There is nothing better than tales of the herding gods

    This is not truly evil, but perhaps you'll like it?
    Awaken Online 1, Catharsis

      bachingchung At least it's a permanent solution, I guess? I am simply annoyed by stupid antagonists with more plot-armor than even the the MC.

      Too many MCs: "Oh, I could kill that enemy who swore eternal revenge towards me, but it's slighty inconvenient to kill that ticking timebomb, which surely once again get a power-up and a family member/friend to attack me."

        Quiescent_Rumble the upper echelons will be able to harm the MC. But the rest of the clan mostly were just to make up the numbers and scrubs.

          Karyehs I'm aware of that, but that doesn't mean it's not evil. There are few members of every villain's clan that actually could hrm the MC.

            bachingchung Well, since all those "scrubs" are the "foundation" of the clan, they do have their use and danger. They are basically a huge information network, always working against the MC and swearing revenge for every Elder, Patriarch, Youg Patriarch, whatever,... gets killed.

            Destroying the whole foundation makes a well connected patriarch of a huge sect to a lone rouge cultivator who sweared revenge. Also they are directly and indirectly providing cultivation resources for the upper echelon, which makes them stronger.

            And there is no real "evil" in those novels, simply because everybody (except female leads, MCs masters and the MC himself) is only "nice" as long they are weak/no chance to survive being "evil"... Oh, and rapists ofcourse... You can be an evil cultivator, consuming souls of slaughtered enemies and innocents, torturing them to death for research on the soul.... But if you ever rape a single woman, you're evil! (except you are an antagonist young master, then your whole clan/sect stands behind you)

              Dreadful radio game has a evil Mc who wants to be good but really to survive he must be worst than those around him

                Karyehs once the upper echelons are gone. Those scrubs would be scared shitless to do anything.

                  bachingchung If we consider that the MC is often a 14-30 year old young person who had the luck to find a cheat/super resource and became strong, it is quite possible for a sect of hundreds or even thousands to have a single person get lucky, too.... Or a team of them.... Or one of their heaven toppling, city destroying beauties catches an OP husband, who wants to unknot her "heart demon" by killing the MC. etcetc...

                  Maybe they will be scared, or maybe some super talent hides between the scrubs. We - as the readers - know that the MC will win at the end, but in the world itself only a dead enemy without loose ends is a good enemy(also he should drop all his treasures if possible).

                  There are no innocent bystanders in sects. The upper echelon uses and exploits, but also educates, protects and represents the other parts of the sect.

                  It's not even real genocide, if simply the whole sect gets killed. Genocide would imply you kill the whole race.

                    bachingchung Ok, I forgot that this is a book. Shame on me. So the author could make the protagonist not too brutal but his actions lead to either disbanding of the sects with evil members or they change their ways. I think this is not realistic (not "magic vs realistic", but "human behavior realistic"), but it would be at least a nice variant to the slaughter of all or the ignoring of potential problems.

                    So, ok, I like it as one of the alternative behaviors of the protagonist, if we are shown the implications for the sects.

                      bachingchung As I have said before: For us it is a novel where the MC will most likely will come out on top, sometimes after a struggle and very close, sometimes he simply owns them. But in the novel-world itself, the MC is simply one person with huge potential due to his cheats, techniques, his "will" or whatever.... Just one person in a huge world with the most unknown, most likely many power-realms away from the top for most of the time.

                      And whenever he will become OP, the author will either nerf him, injure him, seal some of his power and/or make his new environment way stronger than before. It's most of the time an uphill battle. Even small scrubs are stones in your way, which will bring the large stones towards you, if left unchecked.

                      Information networks are extremely powerful. Simply by crippling the information network you do huge damage to the whole sect and their "war potential".... And you basically haven't made a single counter-argument for ANY of my points in the last few posts. All you do is "no, don't worry about scrubs" "mc gets 1 out of 1 chance, scrubs will always be scrubs" "no worry, no worry".

                        Quiescent_Rumble Hmm, while getting a sect to disband itself, it seems like a very dangerous move. In these cultivation novels, most people need a sect/clan behind them... So the member will most likely join different sects somewhere down the road... If they are talented enough...

                        So instead of having one big sect as your enemy, you'll have small enemies split over many sects all over the continent/realm/planet/whatever, which could make diplomacy/trades/cooperations with them hard... If one of them gets enough influence in this kind of sect, they may simply start hunting the MC again.

                        Imo the MC-halo shouldn't be used to make bad-world-logic decisions.

                          ZeroCultivation It would have been fine if most of the protagonist problems weren’t forced as fuck.. Like the time when he brought that greedy retard to the inheritance cave and what a fucking coincidence! the recording that the evil gu master left suddenly switched and starting talking about the inheritance.. And this is pretty much how all the trouble the mc faces show up, just random retarded coincidences.. There not a single point in thta story that is realistic and it’s basically full a forced plot which later gets resolved by plot armor that some masochists seem to enjoy reading..

                            bachingchung Killing evil retards doesn’t make the protagonist evil, this chinese authors go a long way to justify their protagonist’s actions which completely ruins the purpose.. A true evil protagonist would rape someone without feeling a tinge of remorse, slaughter villager A just because he looked at him funny and actually be the one hatching evil plots against others and not being the target of them all the time..

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