Myumara
You have a fanfic bias. I have an original bias. I admitted that before debating. I didn't use actual lines from my novel. I'm also not saying fanfic is easier or harder to write, except for world building. Since the world is already built in fanfic.

Both types have unique challenges, pros, and cons. I can respect your opinion that they should not be separated, though I disagree with it. I also think erotica should be separate, which others disagreed with. People don't have to agree on everything. That being said, it's dumb to claim everything ever is a fanfic.

Out of curiosity. Would you be for or against combining all of it into one then? If original/fanfic shouldn't be separated, then logically speaking, translated novels shouldn't either. We would all see our novels plummet in ranking drastically. If you're okay with that then your point stands on it's own legs regardless of whether anyone agrees or not. If you don't agree with it then you're a hypocrite.

    Myumara
    It takes nothing from me whether fanfic is separated or not. My novels are not popular so it hardly matters. I don't read fanfic. It's in the way when I look for novels to read. I don't want to see movies when I shop for games. I don't want to see porn when I hunt for funny youtube videos. I don't want to see NFL when I try to watch cartoons. All of these are very different things. They all are similar or identical types of media with very different fan-bases, users, etc.

    I'll stop arguing now as Kingicez requested. It's clear neither of us will change each others minds. I respect your opinion and I may very well be wrong. I have an obvious bias on this issue. I'm not so conceited to think I'm always right and everything should be as I want it. Thanks for the debate.

    SnoozySloth Everyday I sort novels by popularity to compare my novels to translated ones. Why can't I aspire for my novel to one day surpass Reborn: Evolve from nothing or library of heavens path? I have dreams too and seeing something that I spend 10+ hours a day writing rise to the top is my goal.

    But because you don't think the Genre is good enough you want to take that away from me?!? Of course I'm upset, those authors are human too and we're all struggling. You think I have it easy because my "World" is built? I spend 2 hours or more doing research just so I don't mess something up!

    For you to even imply that I have it slightly easier is like a slap to the face for the work I've put into this.

      Myumara
      I never said you can't aspire for that. Nor did I ever say fanfic isn't good enough. I've repeatedly emphasized that neither is better than the other, but you seem to be ignoring that. Nobody is trying to take anything away from you. I just want them separated the same way translation/original are. I even think they should each get their own power stone votes so people can vote across all three categories without being forced to use them only on their favorite.

      You make a fair point about the research. I didn't consider that. I'll take back what I said about the world building being easier. As I mentioned previously, I'm biased and not always right.

        SnoozySloth That the problem. If all three have separate power stones what's the point? It's a point of pride to know your fans chose to vote for your novel with their limited power stones.

        If fanfic had their own power stones my novel might be number 1, but so what? I don't want a participation trophy. I want to struggle to the top with everyone else.

        Knowing my novel is top 50 on the entire site is a great feeling, and separating them would just inflate the rankings.

        Every week when the rankings reset I sit there and watch every vote come in because every vote is precious so it means something knowing people voted for me.

        But if its separated? People are just throwing stones at my novel to get their daily SS and it cheapens the whole thing.

          Myumara
          Fair enough. Your argument stands on its own legs then. You should push for support to combine fanfic, original, and translations all into one large group. That way, everybody is competing against everybody. I don't agree with the idea, but it could very well be the best method. Perhaps WebNovel should hold a vote/poll on the front page or something.

            SnoozySloth It doesn't matter, you will get what you want and I'm just venting.

            It all comes down to one thing, MONEY. WN can't make money from FanFics so they will remove them from the rankings to give other novels a chance to rise. Because if other novels rise they can get contracted and WN makes more money.

            I can't fault them for wanting money and I can see how my novel can be seen as taking a spot for a different author to rise and get contracted.

            All I can do is pull my novel from the site in protest when they separated, but that's just a drop in the ocean and no one will care.

            Maybe I can actually get some sleep then and feel like I'm not letting my fans down. Youll get what you want because WN already said they are doing it.

              Misguided_Rooster GTA shouldn't be a kids game I cought my 6 year old nephew picking up hookers.

              Now the games in the trash. And I'm still walking around wondering if that cought as being born with game.

                SnoozySloth I'd say there allot of older men on here also in there early thirties and down.

                  SweetsTomato middle schools generally have condom dispensers in the bathroom and many sex education systems teach sodomy as a safe sex alternative.

                  California has a elementary school sex education system where they have explicit sex Ed classes. Which parents can't watch.
                  No joke it's real.

                    AuHNG I'm pretty sure that was a strong point for planned parenting when they started to teach sex Ed.. for now they haven't gone through puberty so it's safe.

                      SnoozySloth it certainly isn't the best method. I won't speak for majority, but, from what I've seen as a reader, most writers seem to care more about discoverability of their novel and the fanbase than about the horrible competition thing this site has got going.

                      SweetsTomato I actually disagree with your borrowing analogy. I like multiple stories that use a shared universe.

                        DeJeL religion is the basis for all fictional stories.

                          Don’t forget the untold countless numbers of original novels with zero chapters taking up space. Or the one with 1 chapter that the author plopped down and promptly abandoned.

                            Myumara Actually Popularity Ranking aort is more real. It is different from Power Stones rank. It counted View, Collection, and power stones. I believe it is more than weekly.

                              rustic Erm... That is... Like the question in the review. What is the value

                              You don't think it isn't OK for a kid to pick a hooker in game. However he is also killing and robbing people in that game. That is even worse.

                                The question is there is fanfic in other genre. For example I believe Webnovel had just dual hosting a fanfic novel from Gravity Tales... Is that included in FanFic or not?

                                  Poche Endless Universes - Young Master Path - The 1368th: if you like some comedic

                                  Gwahahaha. More popularity to this Rabbink.

                                  Thank you for helping this Shameless Rabbink to promote.

                                    MasterRabbink yeah I drive a truck. So I listen to serious xm radio Fox news and wall builders which is a Christian news outlet. It was on both stations

                                      MasterRabbink I know but.. it's hard to find a game that does not kill even Lego islands kills people..and look how fun halo is.irs hard to say you can't enjoy halo. Because people kill.

                                      Robotech is boring as hell. That leaves sports games.. which creates idol worship of players. Race car games. And games like Sims. Simple put my poor nephew only gets 1 hour of game time. In my home because we want him to focus on grades. Family and chores.

                                      I used to read stories to the kids when I was home to expand there imagination. Then we play in the yard building forts spaceships and such.. but to many stories focus on sex and murder. The Japanese focus on being stupid and dense. The Americans focus on demon worshiping and vampires..

                                      It's actually very rare to find a average Joe go on an adventure, or a paladins fighting for what's right. Instead it's always some messed up evil guy who killing stealing and raping his way to power. Or he only acts nice when he had no power once he has it he is worse than the original antagonist.

                                      Misguided_Rooster

                                      At 12, you still get in trouble. It's not "illegal" because you don't get arrested or fined. But you still get in trouble. So the legal age is 18. Trust me, go have sex at like 12, you will get in trouble.

                                        Misguided_Rooster ever heard of statutory rape? Parents can still sue. Where the fvck did you get this information? And yes, even if both of them are minors, they could be labelled as a sex offender for life. 'MURICAAAA!

                                          yu_ba_bu_neng This site it's turning into what the original Chinese site is, just go to qidian and search a little there are tons of fanfics of naruto, one piece, and even more original novel that are not worthy of your reading time, the ones you call "Real Literature" are no more than a limited number of hand picked novels that adjust to the subjective tastes of the translators, many of them are not even that good, written by normal people like the people that write those "shitty" fanfics. Qidian exist as a platform to give an opportunity to people that doesn't want, or can, deal with editorials and his narrow minded standards, just don't be like them be open minded.

                                            Gurahl Actually I believe Webnovel is the best place for fanfiction. The site is easy to read... had an offline apps. The other is FF and AO3. They were still in 1990. WN is actually strong in this side.

                                              WEBNOVEL_OFFICIAL Wow it s frinking rare for you to reply. Sht got reaaal! For weeks we asked you the same question but you never give an explanation or announcement regarding Free Chapters. Bullssshtt.! And then some of unlocked chapters ( with SS) are being locked again. So I need spend more more SS to re-read retrace back my chapters!!! Are u bullish or ignorant

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