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Beta MC? It makes me think of a game tester who has to hunt down all the game dev easter eggs and crack the game to write an IGN walkthrough.

Tomoyuki
I meant sometimes in the manga the girl doesn’t need help, but the MC would go in and make the situation worse.

I barely go out and when I went to school, I went to school in an extremely bad area so helping someone would end up in death.

But if someone is in trouble, serious trouble, it is good to help.
Still I barely go outside. So, I can’t say anything about helping from my own experience.

Thanks for explaining what a beta MC and Simp is.

Veronica8
Lol. I can see that.

RJMidnight Yeah, but the protagonist is not supposed to know that. We, as the audience, knows the girl doesn't need help. We know the poor guy will make things worse. But the protagonist doesn't. If I'm in his position, I wouldn't know either. I'll just act according to the situation, I wouldn't know if the girl has some sort of superpowers (who even assumes that in reality, anyway?) or already has some trick up her sleeve. Besides. it's a convenient boy meets girl scenario.

It's all right if you think you do not have the ability to help and stay out of things. I do that too, sometimes. That's why I find the people who do not hesitate to help courageous and admirable. I am not going to condemn people for being cowards just because they don't help others, but I just find it ridiculous that there will always be a group of people who condemn others for selflessly helping others. It makes no sense to me. If you don't want to help, that's fine, but why insult and condemn those who do offer their help? Why label them a beta or loser or sucker, for example? Are they insecure or something? Perhaps they feel guilty that they didn't help, and so to justify their lack of action, they decide to demonize the people who took action? I don't know.

Nah, it's just that a lot of readers throw around these terms without understanding what they really are. I've seen readers complain about the main character being a simp all because he was nice to a girl or helped her when she was in trouble. As if it's something to deride. Or they call a protagonist a beta male because he refuses to sleep with the heroines throwing themselves at him. As if being responsible is the same as passive and indecisive. They are among the most misused terms, especially on the Internet.

Tomoyuki
True true. (I tend to drop them when romance start to hit cause I don’t do romance).

In real life, my main problem is with people who record a bad situation and don’t help.
I’m not a selfless person, but if someone really needs help, I will try to help them. But at the same time I stay home because I’m tired of the world.

And oh okay. See that is the reason I’m off the internet most of the time, unless I’m reading. I just got back on because I wanted to post up my story, which led me to being active on webnovel, discord, and the forums. But sometimes it makes me want to shut off the internet cause a few people can be toxic.

I don’t like toxic nor arguments (had enough of that). That is why I barely have friends and keep to myself.

RJMidnight I don't blame you. I wish I have more courage and could be a hero, but quite frankly, I am not. So I am in no position to condemn other people for being cowards because that would be hypocritical. I don't expect people to be selfless and noble. But I think the world shouldn't be something to be tired of. You just haven't met the right friends, I think.

Also, one good friend is worth a hundred acquaintances, so it's quality over quantity.

Tomoyuki
Same. Sometimes society makes it hard to weave out the positive.

And that is true. That is why my cousin and certain family members are enough for me. I had true best friends, but they went off to college and living their life so we barely talk.

RJMidnight I hope you reestablish connections with your best friends. They are always people that should be treasured.

Tomoyuki
Thank you.

kazesenken ive read works where it spans for hundreds of chaps and the mc is still beta. Which means it wasnt about development