WorstNameEver Do you even learn anything when taking college English? I'm almost done with English 101(I'm ony final paper) and all we've done is write essays about how stuff made us feel :/.

    FilledWithHope
    True thats all it actively teaches, but usually those discussions and schoolwork tends to improve how well people can express themselves via writing.
    If you get what I mean

      14 days later

      WorstNameEver
      Check mine out
      Synopsis
      "Quincy"
      "Yes darling"
      "I'm not yours yet"
      "You were mine the moment I laid eyes on you😌"
      "Quincy"
      "Yes darling"
      "You're too old"
      "I heard older guys are spicier. The spicier, the better. I wouldn't say old, I'd say mature😈"
      "Quincy, go home 🤦🏼‍♀️"
      Quincy Davis shamelessly claimed Seraphina Jacob as his. He liked her at first sight, but he fell for her at the first "hello".

      "Sera"
      "Yes Quincy😊"
      "My eyes are up here"
      "Oh My. I prefer the two dangling eyes between your thighs. The nose in between is saying hello to me. Hi little Quincy. Let's get to know each other well in the future😈"
      "Sera, eyes up here not down there🤦🏻‍♂️"
      Seraphina Jacob shamelessly claimed Quincy Davis as hers. She liked him at first "naked" sight, but fell for him at the first "kiss".

      This is a fluttering story about Quincy and Seraphina, and how their love blossomed in the Summer.
      https://m.webnovel.com/book/12472705706547305

        Innovation I am a fan of having people help the author correct their mistakes and stuff but there is a limit. I don't mind pointing out two or three mistakes in a chapter but when the author has a half dozen in the first paragraph and literally hundreds of mistakes it's hard to make the effort. Sometimes I wonder if it would be an entirely different story if I corrected all the errors. Would it be different enough for me to call a fanfiction? I think it might be.

        Please check my novel out if you have time

        https://www.webnovel.com/book/12497669806640505/Hanging-out-with-the-Mutants
        Synopsis:

        In a certain universe, there are humans who developed superpowers known as ‘mutants’. A guy who can read minds; a guy who can shoot lasers from his eyes; a guy who can control metals; a girl who can cause storms, and a girl who can control things with her mind. They are just some of the small population of the mutants in the world. One guy, who neither have superpowers nor any mutation, is hanging out with them. But, what they did not know is that he has a much stronger ability. This is his adventure

          12 days later

          Yucinco

          "a guy"
          "a guy"
          "a guy"
          "a guy"
          "a girl"
          "a girl"

          Bruh, did you not see the other dude's comment about not using the same words in a paragraph?
          Also, guy is a sh*t noun. Is this a comedy or slice of life?

            a month later

            Alright guys, I am going to clarify just what this post was meant for.
            It is mainly meant for the answering of peoples questions about grammar, English, story ideas and other such stuff. I don't care if people are willing to review or judge novels here because I have done it a couple times myself.
            However, please keep in mind this is a novel discussion chat, not a review swap chat.

              WorstNameEver
              I'm an English speaker and I agree about the terrible grammar I see in the more popular original novels. It's really hard to read, but I doubt I'm doing much better. At the very least, I go back to previous chapters and check for errors before publishing while I try not to repeat words too much (This means I actually dish out a thesaurus). If you're still taking offers, I would like your opinion about my novel. A comment about grammar would do far more than a single review.(It's easy to miss errors if I'm the only one reading)

              Link: https://m.webnovel.com/book/12688690205611705

                One of the best discussions I’ve seen here! I really wanted to get this off my chest and I’m glad to find this thread. I don’t say that I’m great at writing but I’ve been dropping books from my library just because I get a headache reading bad English. The story line is good, but it is impossible to decipher what they are trying to relate! And there are some popular original books here with a lot of potential that are in need of serious editing. With a little bit of editing and proof reading they’ll catapult into the limelight!

                  MishaK quoting from piokilek "there are free editors, we call them readers" 😂😂 but that's gonna be troublesome.

                  Oh, wow. This was a worthwhile read. You’ve addressed the issue that I’ve been struggling with on this website. Admittedly, I am also guilty for a few things listed in the Bad and the Fugly (ouch, my face burns), but I’ve also read enough books to notice the mistakes. I’d love to support the original novels but most of them have such terrible English that I just can’t stand them. I get quite peeved when I spot grammatical mistakes (especially in my own works). It makes me unable to concentrate on the story much less care about them. I’ve even written a couple of pretty harsh reviews on those novels (particularly about their grammar), and one of the authors had blocked my review... oof. 😅

                    ihateyounot A bit of advice for everyone. The way I write is (lots of copy-pastes btw):

                    First in Microsoft Word (with multiple read-overs and edits; maybe have an English competent friend help out)

                    Then copy-paste into Webnovel or whatever website it is going to.

                    Read over, edit and format (some sites like qidian prefer certain ways to space. I personally have everything but speech only 1 sentence paragraphs to make it easy for mobile readers. They complained about my walls of text though).

                    I have Grammarly, it helps a lot. Just ignore dumb word corrections. e.g. One time it wanted to make the word "soul" become "soil" in a sentence about soul cultivation in my Eastern Fantasy lol. Use this or something similar for corrections.

                    Copy-paste back to a new Word document (I actually have a base version and Webnovel version of every uploaded chapter of my story in different folders) and use the auto-correct for the finer things (Word has a better correction for certain things compared to Grammarly).

                    Copy-paste back to webnovel or whatever (after deleting the current text in there beforehand of course), then Grammarly it one more time before adding an author's note (Grammarly that too, don't Word it cos no one cares with Author's notes).

                    If you really can't be bothered, then no need to send it back to Word the second time, but atleast save the end result on a NEW Word document since it is nice to see the differences in your writing before and after correction.
                    Don't forget to re=read any edit (usually from the start of that paragraph or half-way through previous one. Basically go back 3 sentences and start reading again to check sentence flow).

                    That is my advice.

                    Hilarious read :D

                    Well, I have to agree with the OP and the posts related to the original topic thereafter.

                    While non-standard English is a problem -- problem embodying itself as illegibility, that's paradoxally not a major one. In terms of software development; if the code doesn't compile you don't have a problem. Analogous, for a story, if I can't comprehend what I'm reading I have to drop it immediately.

                    A major problem, however, is when you can understand the text, but small details like PoV and tenses are all over the place. I'd argue that this kind of poor writing pops up just as often on other sites. Wattpad and RRL comes to mind.

                    After that comes the classic teenaged Gandalf. "Hey, I'm fifteen hundred years old, and all over the story you can read how wise and clever I am. It's a pity I still act and react like the fourteen year old author who wrote this."

                    The next one is more a matter of preferences. Pacing. (Btw, did you notice the non-standard English I deliberately used there?) Old coots like me don't feel scammed when there isn't a pay-off each and every chapter. In fact, when you're used to reading the old school novels; you know, the funny crap made of paper, then you also get used to the story developing at a more sedate pace. It's still a matter of preferences, so I'd be hard pressed to argue that slow paced is better or worse than pacing suitable for a rat high on adrenalin.

                    Lastly, and this is a bit off-topic, but this is MY pet peeve -- reviews. If you review a genre you dislike, don't bloody hammer it because of the genre! Show the author the courtesy of writing a review within the scope of the explicitly stated genre. If you dislike harem stories, which I do, just state that you won't comment on that aspect of the story and get on with the rest of the review.

                    The fifteen cents from someone for whom English is a foreign language.

                      Such a huge wall of text that as an old man I don't have the mental stamina required for concentration to read this crap

                      Learn to articulate, express the thing you want to say in fewest possible amount of sentences, then create space before beginning write about new things. After that just repeat.

                        yu_ba_bu_neng Also I think it is important to write in simple English so that most people understand what you've written, otherwise you might not gain audience...

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