Well.. I am An Avid Reader of Webnovels...completed more than 20 webnovels in last 4 years and Reading Many of Incomplete Ones.
While I was Reading Webnovels..I found out that Recently It has become a Trend for Web Novelists..like they feel it is a guarenteed Formula that If you PRAISE CHINA,write CHINA IS BEST, IT IS CENTRE OF EARTH,CHINESE FAMILIES SPAN ALL AROUND MULTIVERSE AND WHAT ELSE!..Your Novel will make A Hole In Sky..
It is a recent Trend which is very harmful for Creativity..
I have Read Old Novels Like ISSTH,DE,ST and All..But I never Found Too Much Patriotiveness as I am seeing in Recent Webnovels. If Government is Oppressing Writers to Spread their Propoganda..they should speak about it and If it is Not So then they Should Stop Mixing This Real Life Bullshit in the Pure Imaginary World.
"THERE IS ALWAYS MOUNTAIN BEHIND A MOUNTAIN AND A MAN BEHIND A MAN"..It is good New Authors are Coming Up with Originals. I hope they Do not Succumb to this Rubbish Idea of Progressing Novel Through Nationalist Propaganda. There Are Oversea Readers too...Remember That! For No One would Like to See their Side always beaten..or Their Side Ignored!
Pure Knowledge and Imagination Is Always Impartial..This Fact should Be Kept in Mind while The Novels are Being Written.
Too Much "HOMESICKNESS!" In WebNovels
DaoMasterTianLong maybe because in novels like Issth and De, the world background isn't Earth or China.
Interesting
DaoMasterTianLong Only read Eastern fantasy, never read a novel based on modern society(or based on our world at any time) by any Chinese author, they are all generally racist and nationalist to a huge extent.
And there are only a few novels pr writers who I consider to not have any political agenda behind their novels for example is our OVERGOD "Plagirist"..... ErGen..... and GetLost.
UnhingedTaboo But I think any non Nationalistic Novel there has a risk of getting banned though by the government. I think it has happened to one translated novel already, so it is not longer released in China.
Luckily the author still continues to write it eventhough he isn't getting traffic from China, since the translations still are marketable.
I forgot the exact title of the novel but this happened this year only.
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Modern fantasy got such a potential...it is killed by racism...Except for Europe,96% of time I never found Modern Fantasy Writers writing any good about other Countries.. INDIANS.. Well not there or Villain.. RUSSIANS.. NEVER HEARD
AFRICANS.. Side Kick maybe or Never Heard
LATIN AMERICANS.. They are aliens for Webnovel Writers
JAPANESE.. eternal enemies
WOW! AND REALLY.. GOVERNMENT BANNED A NOVEL..?
The big issue which comes at another time is they Kill the WORLD BUILDING.. How the Hell can a 10000 year old sea near any "Dragon Continent" can be called South China Sea? It is like If there is any sea named with resources Call it East China Sea or South China Sea... LOL.. AND THAT IS HOW IT ALSO KILLS XIANXIA
The racism in china transcends the boundary of xianxia. Just read otherworldly evil monarch-you have a bakayaro monster. And a mc who previously wished to remain neutral suddenly gets angry and power to wanna destroy all those 'invaders'
I saw that! YEPS! Though Author says he was forced to Do So! He makes it Like this! Yeah! But I get the Feel!
Limitless Can Be Added Into That Category, So Can Be THE SACRED RUINS!
O yeah i never noticed this ,but now as u saying i think i hv sm issues 2 b suspected as u say right, moreover i will notice more in future reading.
hmm
Original Authors are also starting to Copying this trend... Chinese Names, Chinese Words.........
NewCultivator What does that have to do with racism?
Kulha Not racism, its called a political agenda or foolishness by some authors (I may get some hate for this but). I dream't of Originals showcasing the culture and diversity of others readers through their engaging story-lines or bullshit(in a good sense). But what I see is just same copy paste names and mythos recycled in their own world. There is nothing unique and in a sense degrading to us and themselves. Only the the chinese cultural exist in their world with other being non-existent..... And I will also claim when a new culture is introduced, they will surely be backwards idiots or some kind of villain or oppressor.
UnhingedTaboo Don't really know about others since I don't have time to read, but in my Xianxia novel the MC is from the US and wants to change the culture he got reborn into. People can take the standard template like that and do their own twist on it. Using the names and words doesn't mean anything, they're just words.
Kulha I am not just talking about names though, what I am talking about is culture here. What I want is culture.
Would you not love to read a viking or nord in the battle between Greek gods(Yeah!! take that Kratos). Or would you not love to see some Lovecraftian Gods fighting against immortals??
Or a VRMMORPG in which the MC comes from Uganda and trolls other troll-players with his "Do you Kno Da Wae" meme(His class being MemeBreaker) or any other meme he can unlock.
Or how about a tomboy woman thrown in Zombie apocalypse? fighting for survival??
Or just a Cliche Australian old man being a bounty hunter in a futuristic cowboy world.??
I need their personalities and antics in a novel.
You can call them Yun che for all that matter!!
UnhingedTaboo You write for the audience you have, not the one you'd like to have.
Kulha Nah!! I guess our feelings in this point differ. I write for myself and feel happy to see others liking my work having the same taste in novels.
Hi, as a Chinese webnovel reader for 5 years, I'd like to explain it a little bit.
First, the nationalism and racism in webnovel hit its summit between 2000-2008. China was kind of weak then(the economy is worse than Japan and the US bomb our embassy). So the trend was "slaughtering Japan and annihilate the US" because people need to find some compensation in the fantasy world which they cannot get in real life. This trend quickly change after 2008. The newly translated novel on International QI is not necessary newly written novel. If you read a novel started before 2010-ish, it's likely to find some nationalism in the novel.
Second, the income of writer is directly from readers. Most of writers would not risk their bread to say something bad about China. If the reader don't like it, the number of your monthly ticket(monthly powerstone) and recommend ticket would drop dramatically and your income drop to ground. It's more a economic issue than a political issue. So even in new novels, it's hard to see author criticize China.
YEP YEP YEP!! ABSOLUTELY. r these authors sick or something. cant they think that they r killing their audience by showing THIS much patriotism. i sometime kind of feel like im living in a different world where chinese is the almighty and all other people r stupid pigs waiting to be slaughtered. man.... i've dropped too many novels for this. sigh.... hope they change it a little bit. this is kind of sick. [on the side note, every time i see this kind of bloody patriotism, i feel like slaughtering a bunch of them and showing them what true TERROR is, just kidding. dont ban me from webnovel tho]
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Well, considering their actual audience is China, I suppose it is natural for them to show nationalism. Besides the trend has decreased drastically nowadays(2011~)(not talking translation but date at which novel was written)
I drop highly nationalistic novels or novels which openly target a certain nation(for eg: I dropped Shura wrath, God and devil world, hacker etc etc).
UnhingedTaboo Dayuum sir If you ever start any novel with this Idea Let me know I sure as hell would wanna read that :O
Immortal_Simo he has written a novel- "great exotic food critique"
DaoMasterTianLong It is the translator being lazy. The Chinese term for East China Sea can also mean Eastern Sea which is part of Chinese mythology. Some dumb translators like those of Martial God Space are idiots who don't know such basic thing.
To be fair they can't say anything, their internet is heavily monitored and if their caught bye?
On a off note the chineese propaganda is hilarious. Watch somwthing covering ww2 when japan invaded. You'll basically be watching martial arts experts with bows and swords slaughtering hundreds of modern japeneese soldiers. If you need a laugh anyways.
I just seriously feel..that this patriotism wave is gonna kill all the good repo which we readers ever had of china.. It is just like "Its ok When U cut fish for soup..but its Blunder when u Mincemeat it and mix it with broth"..that is what happening, I hope this issue seriously gets discussed in academic world..China Has really got aggressive these days..I am not one who Can literally comment what they should do..it is the people their..but As A common Reader I hope our voice reaches the author and they Kill this Suicidal trend.
bachingchung Authors somehow manages to overcome that problem, in Otherworldly Evil Monarch, the author made an enemy race who are UGLY and DISGUSTING, they use Katanas and words like "Baka".
XD..BUT THE READERS ARE NOT FOOLISH AIN'T THEY? We still got it, RIGHT? If Authors Playing Politics..I hope its Time to Change the Government
True_Seeker Most translators & editors here on Webnovel don't know what consistency & quality are. They keep on changing terms every few chapters & fail to edit even basic spelling mistakes.
I have encountered this nationalistic and racism trend several times already. I stomach it for some time, until I can't anymore.
Take "I'm Really a Superstar" for example. It was so super ultra nationalistic that I eventually dropped it, and it's still one of the more popular novels here in quidian international. I'm not Japanese or Korean, but when the mc starts to trash talk these countries I feel badddddd, and I'm not even the target of those insults ...
MMORPG : Rebith of Legendary Guardian
In here the MC also bullying gamer from Japan and Korea
SweetsTomato Even I would bully those Korean gamers......*sigh. If I have greater skill than them...... They own the competitive market!!
Well it is like All Chinese MC are born to be conquerors and oracles...and they will tend to settling all grudges which will occur in future..like..This guy is a foreigner..he will cause trouble..let me face slap or kill him..problem solved.
This guy...he is a foreigner..hence he is a spy...hence will hurt people..kill. I was recently reading SPARE ME,GREAT LORD...IT IS VERY SAD TO SAY..IT GOT INCLUDED IN THE SHITTY HERD. There is AN ARC of RUIN EXPLORATION..where the cultivators of SACRED LAND OF CHINA AND ALL OVER THE WORLD "TRAMPLE OVER" cultivators of some place called "LAOS"..anyone knows where? And then Next Time when their turn comes, yes SACRED LAND OF CHINA'S...Russia SENDS A BIG 'B' GRADE.JAPAN SENDS ONE 'B' GRADE AND FROM WEST SOME COUNTRY ALSO SENDS ONE...BUT ONLY INDIA WAS FOOLISH ENOUGH TO SEND 12 'C' GRADE BECAUSE THERE WAS NO 'B' GRADE(WHAT THE FUCK ..121 MILLION PEOPLE AND NO 'B' GRADE?)..AND THE CULTIVATORS OF SACRED LAND OF CHINA KILL 10 OUT OF 12 'KILLING CHICKEN TO WARN MONKEYS' AND SURELY ROUTING THEIR NEAREST ENEMY...WOW! THE MC IS SAID TO BE NOT CARING ABOUT SUCH SHIT BUT HE KILLS EVERY 'SPY' WHICH COMES IN HIS WAY.
JunkieOverThe_Moon True! Art is A Bird...will become Phoenix in Free Skies..will remain a Chicken in the cage...eating worms..and maybe degrade further than that
Hoho2000 Its oki..if someone wants to not criticize their country through i feel the calculative and cold methods described are criticism itself..but, webnovels should remain a source of motivation, enjoyment and understanding. If it goes something more than like..half-axs propaganda it does not remain webnovel...it is like Politically/Corporate funded buxlshxt published to creep out normal readers..only fanatics will remain readers os such novels
DaoMasterTianLong Actually it was the normal readers who support this kind of nationalistic web novels before 2008. The writer just wrote what they want. There is only one rule in web novel community: the writer is paid to satisfy the readers. If the readers are tired of these things, the writer would not write that (like what is happening now, the pure nationalism is not welcome anymore).
DaoMasterTianLong Hell is this true??...Now I am scared, I don't want to be called spy and then be fucked over by some pathetic author who still sucks on his pigs tttes. (P.S. I am a D rank Indian..... I am pathetic too)
Hoho2000 It's not present anymore??........ Well the novel "Am I God" will prove you wrong. And even another novel from the same writer "Paradise of Demonic Gods" have some dark skinned people who consummate with animals and savagely kill people. And guess the earliest novel in between them??.. 2016
Nehaust I guess, well the rape of Nanking is really tragic and the Japanese weren't all nice to begin with.
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bachingchung
Dude, it's true that the Japs did some pretty horrible things to the chinese, but that's the past. This is the present.
And being a hardcore anime fan, how can i take such blatant insult to the japs , lightly.
In fact, chinese r pretty hypocritical. They speak Ill of japs but even still they watch anime in millions. ( Im not a Jap, tho )
If they hate japs to the core why not just ban all Jap good in their country. Why take the twisted paths. And forever, web novels r a literature. The politicians may write book to spread their fame, but not authors. If they r so bloody patriotic, they shouldn't publishing them in the international market!!!!
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Maybe I was a little too hot headed. Web novel, plz don't ban me
JunkieOverThe_Moon it's easy to say that if your ancestors weren't cut open from their genitals to their intestines after being raped. But I guess since you're a hardcore anime fan that absolved them of their past atrocities.