Tomoyuki

Just like any big changes, it will take a while before people will get used to it and accept it.

Look at the privilege service. When it was first introduced half a year ago, people were also quick in jumping into the hate bandwagon. I must confess, I was one of them. But primarily it was because of the inadequate information and explanation from WN's side to their users. Not everyone was familiar with Patreon's concept, so I expected more efforts from WN to educate their users.

Same with this one. It will take a while before people will accept these changes. I'm just glad that WN acknowledged and addressed their lack of communication with their users and even apologized for it in their latest message to their readers.

Honestly, the more I read the complaints about the new changes here in the forum, the more depressing it has become for me. Of course, it also has to do with the grey and somber winter weather, and the lack of vitamin D, but I dunno, I just feel that a lot of people suck, lol. Too many selfish, self-entitled people with freebies mentality.

I get free stuff is nice, and a lot of people can't afford to buy coins to enjoy their favorite novels, so I get that it sucks for them upon knowing about the reduced freebies. I get it, I get it. But, man, the level of self-entitlement here... Sigh...

Anyway, I think it's better for me to take a break from the forum for a while. Need to take care of my mental health first.

You've done a good job at explaining stuff, Tomo. Remember to take a breather too sometimes, don't let some of these posts get to you. If they did, just ignore and do something else.

Cheers.

Tomoyuki Just saying, but earlier people could get about 400ss per week if they complete all missions, get all the bonuses, reading rewards and the end week reward. So that equals on avarage to about 55ss - 60ss per day. And how do i know this you ask? Well, if it wasn't like so, i wouldn't have more than 1600ss hoarded. And since ss expires in 30 days, that means those 1670 something ss was a months worth. So yea, you can do the math yourself. If they give 5 or 6 of those fast passes per day, it will be somewhat equal to before...

    Tomoyuki not you! at least not in reading comprehension. sometimes, you're really strangle-able.

    i'm referring to those who didn't read between the lines of webnovel's meticulous wordplay.

      Tomoyuki "I don't know where you get this idea of mythical tasks that we may not get later, but it wouldn't kill you to be patient and wait for more news and information instead of launching into an angry, sarcastic tirade and whining. "

      I mean fool me once, shame on me fool met twice i deserve it. QI has repeatedly screwed most readers with their "updated" systems.

      Originally when QI launched promised 1-2 chapters free a day for ALL their novels. Then they started ad-walling everything (okay we can deal with ads). Then they start pay walling everything with SS (okay well at least we can save up SS over 30 days to read 1 or 2 of our most liked novels).

      Now? You realize this system is balls right? Just statically speaking is super balls. 8-13 SS a chapter? The "fast pass" eliminates the ability for most readers to participate in discounted novels or events, right off the bat. There also 1/3 of the novels on this site that are only 4-6 SS. The shitty 300 word chapters novels. Also the difference between being able to hold SS for 30days in order to see if a story even gets daily updates, versus how more than 64% of the novels get dropped or stopped getting Translation out of no where, screws most readers with this new system. Basic logic isn't that hard.

      Whether this helps QI continue running and make a profit is a different thing, since I mean amazing stories like Pursuing Immorality get dropped with no news of why, and shitty stories get 900 chapters tled, but have 0 PS votes or views. Yikes.

        soo i started reading on this website from late 2017 and it has gradualy turned worse over time, at this point i am just waiting to see how trash can it get, btw i am using other sites instead of this one , seriously just go to other sites at this point, just google it.

        I am not even angry at this point, i was angry when they introduced spirit stones and all that jazz, i was angry when they made the privilage and etc... I am sayng this so people undersand that i do not want to besmirch webnovels reputation (already did it themselves) but there are other options out there, free without payng real money or playng a hoarding game or a strategic game about using your fast pass or coins etc...

        And Tomoyuki i would not have had a problem with this new fast pass thing if they would have not changed the expiry date on them, it used to be one month and now it has reduced to a single week. This is a marketing strategy to make people log in to the website more often and to use theyr fast pass or risk losing them and if a novel u like makes a mass release you would not have the fast passes necesary to read all of them.

        Now you have two choices, you either buy some chapters( webnovel "happy noises") or you just sit and wait for another day to come up with your 3 passes and 5 coins...

        Yep, Webnovel tries to get the best working machine to get money out of people, it tweaks things over the years eventualy creating an ecosystem suitable to farming cash but that is normal because they are a company and it is theyr right to do so, just like it is your right to search other sites if you dont like this one.

          I say no. And no. My friends are books. How about introduce j. London, Dickens, etc? Get back dam monthly subscription. And having decent novels. 20% in my view are just decent quality. It doesnt make sense that think that everything what dam hollywood throws in west will be swallowed ( at least what they think) that any pile of crap of books will be here taken. Especialy when it involves male novels. Why are there so many female novels in that list? Why?

            And by the way even me as buyer of ss. I used to by some novels on discount all chapters and then some of them were locked again. How does that thing works. Writed to qi. Was sent back answer provide history purchase prove. Yeah would if that would be so simple. If you dont delete history yourself. After 1000-3000 chapter purchase now tell me how to do that. So not only regular joi gets messed here but even people who spend 30-50£spenders. And its not just some chapters lost. But... Its some thousands chaptera. Like minimum 3000ss at least lost.

            N0xiety How did you get 55-60 spirit stones per day? Please share. Because all I can ever get spirit stones from is 5 from check-in, 5 from multiplier, 5 from energy stone vote, 5 from power stone vote, and maybe even 5 from watching videos.

            If you have a way to get 30-35 extra free spirit stones per day, please share.

              Where is a staff member? All I've seen them do is pin the message. 😳 Maybe some info diagrams could help, like what the do for skillshare.

                The reason why the monthly subscription was scrapped (taken firsthand from Piokilek, a contracted author):

                "First of all, the Subscription System was removed cause it didn't work at all. Almost all authors lost revenue in those two months by at least 50%. Even if webnovel gets more money this way, you think they will keep the system that takes away 50% of authors revenue? It was basically, "the more chaps you have, the more you earn." Not, "The better your story, the more you earn." The system was just bad and it hurt authors so it had to be removed. I personally lost half of my money so obviously, I voted against it. There is nothing to hide in this matter."

                So yeah, good for you readers, but it screws writers over, which was why Webnovel scrapped it.

                Besides, I have some good news for you (though the more cynical of you will just find something to whine about again).

                https://activity.webnovel.com/noah/57996542/index
                New membership scheme where members get 100% rebate for the first month's purchase and receive 10 coins a day during the membership. Apparently Canada will be the first to try.
                Honestly, instead of whining, you guys can do a bit of searching, fact-finding and asking. Why do I even bother, when all I get in return for explaining stuff and asking for patience are angry reprimands and condescending replies?

                Tahes I literally debunked the statement by showing the current tasks that get you the fast pass.

                Tomoyuki To sum it up, a single Fast Pass allows you to unlock a chapter for free (so it's the equivalent of 8 to 13 coins). It lasts for one week, so make sure you use it. You can get 3 Fast Pass if you introduce a friend. As of right now, you can receive up to 3 Fast Pass a day by doing your usual daily missions (checking in, voting with power stone, voting for energy stone) on the PC site. If you prefer the coins, use the app to check in and vote, and you'll receive 15 power stones (20 if you include multiplier rewards). It depends on what you want.

                Whether you think this system is balls or not is none of my concern. I already said I don't know if the new system is good or bad. I was merely responding to some guy who scoffed at me when I said there will be tasks that you can do to get fast pass. He claimed that no such tasks exist and scoffed at me by calling them mythical even though I already provided concrete examples of existing tasks that do give you fast pass. I'm not sure what he's trying to do, but come on, I just literally gave you an explanation, and you still find something to complain about, and on something that is not true. Really? In other words, all I'm saying is, fact-check, clarify, and find out for sure before you start whining.

                The minimum cost of a chapter should be 5 spirit stones, because Inkstone doesn't allow you to publish a premium chapter that's less than 1,000 words, and the minimum 1,000 words cost 5 spirit stones at least. Each chapter costs 1 coin/spirit stone for every 200 words and part thereof. 300 word chapters cannot be published as premium, and they would only cost 2 spirit stones at most, so I have no idea how you're doing your math.

                Also, that has got to be a super-entitled statement I have ever heard. You get these spirit stones for free, and it's not enough. Now you want to use these free spirit stones for discounted novels or events and whine when you can't. Seriously? You're complaining that you can't use what you got for free for something that is discounted? That's like me taking a rationing coupon that I received from welfare, and then complaining to the supermarket that I can't use it to purchase the stuff that's on a discount sale. What in the world...? You know what the purpose of a discount is for, right? You know, for people to pay less and save money...and you're complaining that you can't use the coins you get for free for discounted stuff? By the way, you can't use Free Passes on stories that are on events. So that's a pretty moot point.

                Additionally, Qidian has nothing to do with writers or translators' update schedules, as far as I know of. There is absolutely nothing Qidian can do if a writer or translator goes MIA. What, you want them to fire them or something? Take away their contract? If a writer chooses to drop his story out of nowhere, that's his fault and his responsibility. It's useless to blame Qidian. They don't micromanage our lives and supervise us to make sure we write. If your story is dropped, you should approach the writers or the translators directly (though that's probably difficult unless you added them on Discord). They are the ones who know best, not Qidian.

                Also, the reason why Pursuing Immorality got dropped is because the translation team went MIA. Whereas the stories with 900 chapters translated have dedicated teams who are committed to seeing their project through until the very end. You call them shitty and don't like them, but you have no right to tell translation teams what to translate and what not to translate. What gets translated, what gets dropped, etc. are all down to the individual translation teams responsible for those projects. Not Qidian.

                  Ok, so we Canadian will try first when we buy a coin? Sorry be born in Canada but in a French Canadian place, my English isn't the best. I probably I need to reread this tread again...

                  I did change from scroll to page. I did still have a bug with my reading time. I think it's because Canada did load the application the last in the world...I mean the update...everyone talking about fastpass and coin...but o.o I don't have any....

                  Do we have any other member from Canada? Il y a t'il d'autres Canadiens autre que Moi ici? J'ai comme l'impression d'être perdue la😣😣😣😣

                    Yume97 It's not out yet. Canada is the first place to receive the perks (I think), but nothing has been released yet. They're telling you to look forward to more news.

                    Merci.

                    You didn't receive either coins or fast pass when you check in and vote? Are you on the PC site or mobile phone app?

                      Tomoyuki
                      😊 thank to reply
                      Nope not on my cell...I always read on my Samsung tab...I can also install on my surface but a bit more heavy to bring with me.

                      Nope never!!! Not any coin, fast pass, nothing change from I change from scroll to page...I use to read more than 900 minutes but now kinda busy to run everywhere for Christmas gif...I only read o.o 70 minutes..
                      Also in the Samsung tab, I can see only 5 ss for each reading...but on the webnovel.com o.o it's 10 coins for the reading..for 30 minutes...

                      That why I want to ask if any Canadians have a same problem like me ....
                      Hey, les Canadiens, ecq vous avez le même problème que moi ou je suis la seule? Depuis le début, rien ne fonctionne. A part de lire les même nouvelles que je lis d'habitude et que je perds énormément de SS et n'augmente jamais hm. C'est bien triste là 😢😢😢

                        Yume97 Huh, strange. The new fast pass is pretty hard to see, it's beside your power stones and energy stones icons. Just so you know. I'm not sure about the reading thing, though. Sorry about that. Desole.

                          I understand that this is a business like i said, and that they need to have some methods to make money but this is absolutly greedy, webnovel tries anithyng new to produce more money even if they hurt the authors or people on theyr site, they give up only when it realy is absurd, like the monthly subscription, i guess a lot of authors would have left for greener pastures if they did not scrape it.

                          Tomoyuki Additionally, Qidian has nothing to do with writers or translators' update schedules, as far as I know of. There is absolutely nothing Qidian can do if a writer or translator goes MIA. What, you want them to fire them or something? Take away their contract? If a writer chooses to drop his story out of nowhere, that's his fault and his responsibility. It's useless to blame Qidian. They don't micromanage our lives and supervise us to make sure we write. If your story is dropped, you should approach the writers or the translators directly (though that's probably difficult unless you added them on Discord). They are the ones who know best, not Qidian.

                          Well that is how contract work, if a party does not fulfil it's end of bargain than they face consequences.

                          And that the people on this site whine when Quidian does some mumbo jambo for more money

                          Tomoyuki Now you want to use these free spirit stones for discounted novels or events and whine when you can't. Seriously? You're complaining that you can't use what you got for free for something that is discounted? That's like me taking a rationing coupon that I received from welfare, and then complaining to the supermarket that I can't use it to purchase the stuff that's on a discount sale.

                          I am prety sure the authors also whined when they losed almost 50% on revenue in those two months of monthly subscription and that is how quidian just scraped it alltogether, although by what you said so far the authors should have been grateful that they at least get something out of theyr works.

                          This is the same with the people on the site, they get progresivly worse free deals but they should be glad that they get them no? because they are "free".

                          Whining as you said it is what keeps Quidian not do dumb shit although they still do sometimes...
                          When it gets bad enough though we could just jump ships.

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