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MotivatedSloth I will not even bother to go through your essay point by point since you're so determined that you're right. In the meantime, people do know where they can get content (and I'm not just talking about reading material, I am talking about entertainment in its many forms) at whatever quality they are willing to put up with, but it has become increasingly obvious that Webnovel is not the place for good content at a price that most people are willing to pay for. And before you go off writing another essay about what prices people pay, people do pay with their time watching stupid ads or they pay with their money. Sucks for Webnovel that people here prefer to pay with their attention instead of their own money. Too bad they went after a market that was only there because content was free when independent translators were working on these novels. You don't need to go into another lengthy explanation about the history of this site, people get it, but the fact remains that it was free in the beginning, and that's what got many people into it in the first place. People are not as dumb as you assume, many of them just don't have the time or the patience to argue extensively about something like this.

I don't get where you imply that I am advocating stealing or whatever that was you were trying to say. Oh well. I never said that but if your reading comprehension takes you in that direction, go have fun with it. Anyway, Moboreader is one such site where you can read for free using ads, subscribe per month, or pay per chapter. There are independent translator sites with licensed content. Then, like I said, there's always Youtube, network tv or whatever for entertainment. Of course you will find whatever argument again to say x or y or whatever sucks or does not make money or whatever, in the meantime, the consumers know what they want and are willing to put up with regardless of whatever arguments you can come up with that they should pay since they already pay for a lot of other things. So go ahead, stay on your high horse and keep calling people dumb and entitled. It does not make people sympathetic to your cause, and in the meantime, people are still either leaving or just finding more ways to read here for free.

      SnowFairy
      Same here, I think I'll stop reading too and get back to reading the books I have at home I bought a lot I am still yet to read cos I gave my time to reading webnovels

        ace_cap
        Since Im on the phone going to get drunk, i wont bother trying to let you understand reality. Sooner or later life will come and slap your face harder than you can imagine, forcing yoi to either accept the beating or learn the basic of this world to avoid another hit.

        I never denied that there are ways to spend your time without paying outright. But you keep denying that you can enjoy novels here for free. In other words, people like you will come and leave, not affecting dedicated readers or hardworking authors at all. But from how far you are willing to go in this discussion alone, I can see that you are actually emotionally attached to this site, meaning that you are hurt by the changes.

        While I understand that when you get something for free and suddenly.its amount decreases, you will be upset and sad. But that simply doesn't mean you are entilted to anything.

        I won't go as far as to explain that most of the other sites are either pirating or working in short term, because the amount of money they make is simply too small to sustain it. You wouldn't accept the harsh reality anyway.

        So all I can do is wish that your sites of choosing will last longer than they normally do.

        And now a quick word of explanation.
        To improve the quality of the originals, ypu need to pay authors enough to make them improve or improve schemes that will force them to do so. Fast pass (limiting the amount that people can read for free) is one of them, as it greatly increases the competition for readers.

        If you want to translate new novels or improve the translation of others, you need to pay for it.

        To improve anything you complain about in wn, ypu need money, and there is simply not enough users to allow you to sustain those increasing costs by ads. They bring just pitiful amount of money. Thats why i think, they are aiming to improve quality now. When it will be done, they might implement other schemes to increase the number of readers. Thats why. Nothing is free in this world.

            ace_cap Very well said. I hope people will get enlightened on what you said. The concensus are not asking too much, theyre not asking everything for free but to be more flexible with the changes, but we get others who will tell you that there's no free in this world. It sounded so domineering, very butally said without emotions people know this but saying it in your face is truly a face slap. I like how yanyueyue explained everything without really getting free loaders irritated she explains things with respect so to my fellow novel readers check her detailed explanation on the forum. I stopped voicing out my frustrations as I had seen comments from pro WN and how some of them belittle free loaders.

              uniqueokorie you have to pay for the coins with real world money if you really want to buy them for the prices that they are asking for on WebNovel.

                  uniqueokorie you have to pay for the coins with real world money if you really want to buy them for the prices that they are asking for on WebNovel.

                      Heyyou true. The new version of WEBNOVEL you have to buy coins to read your favorite stories. Fast pass is not enough to enjoy the stories you love. Unlike the older version where you can earns spirit stones easily.

                          Heyyou true. The new version of WEBNOVEL you have to buy coins to read your favorite stories. Fast pass is not enough to enjoy the stories you love. Unlike the older version where you can earns spirit stones easily.

                              Heyyou true. The new version of WEBNOVEL you have to buy coins to read your favorite stories. Fast pass is not enough to enjoy the stories you love. Unlike the older version where you can earns spirit stones easily.

                                WEBNOVEL_OFFICIAL at the same time removing daily free 3 random novels. Before I spend more than 1000 mins weekly now hardly finish 900 mins mission.

                                    What is the use of reward on reading section if i cannot claim

                                      What is the use of reward on reading section if i cannot claim

                                      The app is aids. That's why I download epubs from the underground and use moon reader.

                                        WEBNOVEL_OFFICIAL I feel my free fast coins is not adding properly after I checkin or its simply been deducted without my knowledge

                                            Heyyou agree with you..my reading decrease quite bad coz i don't have enough pass and coins and i don't have enough money to topup my coins 😅

                                                Heyyou agree with you..my reading decrease quite bad coz i don't have enough pass and coins and i don't have enough money to buy coins 😅

                                                    MotivatedSloth It's almost cute how you think you're the only one aware of how the real world works when your naivete keeps shining through. You can make all your assumptions about me and reading into what I write with whatever your comprehension gives you. I'm simply making observations and laughing at how superior you think you are. Good luck with the idea that you can charge readers whatever you like when consumers know they are not limited to this site for entertainment. And I'm not advocating anything, just stating the obvious. You can stay in denial all you want. People don't have to resort to piracy to be entertained. Hope you deal with disappointment well.

                                                        ace_cap

                                                        You see, I'm tired of hearing the mantras of people like you (people who use said mantras) and then claiming to be unfairly judged to be naive/misinformed/lacking in knowledge. If you were to hear some kid (just making an example, not implying you are a kid. I personally believe you are someone in late teens but before reaching the adulthood) arguing that there are no numbers lesser than 0 or even that 2+2=5, you will call them silly. But if you see someone on the internet doing the same, then you will be at first flabbergasted, and then angered when they start calling you names while hatefully trying to push their point while not using commonly accepted ways to do so.

                                                        My attitude towards you changed when I saw you using those mantras and misconceptions. Why can I speak out about ads? Because I used to manage some sites that earned from them. Why can I speak about ads on youtube? Because there is a great amount of people that explained this topic thoroughly. But what are you offering in your "arguments?"

                                                        So far, you are doing one of the four things and compose all your replies with mix of those.
                                                        1) Belittling me personally and thus proving that arguments (not sure about the word here, points I'm bringing?) can't be true because such a person like me brought them.
                                                        2) Using myths and half-truths. (like, tv is free, other sites are free)
                                                        3) Dissing the whole idea of paying for something that used to be illegally stolen and free, then turned to legal and free and after all this time, the rightful owner has the balls to demand some remuneration for their rights/license/hard work.
                                                        4) Coming up with something I never said, shoving it down my throat and using it to prove me wrong.

                                                        Looking at your post above, let me list out how its constructed.

                                                        1 and 4/1/1 and 4/3 and 4 and im too tired to take apart the rest of your sentences.

                                                        Look up ignorantio elenchi and ad homiem then look back at your post. You are making classic discussion mistakes that prove that you are using your emotions to argue, not fact.

                                                        This aproach to the discussion is way below my bottom line. If you want to recieve any response from me, then please, try to eradicate this kind of arguments from your post, describe in detail the logic behind your reasoning, bring references to the sources and authoritets you can rely upon. Then and only then you will be qualified recieve my response. I simply learned that there is so much better things to do than arguing with people like you in a hard way.

                                                        Wish you luck in improving your rhetoric.

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