Privileged chapters
Cantiara #6 just:
"Webnovel reserves the right of all final interpretations".
This exposed all of their scams, they knew what they are doing from the beginning.
RaiXEL He is top 100 Original authors, of course, he would love the money from all of the fat sheep, so It's obvious he would support these kinds of thing.
CKtalon in netflix everyone is paying the monthly while in here its a choice. Between the choices, one is called 'privilege' that the same as concept of netflix with 'advance screening' but still pay to unlock a chapter and the other choice is that we bought ss to unlock the novel and remains unlock (I think) and wait for the scheduled release. Between the two, what has more 'privilege'? It shouldn't be called privilege if they are in disadvantaged.
Look at ww, they have this vip thing that makes those who subscribe read the advance chapter, and that's the proper 'privilege' not like this.
If we want to buy the 'blu ray' we want to buy the whole not the butchered version.
If it wasn't a SCAM why do i feel swindled after i pays 4000 SS. You got me once, i won't pays for another novel or next month.
I've been spending a lot on novels during a few months and I was fine with that since I got to read more chapters of the novels I had been reading.
But now you just ****** things up! How is what you're putting in place any less than scamming people?!
Do you really think people will keep buying ANYTHING on WN if this continues? No. Readers will find another way to read chapters for free in the end.
Let's say I'm spending around 200€/month at the moment, if I need to pay 300€ more to unlock before buying chapters, do you really thing I'll do so? No.
What should I do then:
- Support only 1 translator instead of let's say 5-10 every month and read the other novels for free on some shady application
- Stop giving any money to support the translators and just read on the shady application
Did you really design this feature after thinking it through? Translators are not the only ones you should be thinking about. If you lose your customers, it's the translators that will be hurt in the end.
Illusionist I saw it last night. It was a whole 16 new chapters for rtw. You need $ to buy the priveledge and ss to unlock it further.
Its a priveledge for those paying $$$ if you get what I mean. I better save on those $$$ and read those free ones and keeps updating my novel as well.
Reading is for fun, right? Doesn't require one to pay $$$ unless buying books physically off a bookshelf helps.
sorabaya unless you have a bottomless pit in your bank account and support the authors and translators then it would be a different thing though.
I'd rather spend here than on other mind blowing online games, but I'd stop spending real money after a month of reading and looked back that it's surely burned a hole in my pockets. Just imagine spending like $20 odd dollats every 3 days. Ouch and double ouch!
Tenny2905 I don’t trust this privilege system. it seems like something from when they tried a premium membership subscription. It seems like they just made a you can pay more for early chapters thing that you used to be able to do when some of these were available for free and pay the author directly by donation info to patreon (my spelling is shit). So what is going to happen when they decide that this trial thing or whatever it is goes away? No ty I will be sitting this one out and enjoying the scheduled releases that I know I can trust
RekiChan The books that have been chosen to release the chapters have a bigger stockpile than what is released to ensure a stable release rate. So there will almost guaranteed be 50 chapters already at the promised tier.
Rule #6 is there for when the book is being completed. The book will still continue releasing chapters for the regular readers, so it's to inform Privileged readers ahead of time of this situation. So yes, if the book is ending soon, and has lesser chapters left to the end, then obviously it can only show what's left to you.
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CKtalon Point is, with simple maths you can see how much of a benefit WN/TL will do if they just unlock X chapters without having to pay to unlock them afterward.
Let's take 2500 SS = 50 chapters as a base
2500 / 50 = 50 SS/chapter, which is 3 to 5 times a chapter price (taking 10 to 15 as a base)
Taking the upper base (15):
50 * 15 = 750 SS to unlock 50 chapters
In total, a reader that want to support by unlocking 50 chapters in advance have to pay 3250 SS (50$) which is 4 times the price of unlocking chapters as they are released.
I wouldn't mind spending something between 1500-2500 SS to read 50 chapters in advance if they were just unlocked without having to pay AGAIN to unlock the chapters.
This would still be a huge profit for the translator!
Right now, it seems WN just want to make as much benefit as possible, because I'm pretty sure they're taking a nice margin.
Edit: it seems that everything goes to the translator
healiha webnovel typically takes a 50% cut on paid SS, and authors/translators dont get paid any bonus SS that was used on their novel. so that takes out check-in SS and the bonus SS that comes with buying a large amount of SS.
Since its the same action of buying advance chapters, I'd think its safe to assume they also take 50% on these "privilege" chapters.
CKtalon thanks for the reply. Is there any rules or guidelines regarding how much the translator or Qidian can charge for privileged chapters?
I just check the cost for privileged chapters of 2 novels which are 1 marriage 2 treasures and RTW, for 1M2T they charge 2500ss for 50 chapters while RTW charge 2000ss for 15 chapters. Even if it based on word count I don't think 15 RTW chapters have equals word count to 40 1M2T chapters.
I wonder if they are making money from this from whales or losing money from customers leaving
I wonder if they are making money from this from whales or losing money from customers leaving
healiha From the quoted text, it sounds like it could mean the money goes to those who worked hard for this (privilege chapters) to come about, meaning advocates of this idea (including WebNovel staff). Very vague in terms of who was involved and where the money is going to (honestly, if it was going 100% to translators/editors/authors, WebNovel would have made sure to note that somewhere in their announcement to ensure they are seen in a better light (PR piece)). So I find it hard to believe all of it goes to editors/translators/authors in a fair arrangement.
Also consider that they banned translators/editors who did "Privilege Chapters" aka advanced chapters via Patreon way before WebNovel. If you want to justify saying this is exactly like Patreon-- At least Patreon gave you the chapters as soon as you pledged the amount, not asking you to pay again to unlock them. On top of that, they had milestones for communities to reach, so when certain tiers were reached, it'd help the entire community collectively (increased release rates, monthly mass release increased rates, etc). Furthermore, the content creators in charge of said Patreon actually communicated with their readers more actively and was more inclusive.
What's WebNovel offering anything of benefit outside of it giving more money percentage to WebNovel instead of Patreon and their 'almighty' authors/translators/editors, and omitting many features Patreon offered. Oh right, a shiny new badge online that no one will see because your forums is only meant for people to either complain about your shady practices ("Premium Beta Program", remember your promises/claims then?), your buggy (web) apps, or Original authors circle jerking each other for reviews because they can't get any real 'support' they were promised from WebNovel on advertisement/promotions/etc.
WebNovel's past conduct/shady practices should make anyone doubt rather than optimistically believe that any actions/stance they take is any way good. Remember Premium "Beta" Program? Seem to recall them claiming a lot of things regarding that too, but I don't really see much of that going as claimed and only see that it's become a common practice for all popular novels to become premium. Accepting their 'innovations' will only make them think it was a perfect feature and will likely make every popular novel get their own "Privilege Chapters." What's next, we got to pay extra to read chapters edited by the 'almighty editors' lol?
