Yakumo Let me help straighten your brain out a bit.

80+20+10+50 = $160
160 x3 months = $480

9 packs of $50 spirit stones for 7500 (2500)
1 pack of $20 spirit stones 3000 (1000)
1 pack of $10 spirit stones 1500 (500)
So in three months I could have

9x 7500 (2500 permanent) =67,500 (22,500)
1x 3000 (1000 permanent) = 3000 (1000)
1x 1500 (500 permanent) = 1500 (500)
In three months of patreon payments I could buy 72,000 (24,000 permanent) spirit stones.
At 20 spirit stones a chapter I could buy 3,600 chapters here. Those are some expensive chapters too.
At 14 spirit stones a chapter I could buy 5,142 chapters.

That's three months worth of patreon payments for me.

      shelwyn you speak for the rich minority

      but, the majority of people cannot survive with this system if many novels become premium in the future

          Tomz Why cant the majority survive, there are always free chapters daily. QI also provides free spirit stones 20-30 a day.

              Tomz Its who this system is made for. My numbers are way high but it's because reading novels is my hobby. Paid books light novels I buy them and read. The spirit stones are for the user base that's willing to pay for their entertainment.

              Free users still have free spirit stones and get chapters as well. Sure they're not fast as the paid users but they're not exactly left out to rot either.

              It's just another form if entertainment. How many hours will you usually put into a 50 dollar video game? 60? How many hours will 7500 spirit stones get you in entertainment?

              It's just another form of paying for your entertainment. Some might buy a fishing rod and some bait and fish. Or a bicycle or a ball for sports. Maybe go out to the movies, there s lots of things to use money on that keeps you busy. This is just another one of them.

                  shelwyn And now let's compare the release rate upgrade:
                  patreon: 0$, max release rate for everyone. There you pay for advanced chapters, but not more chapters per week
                  premium: ~12sschaptersPerWeek for max release rate
                  sarcasm onWow, I got max release rate for free before this system kicked in? It is so much cheaper now that I have to pay for this max release rate, which I got for free previouslysarcasm off*
                  Again, I am not saying that I want everything for free, but comparing patreon with this premium system and praising QI is like comparing apples and oranges...

                      PurpleMagicCube
                      Witch expire 1 month later
                      If you continue like that, later, every days you will win 30 free ss and lose 30 ss who expire

                          Yakumo And now let's compare the release rate upgrade:
                          patreon: 0$, max release rate for everyone. There you pay for advanced chapters, but not more chapters per week
                          premium: ~12ss*chaptersPerWeek for max release rate
                          *sarcasm on*Wow, I got max release rate for free before this system kicked in? It is so much cheaper now that I have to pay for this max release rate, which I got for free previously*sarcasm off*
                          Again, I am not saying that I want everything for free, but comparing patreon with this premium system and praising QI is like comparing apples and oranges...

                          Forgot to escape the *

                              Yakumo Sounds like your complaining about not having paid any money on patreon, donation or otherwise before and getting it all free. Now that the fastest release rates are not free your just here to complain. Lol.

                                  Cless Aren't you going to use the SS? It would be dumb to complain that you can't open premium chapters because they are locked when you have the Spirit stones. SS are not decorations, they have a use. "can't teach s_____d."

                                      shelwyn nope, if you'd have read my earlier posts, you'd think otherwise. My recent posts where only there to prove that you cannot compare patreon and premium system, so every post stating that this is better than patreon, is baseless, since they are 2 totally different services with different offers/benefits.
                                      But hey, your post just fits with nearly every other pro premium post here, with their lack of facts and resorting to bashing of free readers or ppl with (based) opinions.

                                        Heva
                                        okay, now just go to amazon and search random paperback novel, it would cost around 10$ each.
                                        and that is a whole book with proper english.
                                        heck, even japanese novel with hardcover and great quality paper and ilustration are around 13$, on kindle even less. try search danmachi, overlord, death march, youjo senki, etc, paperback it's all around 13$ or less.

                                          shelwyn
                                          do you know that patreon cost more because it is not intended for everyone.
                                          patreon allows the content creator to get money from content they made, basically you 'hire' them directly to keep making content as a support, and as a gratitude they give you some exclusive content according to your contribution.
                                          while now they are on qidian, they already got paid by qidian, and qidian sells the product to us, and they only got miniscule of what you paid in SS as an extra bonus.
                                          And now everyone that wants to read premium chapter are required to pay inflated prices.

                                            PurpleMagicCube
                                            At first?
                                            I only wanted to stock them because sometimes I don't have the time to read.
                                            Someday I got more time so I do my own mass release:
                                            10 lohp chapter unlocked for example so I can read quietly.
                                            For now it's ok I have some ss but later my stock going to hit 0.
                                            Witch mean gain 30 free ss and 30 ss who expire.
                                            So everyday I can only 3~4 chapter "premium" and if I don't read it's wasted because I can't stock ss anymore.
                                            Fun fact: qidian give free ss but take them back 1 month later so it's more a rent ss than free ss

                                                Cless 30 free SS a day in 30 days is 900 SS that you can use to unlock chapters. Use it before it expires. What are you complaining about hitting zero balance on SS when you are getting it for free and you even have a chance to read locked chapters?
                                                It is totally different from renting. When you rent an apartment or a car, you have to pay a fee.

                                                    PurpleMagicCube
                                                    Yeah my bad, more like a lending than rent... ( not my language maternal)
                                                    Got some ss but no chapter to unlock ( already think about that and already unlocked all novel I read).
                                                    Did I need to unlock other chapter I don't read so I can't waste them?
                                                    And 30 ss expire everyday.
                                                    So the fact didn't change: 1 day or another, I going to hit 0 ss and only read 3~4 premium chap every day or I waste them.
                                                    Unless I brought ss but it's too expensive for my thirst.
                                                    I'm ok to paid for the work done, something like Netflix:10 15$ per month.
                                                    But their system is too expensive for me.

                                                        Cless lol you are talking with Qidians secondary account, what did you expect xD One thing I found with this Qidian is that China apparently has too different culture from the western world. Things that for us look totally shameless or even stupid for them they sound genius ideas. Or so I guess from what I can see.

                                                            Unpale :D yeah I checked their profile they only talked in the post which is about QIDIAN or premium system

                                                                The premium system is something that is needs to be revised. The system would be alright if they changed the prices. The prices and not nearly worth the stone amounts they represent. If you read Library of heavens path its 12 stones a chapter, triple normal. If they want this to work they need to make stones cheaper or something. That being said as someone who doesn't lack money I bought a ton of stones to support the authors and translators.

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