Protip for doing business beyond China: it's not advisable to take things away from your customers/readers. People outside of authotarian regimes are not usually okay with having "their" things taken away.
Is the video section removed from rewards
Keilz it's just a guess.
Keilz it's just a guess.
ResidentialPsycho Oh no, QI would never announce any changes that would inconvenience nonpaying readers, they’ll only announce changes that are either neutral, or encourage paying readers. Everything else, they’ll sneak up behind you and shove their money absorbing dîldö up your āss while you’re just walking down the street minding your own business.
Wealthydollybhatia yes.. I can't see also.. N even gift for entry it's less also now
marianc same thing happened to me
So, once again, they make a deep cut into the free SS in order to make us buy more, always more.
I bought once 2k, because with free SS i could barely read 1 daily novel. But if I can't even read 1 free novel with the free SS, I won't buy again and just go on aggregators
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Georges one more thing, they are cutting weekend check in from 10 to 5 as well. So that's about 130 stones a week they took from weekly check ins and rewards. Or over 6700 stones a year if you look at the long run. It's Christmas season, when people spend more and businesses can make more. And instead of adding a gift or saying thanks to creators and readers they slap us with reductions in rewards and try to force us to spend more money to replace lost rewards.
This sucks not only they removed the video and reduce the reward, they also remove the experience from voting ! And the daily reward is to little!
The need to bring back the old system. What of novels that require 10 or 11 ss to unlock some chapters. It means with this new method u can only read a chapter a day. This is nowhere close to anything. It's lije they are basically asking us to stop using the app
And the limited free reading books are only valid 24 hours now... by the time I've read up to the locked chapters, they're locked again and it's a new book. There's no quality control - they're not all worth the same. Hard to get into a story when you're anxious about costs, skipping 20 slow chapters at a time. I find myself drifting to Creative Novels and Wattpad...
@WEBNOVEL_OFFICIAL why can re no longer earn SS through watching videos and why have the rewards all been reduced? Everyone is pretty unhappy. Come on guys, it's not like we don't spend money on these books. We pay over the odds for these. They certainly cost more than buying a book at a bookshop!
@WEBNOVEL_OFFICIAL why can we no longer earn SS through watching videos and why have the rewards all been reduced? Everyone is pretty unhappy. Come on guys, it's not like we don't spend money on these books. We pay over the odds for these. They certainly cost more than buying a book at a booksho
EL81 p!
EL81 No, they don't. A book at a bookstore costs anywhere between $8 to $18 for a full-length novel that's usually about, maybe 60,000 to 80,000 words long?
Here, in Webnovel, you pay 2 cents per 200 words - for an equivalent of one volume (let's say 60,000 words), you pay $6. Now, I'm aware that the quality on Webnovel is poorer, you save on printing costs and space, etc. and I agree that it's bad that rewards are reduced. I also sympathize because I feel the sting of getting less spirit stones. But let's not pretend the books here cost more than buying a book at a bookshop, because they don't.
Even multiplier also can't. Due to error. Not sure what's happening with webnovel
Wealthydollybhatia
they think those newbie can’t cope up so that they do the updateshit.
Wealthydollybhatia
they think those newbie can’t cope up so that they do the updateshit.
DarkEnergy21
they said its for those newbies so that they can catch up what a stupid updateshit.
Wealthydollybhatia they lowered all the rewards to 5 too.
Wealthydollybhatia they lowered all the rewards to 5 too.
Tomoyuki The price makes sense. It's just the difference in quality between traditional novels and those on Webnovel are pretty drastic, which is what makes me hesitate. Not to mention, series on this site literally go on for HUNDREDS of chapters, which amps up the total price for the series. There are books I'd prefer to rent as library books, and those I want to buy to keep. Most of the series I've encountered on Webnovel are not what I would necessarily consider buying.
I guess that's what makes it easier to drop series when Webnovel does dumb things like this. I was able to drop over twelve Webnovel series when I gritted my teeth for this change.
[unknown] are you stupid or something because yes these books cost alot more to read than going and buying a book from the store and all these reductions we're getting with the new update fucking sucks ass
[unknown] are you stupid or something because yes these books cost alot more to read than going and buying a book from the store and all these reductions we're getting with the new update fucking sucks ass
Tomoyuki are you stupid or something because yes these books cost alot more to read than going and buying a book from the store and all these reductions we're getting with the new update fucking sucks ass
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Hunter_Roberts I literally did the math for you. You provided nothing, no calculations, no math, no examples of prices or costs, and just insulted me. In what world is a $6 webnovel more expensive than a $8-$12 (and I'm not even counting those that cost $16-$20) novels of the same word count from a bookstore? Are you really that bad at math? Or delusional?
ResidentialPsycho I know what you mean, and that's fair. The quality of webnovels certainly are not as good as those sold in bookstores, that's for sure.
A lot of these novels can be read elsewhere for less. Which is apparently where my business is now going (and yes, I've spent actual money on series here).
WN reduced the amount of free SS. So be it.
I will drop many novel. I just stop buying SS. In the past with my saving free SS I bought SS to read 100-300 chapter on my favorite novel.
In my country there are systems similar to WN but the difference between the two is I can read 1500-1800+ chapter chinese novel translation in my language for free. There is lock chapter for people who cant wait and can spend money (just like privilege system) . I only spent 10-20$ for lock forever chapter. The downside is you have to wait and there are limit of free chapter to read a day(4-6chapter). But the chapter you free collect never lock again.
It's legal not piracy.
I'd rather spend my money on books. This year I spent more than 800$ on books. I bought chinese novel series ( translate in my language) with boxset and got gift like scarf, cleaning mobile clothe with printing character series etc.
I didn't get my weekly check-in bonus 50SS (which is now 20), and thanks to this update, the whole reason why I loved this platform is GONE. Please, don't pressure us to buy SS or Privilege, because as a student I'm broke, and others share the same fate.
New update to get back to having video reward, 50SS for a whole week of checking in, other things so bringing back the old version, which we had around a month/two months ago!
Tomoyuki $6 novel here? which novel here can you read for 6 Dollar? I did the math, $7.99 is 400 Coins. That is with 8 coins for 1 chapter (average) 50 chapters. Lets say a novel has 200 chapters here, that makes 1600 coins, that is 31,96 Dollars (most novels have way more chapters)
A real book with the same amount of storyline is way less expensive
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Kandoral In what world does a real book/novel have 200 chapters? Please show me a real book/novel that has 200 chapters.
A normal Japanese light novel that's adapted from a web novel on Syousetsuka ni Narou would have 10 to 20 chapters. That would an equivalent of 80 to 160 coins, which is $1.60, or $3.20 per novel. How the hell did you get $31.96 per volume!? 200 chapters is basically the equivalent of 10 to 20 volumes. Let me give you the benefit of the doubt and say it's 10 volumes - you're basically buying each volume for around $3. Traditional Japanese light novels are sold at $12-15 on retail, if you buy from Kinokuniya.
And my calculations already asssume the high end of having each novel being about 30 chapters each. That's an equivalent of 240 coins, and $4.80 (I calculated $6, based on having each chapter be 10 coins each rather than 8).
Are you guys really, really bad at math? Who the hell calculates an entire series that's hundreds or even thousands of chapters long as one novel? It's obvious that you follow the next closest thing - the Japanese light novel and Syousetsuka ni narou model, and divide a single series into voumes. Do you complain about having to buy 20 volumes of Sword Art Online at $240?! No, right? That's because it's a single series divided into several volumes! What about Tate Yuusha no Nariagari (Rise of the Shield Hero)? Did you pretend that the hundreds of chapters on Syousetsuka ni Narou are the equivalent of one novel, or do you buy the 10+ volumes that have been officially published? Do you complain about having to spend $150 to buy 12 volumes of Arifureta Shokugyou de Sekai Saikyou (which started off as a webnovel series)?
My goodness, how on earth do you guys calculate? Or are you so obsessed with wanting free stuff that you're trying to blatantly pass off several volumes' worth of content as a single novel and demanding to pay much less?
Yeah, the quality of the novels here are pretty bad, but you're already paying a lower price than you would for normal professionally published novels. Not to mention, here you are actually paying for speed and frequency of update as opposed to waiting for months for a paperback volume to come out. And you're already paying like 25% of the prices of standard novels on retail, how much lower do you want the prices to go? Should webnovel writers write for free then?
Your attitudes just tell me you want to worm your way out of paying for content, or wanting to shortchange writers and content providers. I don't care about Webnovel or the company or the website itself, but I'm annoyed by how readers claim everything is unaffordable and expensive when it's not, and demanding that writers and content creators suck it up and sell their works for what amounts to slavery levels of payment.
ResidentialPsycho tru i droped a bunch of them and i now read only one or two chapters a day from one novel
People will have to get used to this or leave. It's a cycle that keeps repeating itself with this awful company. There's never any information given to users, never any guarantee that they're not going to shaft users down the line, and no remorse nor apologies given when they finally do. Rinse and repeat every few months.
I'd never spend money with them purely because I can't trust them. The chances of them screwing things up for me down the line are too high given their track record; whether it be increasing prices on chapters or suddenly changing rates of SS, meaning my reading flow goes out of whack. They should desire trust from customers, but they don't care. Failed business model imho.
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Tomoyuki Who the hell calculates an entire series that's hundreds or even thousands of chapters long as one novel?
I don't want to argue prices, just an opinion: when people think of a book, they like to think that a story in one book/volume has a clear ending (or an ending with continuation in another book/volume). And they didn't want to buy another book/volume to finish a storyline of a volume.
And what you doing here:
Tomoyuki 200 chapters is basically the equivalent of 10 to 20 volumes.
goes against logic what book is, where you taking random 200 chapters, and just split it to volumes.
Usually, one volume of web novel has 90-130 chapters (differs not just between novels, even the same novel can have differences like that in volumes).
And when I'm buying a book, I'm buying a story as a whole, I don't care will there bee 800 or 750 pages (or equal amount of words/chapters), while you sticking to prices for wordcount.
And I think that every author gets paid for a book by the number of books was bought/printed, not for amount of words in it.
And the job where you got paid for wordcount are copywriter, not the book author.
Pls, correct me if I'm wrong.
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Exinaus Uh, yeah, you're wrong. I literally used the Japanese light novel and online Syousetsuka ni Narou model as examples. It's not random 200 chapters that are split into volumes. And obviously a 800-page book will cost double of a 400-page book.
For example, let's take Arifureta Shokuyou de Sekai Saikyou, for example. The original webnovel has almost 400 chapters. Did Kadokawa package all 400 chapters into a single "novel"? No, they didn't. They divided it into volumes, each featuring 10 chapters, and about 250 pages per volume (that's about 75,000 words per volume). If you try to cram all 400 chapters into a single volume, you'll have a book that's 10,000 pages long. That's super impractical.
Tate no Yuusha no nariagari also has 400 webnovel chapters posted online on Syousetsuka. When they package it and publish it as novels, they divided it into volumes of 8 to 10 chapters each. it's highly impractical to bundle all 400 chapters, or even 200 chapters into a single novel.
Okay, you're not fine with the Japanese example? Let's look at Qidian novels then.
Let's look at Coiling Dragon. Each volume has 25 chapters each. And there are 40 volumes of it. Same with Battle through the Heavens. They split up half of the entire story into about 20 volumes (as far as I know), and they are still releasing the rest of the chapters in other volumes, which will probably go up to volume 40 at this rate. Who is going to bundle 1,000 chapters into a single volume that's probably going to be 10,000 to 20,000 pages long and sell it for the price of a single 400-page novel?
Yeah, you are wrong if you think every author gets paid solely by the number of books bought/printed. That's commission alone, but obviously you get paid more the higher your word count. J. K. Rowling's Goblet of Fire was twice the price of her earlier books because it was twice the length, and since she earns based on percentage (or royalties), she naturally earns a higher income for the books where she has a higher number of pages. Same goes for the writers of Black Library. They don't earn the same amount of money for a short story as they do for a full-length novel (yes, and they do sell short stories). Black Library also sells eBooks, and since they are professionally written, edited and published, they are naturally a lot more expensive than the ones here on Qidian or Webnovel. Even without the cost of publishing, printing, distribution and whatever, as you claimed in your other post. They are only a couple of dollars cheaper than the hard copies (so a full-length eBook can cost up to $18). Writers are paid by percentages (or royalties). So they're going to earn more from the $15-18 full-length novel that they wrote than they are from their $3.99 short story or $8 novella.
I don't know how you can cram 90-130 chapters into a single book, not unless each chapter has about only 1,000 words. Otherwise it's super-impractical, and thick books naturally cost a lot more than thin books. You don't see a 600-page novel being sold at the same price as a 250-page novel. R.L.Stine's 120-page Goosebumps novel is only $7 in comparison to Ian Douglas's $15 320-page Star Carrier novel. Not unless you're talking about Harry Potter books, which are being sold at a discounted price after 10 years in distribution.
And you want to carry around a 800-page novel? Be my guest. Most consumers don't want to do that. By the way, that 800-page novel of yours is certainly going to cost you about $30-35, judging from prices I paid for (based on estimates from Royall Tyler's translation of Genji Monogatari or the Tale of Heike, which are over 700 pages long).
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Tomoyuki For example, let's take Arifureta Shokuyou de Sekai Saikyou, for example. The original novel has almost 400 chapters. Did Kadokawa package all 400 chapters into a single "novel"? No, they didn't. They divided it into volumes, each featuring 10 chapters, and about 250 pages per volume (that's about 75,000 words per volume).
Well, yes and no. They did split 400 chapters into a volume, but not with "each featuring 10 chapters".
Each volume had a clear "ending". In the first volume, MC left the labyrinth, in second - met rabbit girl, and his journey to the second labyrinth, etc. (i dropped that novel somewhere in the middle, so I don't remember endings of other volumes, and i'm not sure how many chapters were in each volume).
Coiling Dragon had 23 chapters in the first volume, 17 in fifth, 32 in the sixth, and 64 in the 19th and 44 in the last one (i can write chapters count for every volume, that' jus few of them for examples). It wasn't split like you said "20 chapters per volume". And the difference in price between 5 and 19 is not 3 times, which according to your logic should be since 19 volume has 3 times more chapters (and word count) in it.
Also, don't forget that the current payment system and prices for chapters in webnovel.com were established on quidan.com based on prices 100 SS = 1 RMB ~= $0.16 (then, now it's $0.14). And you are trying to defend current prices of 500 SS = $10 USD with the same system and SS prices for chapters.
Tomoyuki J. K. Rowling's Goblet of Fire was twice the price of her earlier books because it was twice the length
Right, it didn't have any impact from rising popularity, shooting movies at that time based on books, etc. etc. Just from a word count.
P.S. webnovel.com is a platform for new and amateur writers, are you seriously expecting that your books should be paid as books of Rowling, Martin, and other already famous writers?
Or famous Asian series, witch had anime/mangas, etc. and other stuff based on them?
Wealthydollybhatia webnovels has been doing secret updates no more video in rewards and the SS for reading time has been reduced and it's a fixed 5 SS every check in now
This whole stuff is particularly annoying... I thought am the only one who saw this changes, I didn't complain when they went on premium and even when they brought privilege nonsense because I believe it will affect greedy people who can't wait for normal update(PS am not insulting anyone).. But why reduce reward when authors hasn't reduce the amount of ss spent on a chapter?. This is absolute wickedness, webnovel aren't fair to readers 
.... I don't even receive weekend bonus of 20 ss as you guys stated, and I don't understand this coin bullshit