ShoeInk

  • Sep 11, 2023
  • Joined Sep 23, 2021
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    Oh wow, it's been a year since I've been to this forum, and what do I find? Exactly the kind of bs bandaid solution that I'd expect from this site. Imagine using a reCaptcha just for posting in a forum. It's hilarious, even, that the bots are so egregiously bad that they had to do that. Makes you wonder if posting is even worth it.

    • A word to the wise: frivolous and abundant descriptions does not a captivating experience make. Why do I say that? The answer: it's really boring.

      Descriptive writing is important, but it's also important to ensure it flows. Going on a paragraph-long analysis of a room, land/cityscape, or glorifying a person's appearance is no different than info-dumping. If you're going to do it, keep it short.

      It's a matter of telling vs showing, a phrase so trite it makes my ears bleed. But it's important.

      • Depends on what tips you're looking for. If you're wanting to know:

        1. Where to start on your first novel,
        2. How to edit, proofread, brush up on writing skills,
        3. How to work with popular and/or niche genres
        4. Tips on manuscripts or synopses,
        5. How the novel-writing system here works,
        6. all of the above,

        Just pick and choose. Can't start from the abstract and work down, that's not how questions or conversations in general work. Be specific, since every single one of these options is rather exhaustive in content and accompanying nuance.

        • In Why?

          Can't really add much, other than most people don't care what others think unless it affects them. Slave and Eternal managed to sum things up pretty well.

          • RadiantFlame Appropriation? No one cares. Certainly not on this site, where yoinking content, making racial assumptions, and out-and-out blatant racism is practically a part of the culture. As for whether it would be awkward or not, that's up to you as a writer.

            What you really need to worry about is how you're going to use them. For the love of god, don't use idioms in prose (unless absolutely necessary, or to make a point). Not only is it cringeworthy, it's bad writing (same as it is with cliches. Idioms and cliches are somewhat related). Dialogue is iffy, but since people use them in everyday language (Chinese or otherwise), it's tolerable.

            • The ones where the plot of the story is handed to the mc on a silver platter. Plot armor without reasoning to back it up, zaney plans and plans to foil the antagonist's plans to somehow show they're smart, even though the sequence of events behind it all is absolutely ludicrous, etc etc.

            • Step 1: Only write what you like. Focus on a topic, genre, or theme that you really like, and stick with it. If a writer doesn't like what they're writing, their readers probably won't either.

              Step 2: Only write as much as you're capable of. Don't push yourself to do a chapter a day, it will burn you out, and make your chapters stale with rushed writing fraught with cliches. Take your time.

              Step 3: Patience. Since novel creation is a relatively long process, so too is the growth of its following. Don't grow complacent with rapid success either, it'll affect your writing, and thus cause a loss of interest.

              That's about all I know. Good luck.

              • Well, what do you think your readers are looking for when they're looking at your very first chapter? They certainly aren't looking for a wall of exposition, and they certainly aren't looking for cliches or hackneyed catchphrases.

                So, now that those are eliminated, what else can we do?

                It all comes down to how you've outlined/thought of your story. What themes does it have? What characters or conflicts are there? What fact about the world, or interesting feature of someone or something can you bring up to intrigue your readers in the very first line?

                If you want to draw your readers in with a character, try explaining how they're so different from other people. What do they think? Why do they think that way? Are they the happy-go-lucky type, or are they a social reject with a desire to spill their vitriol upon the world?

                If it's a place, do the same, only the scope of your sentences should be relatively broad, considering places are far bigger than people!

                Perhaps you simply want to convey an idea that's integral to your story. Well, it's the more philosophical route, but if written well, can get your readers to think.

                This brings us to the point of this post.

                Get your readers to THINK!

                Get them thinking about the purpose behind your words, your sentences, the entire reason for the novel. Lead them on. In a way, an author should be the ultimate sadist, taking pleasure in their readers' every agonized moment, manipulating their emotions to build a world within that anticipation. Not sure if that's a quote, and I may be unintentionally using some philosopher's words, but you get my point.

                • SlaveOfTheLord I'm assuming you know what a tulpa is? Because they aren't necessarily devils, per se. They're actually more interesting than that. Research them if you don't, they're a rather interesting concept.

                  • lowlyone I see, it wasn't something I considered. Thanks for the reference.

                    • it is rather lazy, yes. But I'm not sure how I would really go about doing it, especially in script format. Not that I'm even that well versed with it to begin with.

                      • So, I've recently come into contact with conspiracy theories. Now, before you start calling me a tin-foiler, I'm going to say that I don't hold any stock in them whatsoever. HOWEVER, one interesting conspiracy, or rather I suppose you could call it a Lovecraftian horror or analogue horror concept, that has caught my attention inspired me to write an interesting script about them. A particular scene that I think would happen if they did exist.

                        By the way, I'd like to see what people come up with, so if you've got a horror-based short story or script to post, feel free. This should be fun, even though it's out of season.


                        Mother: "Doctor, she's in here."

                        Doctor: "Right ma'am. Please wait outside, I'll be back momentarily."

                        Door closes

                        Doctor: Sits on edge of bed "Hello, Sophia. How are you doing today?"

                        Doctor: "Your mother asked me to ask you some questions, is that okay?"

                        Doctor: "Erm... just nod or shake your head when you feel like it."

                        Sophia: nods hesitantly

                        Doctor: "I've heard you have a some friends, could you tell me about them?"

                        Sophia: nods

                        Doctor: "What are they like? Do they talk with you a lot?"

                        Sophia: thinks for a bit, then nods

                        Doctor: "I see, you get along well then. Your mother says you like to ride your bicycle ever since
                        you learned how. Do they like to too?"

                        Sophia: shakes

                        Doctor: "That's sad. Is it because they don't have bikes?"

                        Sophia: shakes

                        Doctor: "Is it that they don't like to ride with you?"

                        Sophia: vigorously shakes

                        Doctor: "Then what could it be? Do their parents not want them to?"

                        Sophia: shakes

                        Doctor: "Hmmm... so, how many friends do you have? Are there more than five?"

                        Sophia: Confused shake

                        Doctor: Takes notes on a clipboard "I can see you're confused, and that's fine dear, you don't need to worry, that one was a bit hard to answer."

                        Doctor: "So, do you only have one friend?"

                        Sophia: nods

                        Doctor: "You've been away from school for a week now, do you think they're worried about you?"

                        Sophia: shakes

                        Doctor: "Why? Do they know you're gone from school?"

                        Sophia: nods

                        Doctor: "I see."

                        Sophia: glances at the corner of her bedroom

                        Doctor: "Sophia, I want you to think very carefully when you answer this next question, and be honest with me, okay?"

                        Sophia: hesitant nod

                        Doctor: "Is your friend here right now?"

                        Sophia: nods

                        Doctor: "Is that so? Are they saying anything about me?"

                        Sophia: nods

                        Doctor: "What are they saying? Does your friend like me?"

                        Sophia: thinks a little while staring at the corner of the bedroom

                        Sophia: tilts her head, confused

                        Doctor: "Do they not like me?"

                        Sophia: slow, unsure nod

                        Doctor: "Do they want me to leave?"

                        Sophia: "Terri..."

                        Doctor: more notes taken "Oh, their name is Terri, I see, I see..."

                        Doctor: stands to leave "Okay, that should be enough for today."

                        Sophia: reaches for his sleeve

                        faint shuffling from the corner of the bedroom

                        Doctor: startled by sound "Sophia, dear, now's not the time..."

                        Sophia: shakes

                        Doctor: "Dear, please... let go..."

                        shuffling comes nearer

                        Doctor: "I said let go!"

                        Sophia: "He doesn't want you to go..."

                        Doctor: "He...?"

                        Sophia: "He says you'll never go..."

                        Doctor: "Damn you woman! YOU SAID IT WAS AN IMAGINARY FRIEND!"

                        Sophia: "He says..."

                        shuffling stops

                        Sophia: "You'll stay here, forever."

                        silence

                        Sophia: "Terri, where did you go?"

                        Terri: "He wasn't a friend, Sophie. None of them are friends."

                        Sophia: "Really?"

                        Terri: "Yes."

                        Terri: "Sophie, give me your hand."

                        Sophia: complies

                        Terri: "Swear to me, that we'll always be friends."

                        Sophia: hesitates

                        Terri: "Trust me. You always did, didn't you?"

                        Sophia: "But that was... was before..."

                        Terri: "Swear."

                        Sophia: "I swear."

                        Terri: "Sophie, we're going to leave now."

                        Sophia: "Where?"

                        Terri: "A place where no one can trick you again."

                        window opens

                        door opens

                        Mother: "Doctor, is everything alright?" Doctor? Sophie? Sophie!"

                        The wind blew through the open window. It was a fell wind, left behind by a creature that preys on the imagination.


                        The Tulpa, by ShoeInk

                        • It would be counterintuitive to make localized time monitors for each account. In order to properly function, it would have to run through lists of the entire userbase, just to check when it needs to update for every individual based on their chosen country. The amount of processing power that would take for each and every time zone, every hour, on the hour, wouldn't be astronomical, per se, but a waste of power.

                          A global update based on one timezone is better, of course. Convenient? No. Feasible? Absolutely.

                          Just make a mental note of the time the site updates, and act accordingly. Isn't that hard, or has technology swaddled you in so much automated comfort that you can't properly schedule a reading pastime?

                          Tsk. Moore's law isn't a measure of how much technology evolves, but instead an exponential curve of human indolence.

                          • I can't say I really have a favorite on this site, since, believe it or not, I don't really read that many web novels.

                            Shocker, I know. Why the hell am I even on this platform?

                            Anyway, of all the novels I have read, hands down my favorite of all time is David Copperfield, by Charles Dickens. I know, it isn't a web novel, but classical literature is great stuff, all from a time when romanticism was at its peak. Since then, it's only been in decline...

                          • Tomoyuki I already accounted for that. Slander is entirely different. As I said, I meant small-time things that really don't matter, such as what SlaveOfTheLord was talking about with someone calling you a donkey. This wasn't about slander, rumors, or anything like that.

                            There are exceptions to every rule, as shadowdrake27 mentioned.

                            Web Novel Novel Ask