Enlightened_Being

So you want to see the paywall happen because freemium is bad because it gives extra benefits to those who willing to pay? That is like Spotify free users complaining that those paying $9.99 a month to Spotify can skip ads and have offline listening.

If you are in favor of paywall over freemium......Don't start complain when Qidian International next year start charging 4 spirit stones ($0.04) per chapter after the first free 100 chapters.

It's very likely to happen unless those in charge change their mind.

      UntaintedByPurity

      It's not free stuff. Someone has to pay for it. It's pretty obvious that free reading with ads is not generating enough revenue to offset the cost. Qidian International will implement a change. It has two realistic options. 1) Paywall 2) Freemium service where all novels are read to read with ads; $5.99/month to skip ads, read ahead several chapters, extra power stones to vote.

      And when did I ever advocate for a paywall?

      I want www.webnovel.com to have freemium services like Wattpad, Spotify, Crunchyroll, Viki, Dramafever etc...
      Free novels to read for everyone (ad-supported).
      Those who want to skip ads, read ahead several chapters, get extra power stones to vote can pay $5.99 a month for this Premium membership.

          then please praise your "freemium" choice alone in your own forum or go somewhere else, no one wants to read this bullshit here. Those are not even viable solutions you propose, we want to leech as long as possible without paying anything, qidian won't read any of your threads anyway so please spare myself and other the headache of reading your titles....thanks and stop it

            Billdoor

            You wrote that you "want to leech as long as possible without paying anything" yet you don't want freemium to happen?

            Isn't that hypocrisy?

            You want free novels. Freemium that I advocate gives you free novels to read. But you seem to hate it.

              Billdoor

              Unlike you, I care about about the readers, the authors and the translators.

              I advocate freemium because it is good for all parties involved. Paywall will drive 80-90% of readers away.

              You wrote that you "want to leech as long as possible without paying anything." Which mean you obviously don't care.

              If you care about novels, why don't you go to the Report Translation Mistakes like I do and report some typos you found. So that all readers will benefit. I have reported over 200 typos on that Forum, which improve the reading experience for all readers. What have you done to help readers?

                good that you report your mistakes and good that you feel your proposals are good, than please go back to your imaginary world and stay there. I just can repeat Carters point, why even advocate something to pay if there is NO fuckin reason to do it. if qidian is planning to do it than you can make your proposals but without even an inkling of incentive you post bullshit on the forum over and over and over and over... same thing with 50 million new posts to the ebook posts... once is enough we now it.... once in this thread is enough... but you have to push this bullshit up and up again that I have the urge to puke every day you push it up again.

                So if you want to make some suggestion...send it per mail at qidian and don't bother the rest, I haven't seen one person agreeing or even contributing to your site here in your threads... so please... fuck off, thanks

                edit: leeching without paying is hypocrisy? why shouldn't it be? I don't advocate paying or supporting qidian and on the other side want everything free... im pretty clear on my opinion that I want it for free, maybe you should google the meaning of the word before using it

                  Billdoor

                  leeching without paying is not hypocrisy.

                  It's hypocrisy to say that you want free novels. I propose free novels with freemium. You don't like it.

                  That is like a person who like free music streaming. Spotify has free music streaming through freemium. That person still don't like it. Hence, that person is a hypocrite.

                  p.s.
                  If my threads bother you, don't read it.

                  Qidian International is going to implement paywall ($0.04 per chapter) in 2018.

                  I believe it is a bad idea. I believe readers do have certain influence on the direction of this site.

                  If most people are in favor of freemium over paywall, it might have some positive influence in changing their minds.

                    yeah ill try to ignore your shit threads, no sources posted for your claims and still calling people out :)

                    maybe on rare occasion I come again and shit on your theories that will not favor the free readers. But please come out of your bubble and think you have influence on a multibillion dollar company that already shits on their reader base here by not implementing ANY suggestions or even answering to anything

                      Billdoor

                      why even advocate something to pay if there is NO fuckin reason to do it. if qidian is planning to do it than you can make your proposals

                      Qidian International is going to implement a paywall ($0.04) in 2018.

                          ssound5rs I can claim next year will be the end of the world, is it now a fact?
                          Please provide us with credible sources for your claims. Only because you write something it won't come true, I have to shatter that dream.

                              Billdoor

                              I never say I have any influence.

                              But all the readers do.

                              If 90% vote in favor of freemium and only 10% vote in favor of paywall, Qidian executives will think twice before implementing a paywall.

                              Especially since freemium work very well in the West. Thanks to freemium, Spotify has 60 million paying subscribers worldwide. Freemium work very well in the West...Why not try it first instead of paywall? If failed, QI can always revert to paywall.

                                  Billdoor

                                  Qidian charges its readers in China. What make you think Qidian won't charge readers in the West?

                                  As for why the paywall is coming....

                                  1) Qidian is a profit-driven business. Ads is not enough revenue.
                                  2) Spirit stones is exactly the same as Qidian Points in China. Users buy Qidian points in China to purchase chapters.

                                  3) Readers in China has to pay. How would it look if Qidian novels is free in the West but paid in China to paying readers?
                                  4) CKtalon said that Qidian is committed to free till at least the end of 2017.

                                      so if you have no real sources and only hypotheses please stop it, its not use to make a paywall with such a low reader base that they have right now.

                                      So you tell me you make such a huge effort and try to think for solution for a thing that

                                      isn't sure to happen right now
                                      will not take you into consideration anyway
                                      will have a whole department of people drafting ideas about anyway
                                      has already precedence in china

                                      man you must have nothing to do...last post here, to much bs here again

                                        ssound5rs Thanks to freemium, Spotify has 60 million paying subscribers worldwide. Freemium work very well in the West...Why not try it first instead of paywall? If failed, QI can always revert to paywall.

                                        And thanks to Free service, Facebook makes 27.64 billion USD in 2016

                                            ssound5rs
                                            Srsly?
                                            If it ever becomes paywalled
                                            I m gonna either switch to pirate sites or switch hobbies....
                                            I have limited pocket money
                                            Can't waste it on reading novels mediocre novels.
                                            Also 0.04$ per Chapter paywall is just too much. No thx
                                            That was worst suggestion ever...

                                            The current ads paywall is better.

                                                ssound5rs
                                                Thing with This kind of stuff is.....it doesn't get immediate returns but little amount every particular interval....
                                                Calculate how much earning after 10 years...if QI actually manages to increase users to 10 times what it is right now....

                                                    Indiboy

                                                    That's why I wrote that a paywall is a bad idea.

                                                    Freemium is much better.

                                                    Freemium will be able to attract 10 times more readers to www.webnovel.com compare to a paywall.

                                                        ssound5rs I think the current www.webnovel.com ads system was much better than Freemium.

                                                        QI give us around `+15` free SS each day to skip the ads.
What? not much SS to read the bonus chapter?
Us, the poor don't mind watching the ads to unlock the chapter
and Them, the rich also don't mind to waste their money in exchange for more SS
(currently QI doesn't sell SS though)

                                                            Premium account is unreliable source of income. Why? This is not porn sites nor movie sites, and most people won't be too troubled to backlog a novel just to binge read/marathoning it once it's completely translated.

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