HotRedFlaming

According to some, it is the worst mc...

Alphas are the ones that lead the pack and the only ones that breed, Omegas are the ones that are at the bottom of the hierarchy completely, and betas are the ones in between. A protagonist will be called omega when he's pushed around more than usual.

    Avidfan Ah, ok. This makes more sense.
    It'll help me forget about the ABO from erotic novels and the likes.

    CacackleLasson Personally, I hate harems.

    I'm referring to the types where the ML has a whole load of women that he sleeps with, and be with. Like, he can't keep it in his pants. The women are normally portrayed as beautiful women with a variety of personalities, mostly spoilt, stupid, wilful, etc with a handful of strong women who aren't in their right minds for sharing a man ... imo.

    I don't mind if the guy has a whole truckload of women lusting after him, but he only responds to one, is faithful to one, and remains with one. The same one, mind you. I don't even know why some would regard this as a harem.

    A harem is basically where the women are all who the guy sleeps with and keeps by his side. They share one man.

    It just doesn't vibe with me because I like the fantasy that a man can love and be faithful to one woman, no matter how many fling themselves at him.

      I don't mind harem as long as the guy sticks to only one girl and very vocal about his relationship with her. Meaning he wouldn't hesitate to say to anyone that 'hey, this is my gf or she's the girl I like. Etc. Etc.'. I don't like it when guys are being very vague and stringing along the other girls who like him. Which is mostly the case in anime/manga/light novel harems. That's why I don't watch/read those types. It always irritates the heck out of me. 😅

      CacackleLasson Those feeling emerge from the cliche turn of events. Stupidity of the leads and how they only think about themselves. The only think about their issues but they forget the other characters and use them as disposables.

        Personally, I don't like harem (be it harem or reverse harem) I prefer the one where the protagonist loyal to the love interest, so it's just one person. (Male and female)
        However, I do have read novel that the MC has harem and fine with it since it's not the main focus of the story. The example will be "Wu Dong Qian Kun" and "Warlock of the Magus World"
        Both have harem tag, but the story didn't revolve on that point and only ever touched the harem topic after several hundreds, nearly 1000 chapters. (Well, I did skip the chapters when it's about their relationships with their women, though. Since it's not many, I'm not that bothered as the story is good in overall and I read the story mainly because of the plot)
        Well, this is just my opinion and personal taste
        Peace ✌️

        PsyberRose Wait a minute. I know Im not a master who know or understand about harem or even about alpha beta omega delta gamma sigma epsilon etc. But the way this one describe about harem ; MC has lots of women chasing after him, but the MC only have one wife/girlfriend/one woman only that the MC choose and being loyal too, and the other women still try to get together with the MC (lots of pelakor?) even saying they dont mind sharing the MC with other women, but the MC still with his decision with only one girl and the decline the others softly/politely, and then the readers also really like the other girls and also really wants them to be with the MC, but since the MC did not, they would call him a Beta MC?
        Because an Alpha male, usually on a pack (wolf pack? Or any other pack?), have to take care (breed? Mating?) with lots of female under them? So if MC choose only one, he is not Alpha, but Beta? And since lots of female are already introduced, its Harem?
        Hmmm.... this is reminding me of some old harem manga; "I'S" and "Ichigo 100%" and "Love Hina" and some other too.
        Also reminds me of some webnovel ; "Release that Witch" and "The Novel Extra" where I also really-really-really wants them to be harem, but they are not harem. And they have lots of lovable different kinds of female characters there.
        Why? Why! WHYYYYYYY!!!!!! 😭
        NAZEDAAAAA.....

          But when I talked to many of my females' friends, their opinion is that woman/man is disgusting . "not only want him/her but the other too".Bite off More Than You Can Chew.I Just basically share their thought.
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          When the harem means a lot of girls chasing a man (or a lot of men chasing a woman), it sounds like a kind of author's power trip.
          Specifically, about a man getting a harem, It's like he's showing off how super cool his MC is by making him a women's magnet. Honestly, it always seems like when a guy does something right, he has the right of being awarded sex and devoted waifus.
          Well, sometimes a harem can happen because a guy got a device that allows him to become this women's magnet... Like, what if in real life a man didn't need to be nice and minimally decent to get sex? Just... get a device/spell/goddess' blessing?
          Considering the number of fiction in this regard, it seems like a pretty common fantasy.
          About woman with a reverse harem, it's the same thing, she's so special all men around are chasing/doting on her. Like... They don't need to go to any lengths to become prettier or interesting or do anything special, just breathe...
          Power trips.

          I think you guys have mostly summarized this topic pretty well. Harem is ultimately just a type of wish-fulfilment fantasy.
          Now there are two types, harems and pseudo-harems.
          When the author introduces girls but mc only chooses one, or when the mc doesn't choose at all and just conveniently ignores the fact that having a relationship is a thing, that is a pseudo-harem.

          Most of these are bad bcause, the author introduces all these girl characters just to get them rejected. THis is mostly to conduct waifu wars, and lead to fans blaming the Mc for being a beta and not satisfying all the girls.

          In my opinion, the fact that he didn't choose all means that he is an alpha, cause like just because all of them love you is not an excuse for you to betray yourself and just give in and please em' all.

          Then there are harems, where the mc actively has a relationship with multiple girls. The thing here is, such a thing is not health but really toxic. Just like men, women are possesive to, so sharing means that they have underlying motives like being protected by your power, or something like that.

          I mean all emperor's royal families are a fucking mess where half-brothers kill each other, Like come-on man isn't it obvious what the problem with harems is by now!!!

          Those where the females do accept and are genuine often come off as sub-par characters and one-dimensional.

          Like Honestly I don't get to understand why strong characters will agree to this stuff.

          The only harem that has actually worked is I think, A will Eternal by Er Gen. The reason being, you don;t really care much about the female characters. Even if they are one dimensional and have very little screen time, they aren't the focus of the story. So it's fine.

            so here is the definition:
            Harem is a kind of story in Japanese anime and manga where a male character is surrounded and loved by many female characters. ... The term orginates from the Arabic word "hareem" which literally means women and was also used to refer to one man many women like a sultan hareem.

            That is the original harem all about.

            But later on this genre developes.
            Many of what so called harem stories often about females in the palace who fight and scheme to get the emperor's' love and attention and the power. And this theme becomes very popular and huge especially after the success of the story Zhen Huan Zhuan (Empresses in the Palace)

            Now as a female, I personally think that harem genre is offrensive. It is degrading females. As if they have no value that they have to fight all over for a man.

            Zhen Huan Zhuan is a great story. But one story like that is enough. It is too much for me o see and read females are scheming, fighting and even killing to get the love and power.

            That is my two cents.

            so here is the definition:
            Harem is a kind of story in Japanese anime and manga where a male character is surrounded and loved by many female characters. ... The term orginates from the Arabic word "hareem" which literally means women and was also used to refer to one man many women like a sultan hareem.

            That is the original harem all about.

            But later on this genre developes.
            Many of what so called harem stories often about females in the palace who fight and scheme to get the emperor's' love and attention and the power. And this theme becomes very popular and huge especially after the success of the story Zhen Huan Zhuan (Empresses in the Palace)

            Now as a female, I personally think that harem genre is offrensive. It is degrading females. As if they have no value that they have to fight all over for a man.

            Zhen Huan Zhuan is a great story. But one story like that is enough. It is too much for me o see and read females are scheming, fighting and even killing to get the love and power.

            That is my two cents.

            GegeSadewa That's just it. I don't get it why one would regard harem simply because lots of women want the MC. If he ends up with one, chooses only one - it's strictly speaking, not a harem.

            But I guess it's tagged as such when you consider anime/manga.

            In wuxia novels though, it follows the Chinese style type of harem ie the MC has lots of women after him and he ends up with lots of women (if not all).

            As for the Alpha Beta Omega thing. Rugh, just don't think logically and follow the flow of what has been determined in werewolves novels to be the way it is.

              I have always find an obvious difference between harem and reverse harem. In harem the MC is collecting girls and in reverse harem the boys are fighting for the girl and it just gets boring.

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