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  • Introducing the Premium program BETA, giving you advanced chapters!

I see a lot of angry people. But you have to realize that authors, translators, editors and other are a job. They need to earn their share and it's business. Asking someone to provide something you enjoy without giving back remuneration is illogical.
I just hope that QI can implement monthly subscription in different package.
Example
package A 5 novel of your choice
package B 10 novel and such.
Or monthly on each novel depending on readers choice. Instead of one subscription for all that will be hella expensive and redundant coz most people don't read all the novels.

    LittleHuge there are people who share the same thought as you.
    join them here, maybe QI'd consider it if there are a lot of readers who wish such subscription system.

    LittleHuge most people do understand that author/translator/QI deserve some profit... it just this new system stone cost is unreasonable... it increase from 4 stone prior the system to 18 chapter (the highest i've seen)... mean sudden 4.5times cost increase... if only they introduce this system with original 4 stone price first saying it BETA price... then slowly raise the stone price until find the right balance... most people might support this new system...

    This system also have major flaw... the newest locked chapter of RTW (premium novel)... already hosted in some pirate site... they buy stones and unlock those 10 advance chapter... host it in their site... got ad revenue and profit... this will eventually lead to QI lost lots of "real reader"... free reader is of course... and most small spender and some medium spender will also leave to pirate site... since they have 10 chapter advantage without reader need to pay at all... this will left QI with small community of medium and big spender... and pirates also... πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚... this will hurt translator and QI in long run...

    Hope QI reevaluate the stone price to unlock chapter... my suggestion... for now... cap it at max 9 stones/chapter... people will be repulsive when they see 2 digits stone number... then reevaluate again later... of course since lots of reader already angry... QI could sooth the mass with 4 stone original price for certain period of time...

    This is only suggestion... hoping that translator did not get negative effect from this new system...

    I hope i get a serious answer on this even tho im a little late.
    I want to pay for SS, but i cant pay with PayPal because of my country rules regarding Dollars, isnt there any other option for paymen?

      HJC The first explanation regarding to the chapters that going to be read by both user has no problem... but I would like to qoute *how is free user that don't pay anything should be at the same level as premium member?Now i would like to answer this in my own view point when it comes to limitation and possibilities.. It depends on the readers perspective why he/she comes to read novels or lets says their perspective when it comes to catching up the stories... you want to enjoy your time then just read the novel in the other hand you want to be on the same level with those who are more ahead than you then you must take your money from your pocket and pay to be a premium user.. it depends on you.. no force. or anything that pressure you to buy their chapters.. If you have the chance to buy the whole novel then, buy some novel on available stores.

        Estriole well i guess you should count the days of the chapter to be released... cause that is how chapter is being released for free users. guess they must add some notification that says that this chapter will be release after a day a go somehow.

          Rokuman_24 I'm so disappointed to what's happening right now, I'm so excited to read the new chapters of some of the novels that i'm reading right now.

            Tertium Well I see, it was, but I dont know if it was different from paying via web... different method of use.

              Youryum Sorry to hear dear but, you know development always comes with a good level of production of quality novels or products.. that is how our economy works.

                Rokuman_24 huhuhuhu T_T... I hope they would do increase giving free SS so that I could read more chapter without wasting my money, I'm not even rich tho to pay some money for any other alternative .

                  Rokuman_24 agree that free user and premium user should differ... but if QI charge too much and not reasonable when increasing the price (4 stones before new system to 18 stones now mean 4.5 times stone increase)... people might run to those pirate site... FYI... release the witch latest unlocked chapter already hosted in some of pirate sites... this mean they buy stones and unlock the chapter... host it for ad revenue profit... if the price is not reasonable for low and medium spender reader... they might follow free reader to go to pirate sites... since they host 10 locked chapter for free... this is bad for translator and Qi in long term... you will lose free reader, most of low spender reader, some medium spender reader from community and left with big spender and pirates...

                  Basically i agree with new system... but alter the stone cost for now... think of it as BETA price... and evaluate it as the system go... you can raise it slowly until it reach balance between reader, QI, translator...

                    Like everyone else very against change that impedes my reading addiction but I do want to support so at the very least give the unrestricted ability to watch ads for 1-3 stones a piece and I'll spend a good 30 minutes plus with only mild complaints watching ads for stones for premium chapters.

                      Estriole it seems that the administration looks for the small hole when it come to pricing strategies, but let see how they will respond to the reaction the the user's, cost mostly of the readers here are just a free readers.. we do not know. this would not be the last updates that they are going to the future, but going to the piracy itself is a big disadvantage for big companies who produce original copies.

                        Skavven Im not addicted but I gonna admit that I spend a lot of time reading novels cause I really have a free time to use.. especially during our break time at school.. I just hoping that they make more way for reading the chapters for free.

                          Before I rant, let me make it clear that I believe there is no such thing as a free lunch. Webnovel has been offering free spirit stones, chapters, etc. to build a following so that they could later make money off us. Fair enough. Businesses exist to make money; if you thought Webnovel was altruistically giving you stories to read and expecting nothing in return then you have too much trust. My issue with this situation is that the premium model uses nonrefundable, virtual currency usable solely on one website. There are two problems to this:

                          One, spirit stones are basically monopoly money that costs real money. You are less likely to think about how much you are actually spending when what you are spending doesn't actually look like money. It is the same reason casinos use chips instead of cash and video games with micro-transactions have their own virtual currency. And if you ever want to back out of spending money on the spirit stones, you can't get your money back. They could theoretically just connect a bank account or credit card to your Webnovel account, but that would make people watch real money go away with each transaction, which they would be less willing to do.

                          The second issue ties to the first. Has anyone read the forums where people reveal personal information like age? A large portion of users are teens, who may not know how to be financially responsible yet. You can argue this however you want, but it is a fact that the human brain does not finish developing its prefrontal cortex (the decision making part of the brain) until the age of about 25. You can be addicted to anything: drugs, alcohol, food, video games, gambling, and yes even reading. This is why companies always gear advertising to younger audiences to try gain brand loyalty early on.

                          You can say that the premium model is not that expensive, or that any reasonable person won't lose a ton of money on it, but it could prey on a specific group of people rather viciously. Mobile game marketers have called these people 'whales.' Rather than the model in place, I would be interested in seeing a subscription service at a flat rate where you get to read ahead for every book. That would be a less predatory means to monetize in my opinion.

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                            I don't quite understand, so if RTW got 10 advance chapter and some would be released for free each day, is that mean I could keep reading the released chapter for free some time later?

                              Lovemusic101 when it comes to like this yeh, but business was not really my specialty just knowing a little idea how it really works.

                                Lovemusic101 hahaha so you have the idea for entering in the world of entrepreneurship hehehe

                                  can you make it that i can use google store/ i store to buy spirit stone?
                                  its easier for me that have no cc.

                                    TianKong I believe you can ... use the app and you can buy SS with google store

                                      Wildy well shit happens the euro is more valuable but I always see the 1-1 ratio with the dollar on the internet.

                                      unexpectedname0 Do they? I heard from someone that all of the translators were told to take down their patreons by Qidian as part of their contracts. It was just some guy on the forums, so that could be wrong. Also, what you said doesn't really negate anything I said about the current pay model being exploitative.

                                        ImperfectInfinity all the translators on qidian quit from patreon? But when? Few months ago i was a patreon of library of heaven path for example. I mean yeah is excessive but I think is the same system they have on the Chinese page they are just copying it, maybe some things need to change I mean we are not Chinese ppl, someone few comments above write that some premium chapters are already hosted on different pages so they need to rethink the premium model imo.

                                          unexpectedname0 I will be honest when I say that I am not sure about the patreon thing. I just read it on one of the threads a couple of weeks ago. Someone said it was in the translators/editors contracts, but I have no evidence to back that up. I was more framing the statement as a question, sorry for the confusion.

                                            GregLuck yes you can keep reading the released free chapters, in the end you could eventually finish the novel from reading those free chapters. the problem is you'll be far left behind (after a while) by premium users (those who use ss to unlock the premium chapters) because premium chapters are a lot more compare to free chapters. this is why some readers complaint.
                                            some said that it is some kind of bait, to make readers buy ss (because they don't like to be left behind, can't wait too long, or fear they would become a grampa/ma when they finish the novel xD).

                                            ImperfectInfinity I think it was from the former translator of CCG on his website that mention about the Patreon problem

                                              WEBNOVEL_OFFICIAL I tried buying coin in Chinese qidian and donating my favorite author which is not here. Had to pay almost 40% more than Chinese ppl coz of fee, FML lol
                                              I wish qidian added bitcoin/webmoney as payment option. I would buy much much more. I'm not gonna pay 140$ for 100$ lol

                                              But it's a good thing to use coin instead of flat money, coz i think i bought 6000 coin with 10$ and 1 chapter was like 10 coin, it's a pain to write 0.001666667 $ as the price for a chapter lol

                                                i am on premium bitches, bought only 1 dollar. lol all for that tuxedo (premium member first 100 only tag, looks like a tuxedo suit)

                                                  Pedram i have to pay 11.50 on paypal all the time cuz of fee

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