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Pizz so Pizz I followed your suggestion to pop over to Gravity Tales and get my Versatile Mage fix. Low and behold I was disappointed by the authors bad mouthing of Mo Fan yet again. So I copied my post their to here to solicit your opinion on my pet peeve with Chinese writers.

"I agree with Starfox the writing style is repetitive and seems weak to readers of more mature authors. It's design of making the hero always seem like the underdog to seek an emotional response and connection with the readers works the first time it is used, but after the audience knows the main character is a powerhouse then other methods should be employed. The weak plot of using a lover in danger is one such tool. The death of a dear and close friend (used last major battle), is another.

I recommend the better writing style of giving Mo Fan a personality and depth of character and let him struggle with internal conflicts like we all do everyday. Then he does not have to be artificially villainized every fight to ellisit a connection with the readers. Why not simplify have him struggling with how to defeat these guys without harming them or revealing too many secrets. Kind of like Clark Kent always struggling behind a pair of glasses."

BattleLord yeah the guys always been like this, i think it was May last year, (ish) but unless I use web archive or google cache to check the 1st release, as I've posted before it was promised 45+ chapters a month, with maybe 10 if lucky in a month, then I made a post called versatile mage left to rot in here, pointing out how much of a joke it was that we had never got that and he had taken money and cash was sitting for 3-4 novel just sitting their ...after a month they replaced the main page to 7 chapters a week ...turns out 3-5 in 14 days some weeks as someone else pointed out in the gt comments ,
the whole thing is a joke as he just drops the novel for exams ( ok I can understand that, but you should know well in advance if you had exams coming up ...or he just drop it all and left to go on holiday with no warning )

this is why I give up and tl'ed it myself ok it is not great but its about 50% better than the basic raw lmntl.com release I partly base it on as I use word 2013 + Grammarly to check spelling and other bits,
ok due to the amount of time I have slowly built up a custom dictionary to work with both
but as jeff and myself have chat here and other places I still miss some epic bits due to the spelling/ word problems etc, but I look at it this way, it better than have nothing to read at this rate,
I mean we're 257 tl'd out of 2648 (The forest of maple tree fire ) today release we're only 2391 behind and growing where I believe we should be at about 400-500+ if the real release that was 1st promised

BattleLord students like to do all these kinds of things,badmouthing is one of them

Pizz you guys should get the job as the Versatile Mage translator. It seems odd that Gravity Tales is posting updates and Webnovel isn't. What's up with that do you think, have they decided to return to GT?

Mo_Fan_Magic_God Bad writing in this style is even worse if it is done to promote a bad example among young impressionable people. Authors are both leaders and teachers and should hold themselves to the best examples they can. What is China growing into if this is a sample of the way they encourage their readers?

BattleLord actually this type of writing suit chinese preference and similar to their lifestyle,such as western ppl like to provoke others and have fight frequently especially boxing and sports competition,however this book educate ppl too but you will find it out later,too few chapters now to cover all of these things

I love how Mo Fan cares about his sister, his father, his first love, his few friends and and his Wolf . These are qualities the author could capitalize on. Personally I think Mo Fan is one paycheque away from being a bad guy. His main motivation is resources to get stronger, even if that means taking everyone else's resources like he did at school. The Black Vatican could have him and the Spring for a fraction of the cost and effort to destroy Bo City.
Mo Fan needs to struggle more than just physically to be a true hero. Villains are people who didn't struggle hard enough and gave into temptation. A great writer would have made many attempts by the villains to lure Mo Fan to their way of thinking. Threatening him, and his friends and family have not worked but I bet they will continue to repeat these failures. At the very least try to discredit Mo Fan to isolate him from any support, make him a criminal and hunted for murder or being a member of their organization.
Mo Fan should be an easy person to frame for a crime with his history and the numbers of students and influential people willing to speak against him. Hell the numbers speaking against him on his own team show how easy it would be to make the world believe he is a monster.

BattleLord as Jeffrey said, it gets loads better later on and I have to agree that's why I mtl the raws my self ..not as good as a real tl, but good enough of to get what happens to them and where they visit etc .. but if I know Chinese I'd be happier as i wouldn't have to go thru the nightmare of gender terms plus a few other things..but the nightmares worth it

BattleLord btw the insanity of it all is that GT is 90% owned by QI . this was why in the past i asked for qi to take it back

Ok, I am new here on webnovel and GravityTales. I bought copies of RSSG on Amazon and followed them to GT, then followed RSSG to webnovel. This all since October so I am a virgin so treat me tenderly when you explain what and how QI relates.

god what is happening 258 is now out on gt but still no qi update

Quote,"It really made Mo Fan regret that he didn’t properly bang her back then. Once the rice had been cooked, who would then care about the bullcrap from Mu Zhuoyun?". Wow, I can't believe Mo Fan has such disrespectful thoughts, its like the love of his life is just a tool to aid in masterbation.
Also why does Mu Ningxue’s body give off an aura of frost that creates a fog around her and Mo Fan doesn't even have a rosy glow, give off static shocks, or have a shadow that moves eerily on its own. All he has to show for his four elements is dog breath. <snicker>

The phrase is popular in china,but english there is no such phrase i think

Pizz OMG are you telling me Mo Fan gets Mu Ningxue pregnant! I feel he still loves her at this point in the novel but that is so not Mo Fan ATM.

I didn't think Chinese girls did the horizontal bop before they are married. Do they not consider their madenhood sacred? Western girls tend to give it up pretty early due to the internet teaching sex education on porn sites. I often shake my head when parents don't want the schools to provide a detailed sexual education class.

BattleLord everyone in the world does it, don't be blinded by "fake" culture idea's from anywhere, like your comment about western girls I can say is wrong for a fact as I live in the UK ...in life and love ...some will and some will not, no matter the culture at the end of the day and that's a fact I can 100% say as I've been there

Mo Fan and Mu Ningxue are never going to make it as a couple, they totally lack communication skills. He nods at her, she glances at him... they have not seen each other since the fall of Bo City and this is how lovers greet? The author has a lot of work to do if these two ever are going to have sex, let alone share a cup of tea together.

The truth is they are couple and they have sex already

Mo_Fan_Magic_God yeah but that's well, later on, don't give away to much unless
hes in our fb thing

BattleLord rem my comment about that second question, you needed to what abit to find out why, don't worry the author does build it up , and a lot of other things, this is why Jeff and myself talked about world building and other stuff :)

Mo_Fan_Magic_God wait, when did they have a chance to have sex, and did she get pregnant?

you need to look at yourself
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and the story will never make any progress,a month ago we are still in this arc and a month later the fight still hasnt finished,it really sounds ridiculous

BattleLord comment on chapter 256 to express your anger about the translation speed,the editor is currently collecting comments on tofu and he may take action depends on it

I read your post Pizz on GT, and you are right that Mo Fan needs to maintain an edge by keeping his quad elements from public knowledge. Summoning and Fire for his school, Lighting and Shadow for his City Hunter job, and everything when he needs to pull out all the stops to save lives.

BattleLord and the church ;)

depressingly still not release on GT plus no comments

Versatile Mage has many revenue streams including a three season animated series, a new comic series, releases on gravitytales and webnovel websites and two novels on Amazon at a cost of $5.00 for my country's currency.
With more than a thousand more chapters waiting for release it would appear the public is not meeting the authors price per word criteria. Considering how many different media streams the author has invested in the economics of supply vs demand will only hold as long as the authors works hold value to the readership. Currently this trickle release rate has caused the value of your work to fall to the point where I see no value in paying for it.

Having visited the Versatile Mage Patron site the current Patrons is 71, and they are looking for so we wait or hope the cost of living in Sydney Australia drops drastically.

the biggest enemy is not the black church,there are things much more horrible

BattleLord yeah I posted a screen pic of it in our little FB group for QF/VM as its a sad state of affairs, I'm starting to think the guy is just doing this I believe so he can sound cool to people , i've know a good few like that in the past , as no one can be this bad
1. unless ill ( which is 100% ok if we're told as i'm recovering for a big op so I never have a problem with that )

2. time for real exams (and once again we're told ),
but to me, this is now a full on joke and a total dis to the readers, basically, he can't do 2 things at once it seems it makes me wonder if he can, in fact, breath in and out without post-it notes to help as a reminder
as if his college was so hard, then he shouldn't have taken the job or gotten a real partner as the editor isn't to blame as I had a chat but at this rate, he needs to be replaced as QI should note how bad this guy is making them look , after they give him a new contract in I think about Oct, but we had been asking for this to be removed from GT I think since June.july, someone else and myself both posted within days of each other pointing out this great novel is being left to rot in novel hell to someone how has no love for it.

Mo_Fan_Magic_God lol, I wasn't going to tell him about that yet as they may never get to that point within any of our lifetimes unless you lnmlt yourself and as you know Jeff ,I do and how much time I put in to it without knowing Chinese, I'll luckily i understand a few basic's etc

Pizz it's not just VM that is not updating in their usual manner. I am also an avid reader of KoG and that went from two chapters a day plus, to two chapters a week since the holiday season. I think something else maybe behind it and I am not a conspiracy theories person, but this is just weird.

BattleLord it's ok my main novel SSM has been screwed for the last 3weeks plus with no warning, but I've been told that by next week normal service should be back .... I hope