Lonelytree No, ot's not a win win, not atall, giving us a bunch of barely readable trash and expecting people to pay for it? It's a mystery why people willing to pay is dropping off.
I could accept MTL for trial reads, and then assigning a real translator, but this is bullshit and most of us won't be willing to pay to read badly edited machine translations that completely gut the essence of a novel, aswell as being full of mistakes.
Mute Hey, you asked why some of the TR are MTL-ed and the answer is cost efficiency. Whether that will continue after the book gets out of TR, who knows?
Lonelytree I'm sure people know, they just won't tell us.
But honestly, if webnovel can't afford to translate new novels, then they don't need to bring a new one out each week.
Mute But they can afford to... with Mtl.
Lonelytree To be honest I would expect translators to be one of the fiercest group protesting MTL.
Quidian makes unpopular decisions and to be honest mostly ignore issues brought up on this forum, so they lose paying readers. But I can't see how lowering quality of the product they offer would help. They at most lose more paying customers who will feel conned. It is slippery slope.
I am not really sure how big percentage of reading community is willing to accept MTL (I for one prefer to drop novel instead of looking for MTL), but I think that a lot of them do that because it's free.
Cynical_Taste Didn't you notice the novels getting dropped like flies? Hence the protest lol. What else can we do exactly?
Lonelytree Yeah, MTL is garbage though, there's no need for a new novel each week, what they can do is stop picking up novels with like 2k chapters though, they rarely hold peoples interest.
Mute bro, could you tell me how you seem to be finding translated new novels (mtl or otherwise) ? i found a bunch last week on the phone half of which became last week's trial read, and the other half seems to have completely vanished even though they're still in my phone accounts library. and i actually wanted to read the raws of those. which reminds me it's impossible to find the raws of some novels, despite being given the raw name
Immortal Hero: I Can Replicate Talents- for example can be found but the main character name is ye tian instead of su chen
Immortal Hero: I Can See the Success Rate- literally does not exist in any shape way or form... even the official link is dead.
anyway i seem to never be able to find new novels, because after 4 years we still have not been given a sort by release date.... or i am blind
P.S you can't DM on this forum?
PlantSmoker Bro same! I wanted to read some of the raws for a few pilot read novels that never got chosen, but they disappeared! Like wtf why would you delete the novel. Fucking bastards. Also what Chinese website did you use to read the 'I can replicate talents' novel, when I read the raws he didn't have a different name.
SexyYoungMaster https://m.xindingdianxsw.net/xiaoshuo/712712.html
this was what i found when i tried
Mute hey there are many high quality original books out there. I remember at that time for about 2-4 years i only read originals because all the translated books started to get paywalls.
Mute or you could try royal road
Lonelytree there's almost nothing we can do.
Think of it like this, readers feels that webnovel is slowly making the paywall higher and higher while at the same time reducing the quality of the translations.
The translators on the other hand may also have problems from the site that cause them to even consider using half baked translation or a little editing from a mtl result.
Now comes the question, who to fault for, is it the readers, translators, or the site?? Next, how to fix this issues?
I'll just come clean and say that imo its the sites fault. To change all this situation we need to start with the roots of the ecosystem that is the site. Both the readers and the translators truly have limited capabillities to really change anything. As long as the roots is wrong, nothing will really change.
Realistically for the site to continue running up till now means that it still gains lots and lots of income right? So why did they still increase the paywalls and do seemingly unwise move in the eyes of the many? The answer is more profit, to gain high and cost low. Causing readers to consider reading at illegal sites and translators to start producimg half baked content.
Imo the current site is EXTREMLY unfriendly to new users(and even many old users), making users to prioritize using this site to search new books to google it and read it on other sites. This all comes down from the very high paywall with a very limited "official" way to bypass it for new/free readers, many trial reads/new books with half baked translations, and many more reasons.
Now for new readers to stay and be real readers(or even pay readers), they need to first be comfortable with the site. This needs readers to repeatedly or long term use of the site (which is not working when all the translated books have high pay walls and half baked mtl translation,causing the to read on other sites). The solution to this is actually easy by
making a few finished old popular books from both male and female lead to be fully free and automatically save them to the new users library according to the male preference and gender.
Reduce the harsh paywall by increasing the free chapter to about 1/4 of the translated chapter with a minimum of 60 chp free
Increase the amount of ways to allow free readers getting free pass or even gold coins. Example a 2-3 gold coins will be given from the gift after reading 15 minutes/day for 7 consecutive day(After all, gold coins is in a way harder to use and get than free pass and yet they will never expire unlike free pass.). Invite a friend could also give a cold coins for every 5 users invites and a free pass for every 1 user.
And many more ways i can't think of (p.s. honestly exp is only worth it for long term/old users, so make any mission or things that gives reward to give exp as a reward in addition to the main reward and not make exp as the main reward)
Remembers the days where even if many chapter were locked, we could patiently wait for each chapter gets unlocked after every update and we could do missions to get spirit stones? Ahh those olden(yet golden) days.
I remember the time when a reader can watch ads to unlock a chapter.
String11ni yeah there is also that
ExodusGaming555 Now that it suddenly hit me that its already been a few years since i started reading at this site. Now i feel old.
String11ni Macaulay Culkin is 40. If you don't know him - don't worry, you are still young
