I also didn't accept their contract invitation because of my love for my story. My friends told me to sign because I get paid, but I feel like I'm just being a surrogate mother if I did that. I don't want to give my babies away.
Question on WN contract
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Yup. As long as you dont sign a contract, you can publish anywhere you want other than WN. Once you sign, the publishing and copyrights go to WN exclusively. So if you have published anywhere else, you gotta take it down.
Yup. As long as you dont sign a contract, you can publish anywhere you want other than WN. Once you sign, the publishing and copyrights go to WN exclusively. So if you have published anywhere else, you gotta take it down.
Yup. As long as you dont sign a contract, you can publish anywhere you want other than WN. Once you sign, the publishing and copyrights go to WN exclusively. So if you have published anywhere else, you gotta take it down.
ReincarnatedSaint Yes, they won't interfere. You can do anything you want with your work.
enthu_reader Even if you sign, you can still keep your rights. Just make sure you sign the RC contract, only.
ImMK Try this, just for the fun of it. If your book is good, it might work for you and if not, they will just say no to your offer. No harm done. Ok.
You can accept the contract. You just have to make some written requests in the request box. They'll probably send your contract back to you with 'Who do you think you are?'.
But, they'll notice you and follow your work.
Works like charm. 
Btw, contract signing is not that bad. They invest in you and you have your exposure and some coins, in exchange for the rights to your work. Fair deal? 
But my story ain't got 500 or 1000 colls or like million views. 
Why will they give me RC contract? They will just tell to suck up with this since it's my first story and still growing
enthu_reader Yea, they'll definitely tell you to bog-off .
If you really don't give a damn about the general FR contract, then, you can ask for the elusive Royalty Contract. They'll say no and send it back to you to adjust and so on.
Even if they reject your offer eventually, you are on their radar. They know who you are. It's good.
If your book is getting more and more popular, they'll get in touch again.
enthu_reader You don’t necessarily need those numbers to be considered for contract. Even with low stats, if you write well, the editors will take notice. It doesn’t hurt to send your work in if you’re interested. I see those numbers as being necessary for less, er, stellarly written stories. Then you probably need more proof of concept beyond your writing ability and story alone.
Chryiss I believe he was talking about the Royalty Contract.
The numbers are not needed for the Fixed-Rate Contract but for the Royalty Contract, they are definitely needed.
You want to keep your copyrights, you have to back it up with numbers (popularity). With numbers, comes higher revenue to be shared. Everybody is happy with that. But their won't be invested promotion in a work with low numbers, no potential income revenue and the author still keep the copyright.
This is where I am right now. I hope we come to an agreement or something. Personally, I love the terms of the Royalty Contract. No hard feelings for the Fixed-Rate Contract, not just for me.
Do you have a Discord account? I have something I want to chat with you about regarding the future of your story
Clowniac#7342 is my ID. Add me as a friend and let's talk.
It depends a lot of your situation and the country you live in.
In France, with my current job i would need to be top 20 at the very least to make writing full-time worth it. Obviously, i won't sign such an unfair contract for an uncertain success.
But in some countries you can live well with 800$ or less, whereas in USA you can still claim for some social assistance with 3000$.
Primate Ah I see, I misinterpreted it as deciding between the two types.
It’s a shame that good quality but unpopular works don’t have a fair chance of getting the RC when popular cookie cutters are allowed the benefit of retaining their work. If this was serious publishing, those good quality small time stories would be chosen any day over the cookie cutters found in this sight. It’s a real rip off toward that author. However, as Clowniac said below your post, I guess nothing really is lost due to how poor those contract terms are.
Joking. No hard feelings and hard-headed morons were harmed in this post. I thinkVeronica8 LOL. It’s okay, at one point too I considered it for my tree novel since it wasn’t my main story which I would never give away. Besides, I wouldn’t want to see them force some mainstream crap on it to sell and ruin the artistic intentions I was trying to convey.
I will say honestly though, and I’ve expressed this to you before kinda, it does make me sad seeing you giving away rights to TMS. I feel one day, on a more suitable platform, it would receive the credit it deserves. Society is shifting, little by little, that more would be open to lgbt themes.
Clowniac If you are talking about the Fixed-Rate contract, fair enough then. And I believe you are talking about this particular contract. Though I won't say anything bad about it, this very contract is not to my liking. Anyone offered this, should read properly before signing it. The advantages and the disadvantges. Anyone ok with this? By all means, go ahead.
P.S: I know few who are quite happy with this contract
But if it's the Royalty contract, I will have to disagree, totally. Having read the terms of this particular contract, I can only say that it's a good one. Really good one.
Apart from the author keeping all the rights, the one I like most about it is that, they source for the work's adaptations for the author. Though, they receive higher percentage. I'm cool with this. Personally, I love this very contract.
Chryiss I totally agreed with you. It's very sad to see some work getting the Royalty contract over the really great ones. So sad. As for me, it's the Royalty contract or nothing.
Primate I would like to see that better contract, because as far as I'm aware, the contract I quoted is royalty based. Royalty contract doesn't mean you get to keep the copyright. You get 50-50 share of royalties. The fix rate is different, because they actually pay you money for the novel, no matter how much it earns. You agree a price beforehand, and all the other specifics.
For example, they will pay you $2000 for a novel that has 400 chapters. In other words they will pay you, let's say $5 for each chapter. If they earn $20 on that chapter, you will still get $5. That is what fixed rate is. Royalty means 50%, in other words if they earn $20 you get half. If they earn $5, you get half as well. In both cases, you transfer the copyright to your novel. If I'm wrong, show me the better contract.
Primate if it's the Royalty contract, I will have to disagree, totally. Having read the terms of this particular contract, I can only say that it's a good one. Really good one.
Apart from the author keeping all the rights, the one I like most about it is that, they source for the work's adaptations for the author. Though, they receive higher percentage. I'm cool with this. Personally, I love this very contract.
Yeah, too bad they act like it doesn't exist when you ask, and insist only the fixed rate contract exists.
I would sign Second Life in a heartbeat if I was offered a decent Royalty contract, but no one seems interested in playing ball.
Chryiss I will say honestly though, and I’ve expressed this to you before kinda, it does make me sad seeing you giving away rights to TMS.
It's all part of my evil plans... muwahahaha. :smiling_imp: I infiltrate their contract catalog, I gain control of WN world!
no hard-headed morons or eggplants were harmed in the making of this post
DarkRay It does exist and I actually **** both copies. Fixed-Rate contract is 20 pages while Royalty contract is 8 pages. Honestly, what you quoted are the terms of the FR contract. Better? Depends on the author. But as far as I'm concerned, yea, the RC is way better.
And I think I will stop it here. I believe we are still on the green line of confidentiality, at least one leg on it. Still negotiating mine. They might agree it with me before next year, who knows. I don't want to shoot myself in the foot.
Everyone, do whatever you deem fit.
Disclaimer: I was never here.
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Primate You have no clue what you are talking about. I just contacted an editor, they don't offer Fixed Rate contracts, only Royalty contracts. Moreover, I explained to you the difference, and the editor confirmed that too. With fix rate contract, you are creating the content for webnovel, and get paid by creation. Royalty contract is what I told you. You get monthly royalties as long as its over $200, and you will get them pretty much until the copyright expires (pretty much your lifetime). As long as your book makes money, you will get royalties. That is the difference between those two contracts. So don't tell me I have a FRC, when I have royalty contract on my hands. And they don't supply FRCs, that is what an editor said.
In both cases you grant them copyright. You have to grant them copyright, because otherwise you'd be able to fuck them in their assess, and they wouldn't be able to do anything about it. There are different copyrights rights (or licenses) you can grant. You obviously don't know that, otherwise you wouldn't write such nonsense. I urge you to go and seek legal advice before you sign anything, so that later you don't cry. To the rest, don't listen to this guy. Ask an editor if in doubt, not some user who talks rubbish.
DarkRay An editor? From your words, sounds more like you might be talking to Bryce or Sunnyy. Quite funny, been on this road before. Anyway, you do you and good luck as a writer. We are all here, as writers, to make the most of the works we love to write but at the end of the day, it rests on each writer to make his/her own path.
Please, don't mind my words.
I can only say, 'Whatever'.
Nonetheless, good luck to all authors.
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Well, since most authors are offered a contract where they earn a percentage of the "sales" of their chapters, it doesn't seem like FIXED-rate. Is there someone out there that was offered a price for each chapter, paid upfront, no matter if readers will read/pay the chapters or not?
Primate How about you actually address those things, instead of retreating? If it's funny, by all means prove it. Show me at least a piece of that contract, you speak of. Even better, I will give you my discord. Provide your evidence there, and I can show you 21 pages of a royalty contract as well. Because I can actually read with understanding. But, you are free to hide, it's your choice. Here is my discord: DarkRay#7085
It is true that there have been never a contractor with the fixed-rate deal.Original authors right now only saw the royalty-contract ,
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Is there anyone who has recently signed a contract? I don't understand what is the issue but my contract is getting rejected because of handwritten signature. I have signed in the format as given by them but they have sent it two times back saying it as wrong 
God knows how many times I have written my plot outline >.>
@WEBNOVEL_OFFICIAL
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Did you ask your editor? You must sign by hand and add you name,full name,middle name beside exactly like on your ID by hand too.
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enthu_reader I noticed this from an editor's comments on completion of contract.
1) Fill in your details under Inkstone > Contracts tab
2) Print out the contract with your typed details
3) Handwritten signatures are a must. You must also write your full name beside every signature, and it must follow your ID exactly. It is now case sensitive.
4) Scan the signed copies, and upload it back up to Inkstone along with your ID
That would be a scan copy of your ID.
Only government-issued IDs with your picture are accepted.
How your name appears on the ID card must be the same way written on the form.
Eg. If the ID card shows the name format as MAIN Character. That's how you'd write it on every page next to where you need to sign.
Otherwise the system or editors (not sure which) will reject and return errors from what I've heard around.
enthu_reader how long did it take for you to get a response I have sighned my contract two weeks ago and it still says somone will check it soon?
JKSManga I guess in three to four days.
Veronica8
I see. Is the sign supposed to be different? Coz one fellow author was also facing this same issue and her editor told that our usual sign don't work. We have to make up a sign that includes our full name in it. Usually our sign is small with only initials and surname, but in contract signature they need the full sign as in full name in signature too.
I dropped her a dm on discord but my editor was offline for the whole day 
Veronica8 I will add one thing there. Contracted writers don't always have to inform their editors about everything regarding the plot changes. Not even for the cover. You can if your editor asks for it or if you want to give them simple updates. Otherwise it's not necessary.
However, if you have queries on a plot which may breach the contract (eg underage smut) then you must ask your editor first.
I don't think the contract ever sends until the story is done, and then they can ask you if they want to pick up your other story. I don't think they ever lose copyright of the book, and as of right now I haven't seen them sell the books on amazon or in any other place.
enthu_reader How did you know who your editor is?
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enthu_reader You've commented this a lot, but I think it's best to check the Inkstone discord server. Nano, one of the mods, posted a good explanation on the pinned messages of the "General chat" channel :) The editors are also really busy, which might explain why they're offline. Since we can't really see your signature (I'd advise to not post it on such a public forum), it's better to ask these questions to the editor you originally contacted. They'll be able to see the signature and inform you of the mistakes.
JKSManga You'll get assigned a content editor when you're contracted. But if you're not, then you can approach any of them. I think Hao and Bryce mainly deal with male-lead novels?
