..... This place sure is heating up... I dont care tho, just be civil with your words guys.
Boycott
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GodBrandy you should look in a mirror and reflect on what you said. Im sure that you yourself is a miser. Meh.. all human with circumstance are all a miser...
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GodBrandy Seriously man? You don't return to me, but write something like this
GodBrandy Miser detected :stuck_out_tongue:
to others? I guess it's not in your interest to reply to my post that has some solid points right? I guess i'm a miser too for dreading about potentially having to pay $270 monthly in the future? I'm sorry for not having that kind of money to spend on web novels, my bad. Should have been more successful in life....
SRandom You gotta remember that Rox did 2 chapters a day for a long time, like half a year. That's how RtW got so popular to start with. It was only at the end when he had some real life issues that the release rate dropped. Serious ones, like housing. Producing high quality, high speed work everyday is not easy, and everyone at some point in time meets real life, like getting sick, getting married, new job, having kids, etc. Just wanted to point that out. He worked really hard and put out chapters fast for as long as he could. But that is quickly forgotten.
Ebu8b I am not too sure of the release speed from the old translator but what I do know is that it was kinda slow so I usually wait for a week or two and as for why donations chapter being released it is cuz people who donated know that it will be released asap
As for those donations it is another story so we need not go there.
Let’s focus on QI
What I am talking about it the normal chapters. So it used to be 17 free chapters with the ads and little SS that is covered with the daily SS
But now it is still 17 chapters but 7 free and 10 paid with a release of 1 per day? But so far I did not seee any release on my RTW novel.
So that is the point
As for Patreon, it is the choice to support or not and it does not affect the rate of free chapters (well, that is how most TLers handle it so I will take that as the role model)
But here it is we need to pay for the chapters which was originally free?
If RTW released the 17 weekly chapters and release others as advanced I will have nobe Hint to say....
Well..
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immortal_corrupt it does not affect the rate of free chapters
And at the same time that release rate is often lower than 7 chaps per week.
immortal_corrupt we need to pay for the chapters which was originally free?
Pay or wait. These are the two option you have, the same as for other translator.
immortal_corrupt I did not seee any release on my RTW novel.
Okay that is weird. Because you should see one free chapter per day. First time hearing that. Maybe bug on your side? I use my SS for the premium chapters and therefore I can't see the release for the free chapter anymore.
immortal_corrupt used to be 17 free chapters with the ads and little SS that is covered with the daily SS
Well that can I say beside that Qidian has to pay the editor, translator, author, their staff and then needs profit to increase/improve their service. Unlike other sites who don't pay the author (some translator share their patreon money with the author like CK did when he was still in WW) or have the pressure to increase their profit.
immortal_corrupt for why donations chapter being released it is cuz people who donated know that it will be released asap
You wanna tell that the translator who went MIA almost every third week, isn't so lazy that he would just post the normal 4 chapter per week as donation chapter. But sincerely translated the donation chapters but not the weekly chapters.
He didn't even finish all the donation chapters, so someone else had to do it. If it is about other translator, I would most likely give you the point, but not for the old translator of RTW. And yes I am biased towards that translator.
N0xiety I'm not sure which novels you're following, but unless they have at least 14/week release rate they won't turn premium. And even novels with 14/week release rate aren't completely sure to turn premium either~ But if they're all super popular, there might be a chance. As for the halved release rate for premium novels, it came as a surprise to use too, and even translators can't decide the number of free releases right now; it's fixed to 7/week no matter how many chapters you release. As for your situation, I can't say much about it besides what I already said. You just need to have patience and stockpile chapters. Even if it's my favorite novel, I usually get tired of reading daily chapters xD
Lomacris I don't really care what a bunch of nobodies says about me. And what use is reputation anyway? Qidian doesn't have any (it's probably negative by this point) and it's still pretty successful :thinking:
WitheredWill My DOTA 2 inventory would have something to say here :thinking: Just because you're a leecher doesn't mean everyone is a leecher. How do I know that you're a leecher? I just looked at your history à_à
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Actually I don't like the current system very much, but I am doing fine. I am waiting for other novels or I just watch the ads and only use my SS for RTW.
But I would prefer a sub system with 2,99€ and 4.99€ subs.
4,99€ all novel for free + no ads. 2,99€ you choose 10 premium (if we ever reach that number or higher) + no ads.
Before anyone ask why 2 options. We have novel addictics and casuals here. 4,99€ for everyone would be unfair for casuals.
Well in the end it is a dream. Wish I had some influence in Qidian. Still it's weird for me that they didn't follow the Soundcloud/Kindle Unlimited/Spotify model. Perfect examples of what is working just fine.
We are all grateful for what Rox has done, but it also goes to prove that Rox`s model is not sustainable.
Actually this system give you more benefit than subs as not all reader read all novel but just as i said before its not worth it to pay to change your rights, not get more rights
lol, i just wanted to chime in and point out that there's someone here with the username @Everyone, when everyone likes your post, it looks as if everyone like your post. a consensus, and i just wanted to point out that consensuses are harder to find than unicorns, especially in a forum with 100+ people, and their 100+ voices
Missed it earlier, Qidian is still giving two +5 for voting and not just one. So yes the free SS received per day is around 19-23 total. That works fine if I log in every day but I might not and then there's the fact that Immortal Mortal has a tendency to cost 12 per chapter which is a total of 24 SS.
That said, I can live with the current situation. I don't like paying up to $60 dollars a year to get my daily fix but that's where I draw the line (that said I am a miser so I can't say I'm paying with a smile on my face.. I was upset when my phone bill went over $5 dollars on average a month... yes it can be done... it's up to $23 now...).
My main concern is, what is the plan going forward and what kind of money is it going to require if I want to keep reading at a regular pace? If there is a constant release of 7 chapters per story per week from the paid tier down to the free tier then I have no place to complain. But there has been several changes over the past year and I am a bit worried about what the executives have in mind and where they will draw the line on their side.
Qidian, please tell us where you're headed and stick with it. I know it's probably in testing at the moment but please let us know what can be released. Thanks!
I'm not sure if I am misunderstanding something here, but isn't premium novels only a few extra chapters instead of the entire novel becoming premium pay to read? Can't you just wait a little bit of time and then premium becomes free?
GodBrandy yup i'm a leecher and a miser, but im proud of it. Having anything for free is nice you see.
Has anyone discussed distribution rights with the original author and publishers before you get ahead of yourselves? translating and posting while recouping cost is one thing turning it into a business is another. In many countries if you profit from someone else intellectual properties your opening yourself up to huge lawsuits.
Warloque * you're opening
My opinion doesn't really matter, but I don't mind any of this. To be honest, I'm paying $10 a month for both Hulu and Netflix, and however much per month HBO costs. (Because I forgot to cancel after Game of Thrones season ended, I should really cancel that today now that I remembered, thanks OP!)
That being said, I spend more time on Webnovel than I do on Netflix, Hulu, or any other entertainment site. I kind of like the pay for what you need model instead of subscription. (For obvious reasons... see HBO)
There are many instances where I wouldn't watch Hulu for months at a time because of there not being any new shows. Also, I am very conscious of what I do, so I love having this platform where I can read these novels in an official manner. (I turn down people wanting to give me a copy of a pirated movie and just wait until it releases to rent or buy. I think I watched one once, but then felt bad and went and bought it...)
Anyway, what was this topic about, I've been rambling... Oh, yeah... I don't mind the pay system...
Leylin_Farlier Well, that 'little bit of time' comes down to years when you are talking about a novel with 1000 chapters... Ok imagine a novel having 21 chapter release rate per week. How long would it take to finish 1000 chapters? Just about a year right? For the 'premium' that is! How about the free reader? You might wanna add 2 more years over the original 1 year since free reader will get 7 chapters per week instead of 21... So the premium reader = 1 year, while the free reader = 3 years reading time... Just 'a little bit of time' right? It's just 2 more years. Nothing much right? ( ͡ᵔ ͜ʖ ͡ᵔ )
N0xiety Leylin_Farlier
And you still didnt add the possibility QI remove PFF from that novel. You have to buy with SS to read