How long does it usually take to reach a million views?
How long does it take to reach a million views for an original novel?
It all depends on the name, theme, content of the novel and the smoothness of the letter. If at the same time a good grammar, then usually 1-2 months. If you look at some of the work of my friends.
If only the good content is really very interesting, and the average grammar is then 10 months, if not 1 year.
I have interesting content, but there are grammatical errors. Over 11 months, a little less than 200,000 people watched.
Wow. That's really a very long time. Well, it's fair enough, million people won't just stumble upon an unknown novel from a newbie. Thanks anyway
Yes, promotion also plays a role. Usually this happens through a review, but no one will come in and give just that. Usually this is done through a swap or an honest review in the topics on the forum. Voting with stones, more reviews, more ratings, 60-80 reviews. But it is not sports. I got 10 reviews, this is enough to go out of the shadow into the rating. Further, it all depends on the novel itself, which sleeps on two pillars - good grammar and a good and interesting plot.
Impurr_fectionist 1m views does not equate 1m people. It's enough for someone to clicks your novel, and a view is counted. As @Gourmet_DAO said, there are cases where people get it in 2 moths time, if they skyrocket from the start. I know a guy who did this in around 2.5 months, and he has a good ranking as well as became contracted very early. He also releases at least 7 chapters a week? Or perhaps more than that.
It is possible to gain such views rather quickly (but mostly for contracted novels). In case of not contracted novels, I'd say 5 months is very good too (in other words 200k views a month, that is not little by all means). A year is... people read it sure, but the interest is not that great basically. As he mentioned, it will depend on the story, your ability to churn out chapters like crazy and if you are contracted or not.
DarkRay Yes, for sure, I lost sight of the contact.
Who has a contract is promoted using the administrative resource of the site, applying marketing moves for higher readability. This is a business!
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There's also a reality that stories won't move in reads here if it's not suited for WN mass reading audience.
I follow a story that has been sitting on 85k views for a year. It's good quality grammar and story telling, but in depth and with complex arcs.
From what an editor here has advised. As I understand it. WN casual readers aren't after deep, slow build plot lines that is found in traditional books. Simple, fast and compelling is what works.
Stories that requires a lot of expanded thinking and having to take time to understand concepts etc, doesn't cut it. At least from my understanding of editors' advice. So these stories are less likely to reach 1M views within a year.
Basically, WN requests for your cheap trash that is easily replaceable. Gotcha. :stuck_out_tongue:
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It depends a lot of how much you can be promoted early on.
-1st: An original novel can appear in new ranking only if it has more than 15k words and less than 30 days. So if you update too slowly or few words, you will maybe never appear in these rankings. You lost your best chance to promote yourself.
-2nd: WPC contest: Even bad stories will get a lot of attention during the contest if they're participating. The winner is featured, but you can also be featured anyway without doing any WPC contests if Webnovel judges that your story has potential.
- High release rates: Your views will soar in the 2-3 hours following the release. If you can update twice a day, don't release them at the same time. (8-12% daily views are obtained in the hour following the release)
- Every chapter viewed(even read for 1sec) counts for the public view counter. It means that if you did 100 views with 1 chapter and the story was interesting, you can expect 1000 views per day with 10 chapters, 10k with 100 chapters ect.. Normally the growth rate should soar the more chapters your story have. (but not necessarily the valid views on your dashboard) If not, you can consider it a failure and would be better starting all over again with a new one.
kazesenken er, well, I guess if you put it like that
itās like views of deep in content, multi-level meanings, sometimes hidden in some images, of old Tarkovsky films like āSolarisā or āStalkerā. Films are very difficult, even heavy, it is difficult to watch them. But then they are from the genre - for eggheads. And you can watch simple, funny, uplifting moods of the drama "Agricultural Stories" or Drunken Master 2, Project A, Snack Bar on Wheels. Personally, I will choose films from Jackie. Since life itself is very complicated and by no means so cheerful.
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I understand your point. The slightest info dump in chapter 1 is bashed when many international printed best-sellers start by a very informative prologue, sometimes up to 10k words long.
However, the genre has a big role to play too i think. Some kinds of stories are just more popular.
Arkinslize Wow, that is, you need to publish at least 2-3 chapters a day to be popular?
I've tried to write raw materials with a gram-check program, 2-3 chapters a day. But it is so tiring, at the beginning of 4 weeks I was exhausted. And I hasten to complete the novel as soon as possible. It has only 100 chapters.
By the way, I saw novels in them 24 chapters and 60 thousand views. I have 82 chapters and 24,000 views. Since I did not start, write immediately 2-3 chapters a day.
So either you need to write like a computer, by the way I saw word generators for verses somewhere on the network, I wonder if there are machine generators for short stories ... it would be really hard to read if the machine wrote novels and someone else it would increase the rating (offtopic)
Arkinslize If not, you can consider it a failure and would be better starting all over again with a new one.
Too soon? What about giving the story a shot of revision first. A story can be as good as its 1000th edit. There's also researching the target audience better to try to fit? Better yet, find the target audience. WN is not the only place to reach 1M views.
I think it's too easy to give up on a story because it doesn't attract immediate results. There's all that growth as a writer going down the drain at not having to try to revise the plot or mechanisms, research more on market and retry.
I believe that only when all options and avenues have been tried and not giving results, to put the story aside. Or rethink it from a different angle.
Sometimes not giving up can gain some valuable growth insight.
I don't think much is gained when giving up after a few handful of chapter posts. It also might give readers a view of unreliability if they happen to see stories consistently being dropped after a few chapters by author because of not reaching a desired veiw count.
WN contracts ask for commitment to story completion. Dropping after a few chapter posts is also not a good habit to hone.
Just my 2 cents.
Veronica8 How complicated it is! Well, a good story, in theory, I have to read for a long time, delete repeated words, add new turns. use synonyms. To grind every word occupied, then from the point of view of grammar, spelling and syntax, everything will be fine. But at the same time we need a dynamically developing plot, an interesting story. Perhaps without fillers. But it takes time. Therefore, it will not be possible to publish 2-3 chapters a day, unless you write a novel right away, and then just publish 2-3 chapters a day?
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What i meant by failure is that you should start anew. It can be the same story, entirely revised, but at least you get the chance to be in new rankings and have some visibility again. Even better, if you change the title and the cover.
Especially, if your valid views have dropped on a day to day basis and the average number of chapters read keep lowering as well. If it's like this for months, it means your retention rate has become bad. The issue is that even if you revise your problematics chapters, the old readers that stopped reading you won't miraculously give a new read to your story. In their head, your story has already been labelled. The oldest your story, the highest will be the number of readers you definitely lost.
That's what i would do. I take all the advices, i keep what is good and remove what is bad, then start anew.
Of course, if you're contracted or aiming for paper edition, then finish your novel and take your time. It is another situation.
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Gourmet_DAO I guess it is based on genre. I've observed historical fiction take months to gain views, but some contemporary romance take weeks. Fantasy is a hit and miss target range. Especially if the lead is female and there's no romance. The reader pick-up is harder there.
Keep at it, to your own pace. Some readers do hang around for updates whenever they arrive as long as they know the story isn't going to be dropped.
Arkinslize Aah okay. Sorry. I mistook as dropping the story. Thanks for clarifying.
It is better to release 2-3 chapters a day, but update stability is the most important. However, whatever is your updating rate, i would advice to stockpile at least 15k words worth of content, so that you can appear in new ranking the first day.( I didn't do this though haha) You will also have a top rank in release ranking for the week coming.
Veronica8 Yep, that is exactly why my novel has such a shit ranking :D I saw it myself, how people overtook mine in views. But, I write how I like. I write the story I want to write, not a story based on popular tags and famous titles. At the end of the day, I see those who appreciate and actually analyse the book. They think about the plot, and events. I much prefer that with a smaller audience, than mindless reading with millions of views. Something people don't really pursue here I noticed.
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Veronica8
Thank you very much for the valuable advice, Iāll try to apply them to the new gourmet novel. In the meantime, you need to finish at least two novels from 4. Respect !!!
Estedei! the film of 2019, there for 10 seconds the Internet and the light went out, Google lost all the information about The Beatles and Harry Potter. Maybe that's why you need to backup our novels.
Although on a paper basis, the book lasts at least 200 years! Whereas the data on electronic media information may disappear. The format may change ... and all data will be lost. Paper will not let you down!
Gourmet_DAO I just wanted to share a good novel I liked in this platform( basically Copy Paste) around two weeks. I almost got 200 thousand views. (which resulted in webnovel to see the potential of the novel then they discovered it was copy past and cost it for other people. I didn't really wanted to profit from it. in fact I did asked the translator for the right for it.) anyway I agree with you. for viewers you need interesting story and good name for it.
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The_Good_Devil Famous advertiser O'Gilvey said that a good, capacious, not very long name attracts more people! The second important is a good slogan, the third high-quality product.
Public views don't really matter, but valid views, valid view rate and average number of chapter read are very important.
Because for someone to read you more than one minute definitely means your synopsis was interesting enough and he gave your story a try. I think a valid view rate below 40% or an average number of chapters read below 1 per day shows some problems.
Arkinslize With all due respect, I'm not on this website for a month. I'm aware how statistics work, I simply replied to views. (look at the name of the topic).
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The short and sweet answer (not necessarily to OPās question, but just in how to get a lot of views):
Update daily
There, done.
Yes, the above answers are great. Thus, Iām not repeating it. Basically, no matter how good your story is, or how (un)popular the genre is, as long as you update daily, consistently, youāll get views and a following. Might not be as many as youād like, but forget it if youāre updating only once a week, youāll most likely not be getting 1M in a year. Not even kidding on this. Ofc, whatās mentioned about being strategic in getting on certain lists quickly is very good advice.
If this is any help as a frame of reference.
Iām not contracted, been here for a year. Ignore the stat dump if not interested. :p
Story 1:
- Jan 25th start/~1 year
- original
- entered in a contest for only 3 days
- 48 chapters
- good grammar
- once a week updates
- frequent month hiatuses of no updates/no longer updated on WN
- <200 collections
- 171K
Story 2:
- March 26 start/~ 10 months
- original
- entered in a contest for entire duration and ranked in contest
- 29 chapters
- good grammar
- once a week updates
- frequent month hiatuses of no updates/on hiatus currently until the summer
- 200-300 collections
- 141K views
Story 3:
- April 25 start/~ 9 months
- fanfic
- entered in a contest for entire duration and ranked in contest
- 58 chapters
- good grammar
- once a week updates
- was on hiatus for 4 months/just returned back from hiatus yesterday
- >1000 collections
- 325K views
Make of what you will from this sample info. Basically, this just shows no matter the differences, the longer a novel exists with more chapters = more views. Fanfic doesnāt really count since you asked about originals, but itās still in the same vein. The only major difference is collections number rather than views when looking at original vs fanfic, which makes sense.
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I update 3 times/week. I think I'm at 4 or 5 months, and just about to hit 100k views. Though I think my valid views are pretty good, usually average around 70%. 240 collections, 61 chapters so far.
I guarantee you if you name you novel something like "Re-Born as Grand Harem Sexy System", use a very titillating cover, post 8 chapters a day, and spam a bit you'll reach those million views in a couple of months at most.
I joke but at the same time I'm not. Views and readership are not necessarily the same thing and what determines a book's visibility and clickability is a mass formula of things. What is the genre- what are the hooks? If you get the right hook for a high viewing demographic- then you have you rmillions of views. Same concept in viral video and any curated content.
CCmei Yep, I remember a Writer on here writing a 'harem system novel' as a joke, it got millions of views fast which took him by surprise..
Sorry, i just thought reading you that dashboard stats meant nothing for you. My bad.
It wouldn't have been an issue either. There's probably quite a few authors that don't give a shit about them.
RESUME:
Then it turns out that you just need to write more, and even more, 2500 words a day, to publish 2-3 chapters a day, every day for 1-6 months, so that the number of readers grows? Itās just some kind of cheat, know the technology of attracting readers, this is a game or a marketing ploy.
It turns out so, if of course I understood correctly:
attractive title page
an attractive name - for example, system, revival, romance, medicine, cooking (add as needed)
write a lot, upload 2-3 stories to the website of the web novels with some time intervals
If you write 1400 words per chapter or 2500-3000 words per day, you can get into the trend, some kind of internal rating ?! (in reality, 2,900 words can be written if everything is fine in the real world, if not so much then 300 words or even nothing at all).
If you do not constantly update, then readers will leave, as well as subscriptions will be reduced
the quality of writing, a minimum of grammatical errors, attract or make those who come to the light of the trend stay (their expectations were not deceived)
interesting content (if it is more interesting, it even allows you to close your eyes to not very good English grammar)
rating by wrapping reviews and stones
update the review, to 30-90 reviews (but itās not interesting, 10 reviews are enough to enter the formal rating. And swap is not very sporty. But nevertheless this seems to be the only way for a beginner to attract at least some that attention)
Advertising through the forum
As a result: a large number of views is determined not so much by the quality of the novel as by the efficiency of the author, he can write 4,000 words a day, he can publish 2-3 chapters every day throughout his entire novel!
Quality is in second place.
That is, in fact, there are two conditional groups, maybe several of them:
those who want to get a contract and they need 1,000,000 readers
those who need 1,000,000 readers and do not need a contract, this 1,000,000 pleasantly flatters self-esteem, a sense of self-worth, something else, each has its own cockroaches
those who care about not statistics, but improving their romance, quality and not quantity
those who do not care about statistics, anyway, at the rating, they publish their thoughts as they can, the creative process itself is important to them
I personally do not really care about the rating, the statistic is interesting in terms of research, how many people watch me per day? Can I write 3,000 words a day? if I can, how many days, weeks, months can I write? when will I be out of breath? How many subscriptions do I have? How do my texts, improved after verification, editing, affect my subscriptions? or more importantly just the speed of writing chapters in the form of simple raw materials? At the same time, I would like to improve the letter itself so that there are emotions, that there is interesting information (Iām not always sure how to beat this information).
There are probably some other ideas.
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This trick 100% would work in getting the views, who cares if your story is good or not.
- Update daily.
2.Clickbait title and cover.
3.Of course, a clickbait synopsis that didn't explain anything about your story.
4.Get 10 rating at least, to light it up as not many actually read a story that didn't have rating.
As for how long, it depends.
It takes me a few months to get a million views with 2k collections, even though I write the story for WPC and lost.
I also didn't expect to get an offer for a contract, and since it would help in getting readers on WN, why not?
It's a small price to get my shameless ass known
Wow! That is, relatively non-sports technology, promotion works 100 percent!
And those who think that self-promotion is not sports, in fact, are with fewer views?
That is, ratings are more likely the authorās ability to understand how the world of WebNovel works and to be able to get to the top using the technology of wrapping, and not the quality of writing and the interestingness of the story?
Very entertaining!
Thanks!
I somewhat feel sad that I only get 1 colection per day on average, sometimes not at all. I even think my views are getting stagnant now, but my first book was worse, it stopped at only 18 collections with 100k+ words. I didnt understand collections at first thus I reached that far, sigh. Although, I'm confident that I'm good as a writer, I think Im one of those guys who draws the shortest stick. I love writing three dimensional characters, but I can't bring myself to create a gary stu that everyone fawns upon. If maybe I would be done with my novel I would study systems and make a novel out of it, since my genres never click.
So I recently started writing a novel, I have nearly 1k views in less than a week but no reviews. I've written nearly 7k words and plan to write alot more. I have a clear story idea and good grammar/ storytelling, at least I think I do. any advive for me on promoting my novel?
Demonic_Tendencies There is this nice person on the forums offering to write reviews (https://forum.webnovel.com/d/53591-full-lenght-detailed-reviews-on-offer/27). You can check it out and see if it is something you might be interested in. Just note that there might be a line!
Demonic_Tendencies 1k views is less than nothing. Keep writing and you will get reviews/comments/votes organicaly.
Hello everyone, my name is Alicia Yon and I am new to this website. I have written a novel, but unfortunately, it seems that no one is reading it. I was hoping to get some guidance on what I can do to get more people interested in my work.
Would anyone be willing to offer advice or suggestions on how I can promote my book and reach a wider audience? I would be grateful for any help you can offer.
Thank you for taking the time to read my message. I look forward to hearing your thoughts.
I have written more than 19k words in 3 days but it is not ranked in update ranking.Can anyone solve my problem