I'm a little confused. I would've thought chapter ad watching would be able to give you more money? In fact, I often used to do the ad watch instead of using my free spirit stones so that I could get you guys some money... I guess the per-chapter economics just don't quite work out unless you get way more users?