shelwyn I didn't rant about them. I know they started as fan translator. I'm ranting about QI, who wants us to pay more for it than professionally translated novels. Yes the authors also need to be rewarded, but they clearly write for word count and realize this with repetitions and fillers, so that also has to be accounted for in the price imho

    Yakumo Authors that publish books also write to make money I don't see your point. Any really horrid word count story gets absolutely smashed in reviews and has junk reader count anyway.

      shelwyn That's your subjective opinion, whereas my post was objective comparision...

        shelwyn I never read any western novel with as many repetitions or filler scenes like in these chinese webnovels. I only read ~14 of them so far, but in at least half of them I saw chapters which you could summarize with 1 sentence without losing plot. Yes, that's a subjective feeling but I think that I'm not the only one who thinks alot of chapters are stretched immensely without adding value to the story.

          Yakumo I can give you a hint.

          I pay $20 dollars a month for 7 chapters of early access to Mystical Journey.

          I pay $10 dollars a month for 4 chapters of early access to Mansion in a post apocalyptic world.

          I pay $50 dollars a month to Super Stars of Tomorrow for early access to 14 chapters of early access on patreon.

          The Strongest Gene used to cost $80 A month for 25 chapters of early access. That one is premium now.

          Tell me, is patreon chapter or more expensive than spirit stones? Lmao.

            shelwyn all I saw was "early access", here you get a faster release... 2 different services

              Yakumo Let me help straighten your brain out a bit.

              80+20+10+50 = $160
              160 x3 months = $480

              9 packs of $50 spirit stones for 7500 (2500)
              1 pack of $20 spirit stones 3000 (1000)
              1 pack of $10 spirit stones 1500 (500)
              So in three months I could have

              9x 7500 (2500 permanent) =67,500 (22,500)
              1x 3000 (1000 permanent) = 3000 (1000)
              1x 1500 (500 permanent) = 1500 (500)
              In three months of patreon payments I could buy 72,000 (24,000 permanent) spirit stones.
              At 20 spirit stones a chapter I could buy 3,600 chapters here. Those are some expensive chapters too.
              At 14 spirit stones a chapter I could buy 5,142 chapters.

              That's three months worth of patreon payments for me.

                shelwyn you speak for the rich minority

                but, the majority of people cannot survive with this system if many novels become premium in the future

                  Tomz Why cant the majority survive, there are always free chapters daily. QI also provides free spirit stones 20-30 a day.

                    Tomz Its who this system is made for. My numbers are way high but it's because reading novels is my hobby. Paid books light novels I buy them and read. The spirit stones are for the user base that's willing to pay for their entertainment.

                    Free users still have free spirit stones and get chapters as well. Sure they're not fast as the paid users but they're not exactly left out to rot either.

                    It's just another form if entertainment. How many hours will you usually put into a 50 dollar video game? 60? How many hours will 7500 spirit stones get you in entertainment?

                    It's just another form of paying for your entertainment. Some might buy a fishing rod and some bait and fish. Or a bicycle or a ball for sports. Maybe go out to the movies, there s lots of things to use money on that keeps you busy. This is just another one of them.

                      shelwyn And now let's compare the release rate upgrade:
                      patreon: 0$, max release rate for everyone. There you pay for advanced chapters, but not more chapters per week
                      premium: ~12sschaptersPerWeek for max release rate
                      sarcasm onWow, I got max release rate for free before this system kicked in? It is so much cheaper now that I have to pay for this max release rate, which I got for free previouslysarcasm off*
                      Again, I am not saying that I want everything for free, but comparing patreon with this premium system and praising QI is like comparing apples and oranges...

                        PurpleMagicCube
                        Witch expire 1 month later
                        If you continue like that, later, every days you will win 30 free ss and lose 30 ss who expire

                          Yakumo And now let's compare the release rate upgrade:
                          patreon: 0$, max release rate for everyone. There you pay for advanced chapters, but not more chapters per week
                          premium: ~12ss*chaptersPerWeek for max release rate
                          *sarcasm on*Wow, I got max release rate for free before this system kicked in? It is so much cheaper now that I have to pay for this max release rate, which I got for free previously*sarcasm off*
                          Again, I am not saying that I want everything for free, but comparing patreon with this premium system and praising QI is like comparing apples and oranges...

                          Forgot to escape the *

                            Yakumo Sounds like your complaining about not having paid any money on patreon, donation or otherwise before and getting it all free. Now that the fastest release rates are not free your just here to complain. Lol.

                              Cless Aren't you going to use the SS? It would be dumb to complain that you can't open premium chapters because they are locked when you have the Spirit stones. SS are not decorations, they have a use. "can't teach s_____d."

                                shelwyn nope, if you'd have read my earlier posts, you'd think otherwise. My recent posts where only there to prove that you cannot compare patreon and premium system, so every post stating that this is better than patreon, is baseless, since they are 2 totally different services with different offers/benefits.
                                But hey, your post just fits with nearly every other pro premium post here, with their lack of facts and resorting to bashing of free readers or ppl with (based) opinions.

                                Heva
                                okay, now just go to amazon and search random paperback novel, it would cost around 10$ each.
                                and that is a whole book with proper english.
                                heck, even japanese novel with hardcover and great quality paper and ilustration are around 13$, on kindle even less. try search danmachi, overlord, death march, youjo senki, etc, paperback it's all around 13$ or less.

                                shelwyn
                                do you know that patreon cost more because it is not intended for everyone.
                                patreon allows the content creator to get money from content they made, basically you 'hire' them directly to keep making content as a support, and as a gratitude they give you some exclusive content according to your contribution.
                                while now they are on qidian, they already got paid by qidian, and qidian sells the product to us, and they only got miniscule of what you paid in SS as an extra bonus.
                                And now everyone that wants to read premium chapter are required to pay inflated prices.

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