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ThyUnknownSaint IT service's from hardware software inc, I build servers, building plus host websites also deal with google ad words and advertising etc, but I also have a background in films and tv ( with credits ), and also run a wuxia group with over 8.5k members and help other sites/writer's to help promo their new releases if they are part of my group or sites like WW or vola , and i've been doing it for same time as you could class me as an older reader on the higher side of that as well , why did you ask ?

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    I’ve been lurking in the forums and noticed ya, so just got curious hehe lol
    Tryna keep forum post alive with small talk you know?
    But wow that’s cool! I wasn’t expecting big-shots here

      ThyUnknownSaint lol, I'm not a big shot I just happen to be around a bit of time in the background and chat to people and get to know good tl teams then better run sites
      but I hate any companies that treat their clients like fools thinking they can just rip people off when there are so many ways to make cash and not keep to their great claims from over 4yrs ago, which I have full records of via screen grabs and they have no face, to be honest,
      its like 2 days ago I found a bug again on the site with the inbox but it still worked on the phone but now its broken on the phone so I've lost 2yrs of my inbox ... again, and it gets so boring

      Just giving us the option to watch ads to reduce a chapter price by 50-100% would probably lessen the hatred the community is starting to build up.

      It was there before but they removed it and to guess why, it probaly because it was to much work to find the ads. Now they just go with the mentality of you don't want to pay for ss then basically gtfo lol.

        por_tal reduced ss prices. Or ANY way to make it cheaper would solve many complaints

        But mostly a subscription would do it. Many of us are binge readers when we find a novel we like so the cost would still be outrageous

          Kuromeru666 It seems clear from everybody's comments here that the reason the subscription approach failed was not the money coming in, but the money going out. Everybody who gave figures was saying that they were reading 10 to 50 times as much with the subscription; that's much more money going out (via contracts) to the authors/translators than coming in. I don' t think they can price the read-all subscription high enough to accommodate people reading that much!

          How about changing the monthly $25 subscription to getting, say, 2000 SS plus unlimited reading of one "favorite" book for a month? The reader gets a better rate on SS in exchange for the monthly commitment, plus the option to do a binge reading of one book. That solves the important (and getting more important as more books are getting completed) problem of being able to read the massive number of premium chapters in a single book.

          From webnovel's point of view, they get the committed income, plus have a restraint on their outgoing costs to the authors/translators. They may still have to rewrite contracts to pay a lesser amount for chapters read in the "favorite of the month" option, but the accounting will be much simpler and transparent to the authors/translators, in that they can just publish the "favorite" statistics each month. That may even be an attractive alternative to the "Power Ranking" statistics, which are geared towards the ongoing translations/original works and won't be a good ranking of already completed books!

            CrispyCritter i can agree with most of what you have said, as it is rather well thought out. But I do disagree a little and would like to clarify a point.
            When the subscription came, those of us who regularly spent 100$+ on stones a month switched to the subscription.. That DOES cause a lack of cash influx, and then with us who binge read or read multiple novels at a time, that is a heavy outflow of funds towards authors and translators... Both add up quickly, authors were not making much and webnovel also took a large hit.

            From the way it reads you use the premise of webnovel picking, or having readers vote for one novel to be free to read per month, and that webnovel should modify contracts to reduce pay to authors or translators of that novel for that month.. Sounds decent but, i would go the other way and give a marginal increase to those authors as it would incentivize people to bring out better works and pay them for their effort. Or... Allow the readers themselves to pick the novel they wish to read for "free" each month, that way webnovel can see who is reading what and allocate a portion of that subscription to the author on a case by case basis (the programming would not be that hard). So that either way it goes, the funds are handed to the right places in a cleaner fashion without shafting everyone involved.

            In reality i would push the 2nd option. Not everybody agrees on a #1 novel at any one moment so having webnovel pick or readers vote on the monthly novel would still shaft a portion of readers as they would be less likely to utilize their free read, and therefor recieve fewer benefits from their subscription

              They are totally going to drag this issue for as long as they can

                Hmm it's so hard budgeting spirit stones. I tried to use the limited free feature to make up the diff but... then they took it away. And why are the stupid comics so expensive? Most of the 9nes I tried reading did t even make any sense at all.

                  CrispyCritter

                  For $9.99 Kindle unlimited one can read as many books as you want with a limit of 10 out at a time.
                  Since WebNovel items are delivered by chapter, say at 8 SS a chapter on the cheap, a novel length production is around 4-500 SS, which equates to about $8-$9.99 depending on your cash for SS purchase.

                  While they offer a bunch of options, you are semi forced to seek out those options or be stuck with the release rate for your edition of choice.

                  Prior to going premium I spent most of my stones catching up on the stories that were important, and the subscription allowed me to casually pick up additions to my main focus.

                  Once the subscription went away though I just stick to those that really drive my interest because ultimately its is extremely difficult to justify spending $50-$100 a month much less $30 to get what collectively amounts to less than one solid novel of content. At least with the subscription, even after reading 10 chapters of filler, I can at least pretend that the potential content I have at my disposal is worth the price even if I never actually do stray from my focus group of works.

                    Kuromeru666 Your option 2 was what I was proposing; I'm sorry I didn't make it clear. Each reader would choose each month what book they wanted to unllmitedly read. As you say, that shouldn't be too difficult to implement, and them choosing each month would be a recommendation that would be valuable to other readers (thus the alternative poll).

                    Cy_Tan Kindle Unlimited pays the authors less than 1/2 cent per page read (Amazon keeps track of pages read rather than downloads). I don't know what webnovel pays, but that's less than $1.50 for a 300 page book.

                    One of the major problems webnovel has is that their SS payment scheme is geared towards supporting on-going books rather than the completed books. It makes a lot more sense for a reader to pay 20 cents to get the latest and greatest chapter (and support future chapters coming out) than to pay 20 cents for a chapter in a 3 year old book that has 2500 chapters.

                    I'd be happy with a discount for having an autopay. Like if I sign up to get 600 spirit stones every two weeks on autopay they will give me an extra 100 for free each autopsy....

                      Kuromeru666 International trade laws require any trade that crosses national borders to adhere to the strictest laws of the associated nations. Of course, China blatantly refuses to follow this law when exporting usually...and for some reason gets away with it.

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