Amazing stories such as: "A Will Eternal", "Shall Seal The Heavens" and "Epoch of Twilight" ... they had an interesting and intriguing beginning, a delightful middle ... and merged, ragged, ending. I wonder why?
I wonder why good novels have a weak ending?
Gourmet_DAO because some author has a really good idea and starts writing a novel.
then he starts earning money with it and keeps dragging it out and out and out and out till he somehow has to end the whole mess.
i love reading this stuff but i havent seen one with a really good ending so far
Rhisgol Thanks for your reply! So it's trite because of the money? The author simply writes the quantity, and the qualities are not so important?
I especially do not like it when a romance takes place on Earth, and suddenly the main character rushes somewhere to another planet or universe ...
In another novel, there is a story about his wife, children ... family ... and then bam ... and it all stops ... 10 chapters of some kind of outright nonsense and a crumpled happy ending.
Of all the novels, I think the short story - “Rebirth: How A Loser Became A Prince Charming” has a good start, a great middle and a magical ending.
Gourmet_DAO Basically what the previous poster said. Also, sometimes someone else has to end the story if the original author drops it, so the ending might be rushed/bad in this too.
Chryiss Is it like the Wind Seal manga or Gone with the Wind remakes? Interesting, thank you for sharing the information!
Stories here are encouraged to be loooong. That probably makes it hard to have an ending that ties everything u neatly.
veinglory That is, quantity wins quality? Even professional authors? Extremely entertaining!
Thank!
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Gourmet_DAO This is a website that is innately structured for serials, with 1000 word plus chapters, often released daily and lasting over multiple volumes. It's more like a writing-social-network-game for the vast majority of authors here, including those who also write as a profession. The pay received is minimal or nil depending on whether the author/translator has a contract. If people want shorter work that has been carefully polished and packaged, they go to a bookstore. My story here might end up there one day, but coming along for the creation is a different experience.
veinglory We used to have good translated Chinese novels. But now the translation of novels, even books on paper, is not much different from the Internet. The quality is not that. And books are expensive. Formerly there were stories about stories, such as the author Feng Jitsai, the Taoist Conjuration, Qu Yuan. Poetry by Li Bo. Yes, I can say it was literature! High-quality, excellent stories.
Now of course this is not.
As I understand it, when a writer writes his novel only for money, only for quantity, he loses his job at the level of "masterpiece" and moves to the level of "stamping" of an average book quality?
Interesting idea! Thank!
Personally I think that the problem lies within multiplicity of plots in some books, and what comes to end is usually main plot, not subplots of relations between characters, which are just "lived long and happy".
Sometimes, especially in wuxia novels, authors try too hard to wrire "epic" ending which ends as complete gibberish spanning tens of chapters, and after 50 chpt of battle there is like 2 chapters that try to sum up and close future of characters.
i KNOW THIS ISN'T RELATED BUT CAN YOU WRITE WITHOUT A BOOK? I'M WRITING SEVERAL ONLINE BUT THEY GOT NO LITERAL BOOKS. I GET INSPIRED ,CHOOSE WHICH NOVEL TO UPDATE AND THAT'S IT. ANYWAY CONCERNING WHAT THIS THREADS ABOUT I NORMALLY DUMP NOVELS WHEN I FIND THERE'S TOO MUCH KILLING,THE CHARACTERS ARE MADE TO DO NONSENSE AND YET YOU STILL HAVE TO READ THEM. ONLY VENERATED CONSORT MADE ME READ SO FAR BUT THEN I ALSO DUMPED IT. I THINK WE SHOULDN'T JUST GO FOR POPULAR STORIES ONLY. ONE SHOULD TRY OUT THE NEW ONES. THEY ARE GOOD JUST LIKE THE ONE IM READING. ADVENTURES OF YOUNG MASTER. TRY IT AND IF YOU DON'T FALL IN LOVE WITH IT YOU CAN TOAST ME.
i'd call it the "Soap Opera Syndrome." Writer begins with a great concept, but just like what happens on TV, as the ratings (power votes) grow, and with constant feedback via viewers comments, writer is influenced to either extend the storyline or give the audience what they want. These may not be how the author had originally envisioned how his/her plot would go. And so the story begins to take a life of its own, and evolves, just like a TV series. I'd imagine it's even more so, for stories that are written "live" where the author is just several chapters ahead of the audience. This interaction, aside from the stimulus of earning SS, would definitely affect plotting. That's why we also see a lot of fillers -- unnecessary dialogues and repetitive scenes -- which don't really do anything to move the story forward but only creates volume. How to tie up all those loose ends and finally build up to a denouement when you've already gotten lost in all the side stories....
Gourmet_DAO I don't know about that manga. You're talking about Gone with the Wind the classic movie/story?
I think also some authors get tired or lose interest in their books, it can be disheartening receiving bad reviews or comments. Even something like Oh, this reminds me of .... can be a bit off-putting and makes an author start doubting themselves.
While I agree that the monetary award does affect the quality of some authors work, which is horrible - and I have seen this too many times now on WN on original novels and makes me want to stop reading any novel that goes premium, I still persist in following those stories hoping that the author will go back to what attracted me to their stories in the first place.
To me, the saddest part of WN is the amount of good quality original stories that just don't get any attention, and those novels really deserve it. And because of the lack of interest in those novels, the authors are dropping them, while shitty novels that don't deserve to be in the top 10 are racking in the votes with their substandard writing that regresses every chapter.
The homepage of WN now carries the same old stories over and over again with just one or two new one added.
Really, A novel that should have ended in chapter 600-ish, have been lengthened into a 1000+ chapter novel and it's still ongoing.
Apparently, New ideas just don't come easily like pancakes, Even the certain professional author who writes about CEO romance doesn't deviate so much from its original root of the main idea. It's like a family tree, to be exact, You build the main source or root, Make novels with exactly the FL and ML get from it, add a twist, change the settings, tweak the personalities, etc. And viola! A new novel is born.
It can do if his/her novel is beyond saving, writing again should be easy enough because he/she already destroyed the first world/novel. That's why we see many novels with either naughty CEO's, Raped FL, and a Cute Child.
Cultivation is getting popular now and then, Being Battle Through The Heavens having the lead of it. Can't remember flame and Whatsoever techniques were used, I've forgotten most of them. ಥ⌣ಥ
Gourmet_DAO because satisfying things aren't their forte. their expertise lines up on the level uo level up level up level up part.
Cynical_Taste Why do they need an epic finale? Why talk for example about family, wives, children, so that later they will never return to them at all?
A wonderful novel for example "Fishing the Myriad Heavens" - when the main character was a cook, a fisherman, lived on Earth, but suddenly he began to move to other planets ... this destroyed the storyline ...
Why do so many beautiful novels about cooking, alchemy, farms end in anything but just not a story about how their culinary, alchemical or farming skills developed? For some reason, the main characters completely forgot their main specialty and became just martial arts masters? Then, logically, iromans should have other names, so as not to confuse the reader?
Chryiss Kaze no Stigma - the manga written by Takahiro Yamato Sensei and illustrated by Hanamaru Nanto Sensei was released in 2003.
Yes, I'm talking about the classic "Gone with the Wind" written by Margaret Mitchell.
ealdgyth Interesting idea! Maybe you're right. Previously, novels before the invention of the Internet, although they were stamped, but they had logically complete endings. Then the question arises, does this mean that in this type of genre, a masterpiece at the level of world classics can never appear?