I can see that you guys want to continue. Go on, no ones watching. No need to hold back.
What’s a trope you are tired of seeing?
And that is how you put an end to a heated discussion.
Yours truly,
Partypooper
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Ending it by doing your mum. Shame, someone already did it. How about a new trope... there's a war, but to decide the winner... each side need to do their enemies mom while listening to ray william johsnon - doing your mom.
God I'm very good at creating Pure Original tropes
And this is a reply for the current discussion
Btw I don't like trope about ceo stuff, op character that can do anything, gods (except god of doing your mom), going to new body/life 'cus their current life suck ass (dude if your life sucks don't commit suicide in the story, go out with a bang... be a serial killer, arsonist, etc. dying alone feel sucks 'hur duurrr my life is boring... I'm going to kill myself hur duurrr..' then the dude transported or something happened, so he live in a world of harem then screwed all of the girls, committing countless acts like a certified sex offender does. Dude, steal a plane and do couple of stunts before crash diving into a forest and burn it to the ground). If you create your character to be murdered, have a big accident... example; 9/11, buried alive, tortured by quentin tarantino gimp, crushed by a tower. don't die after getting shot or having a car accident.
There i just create the greatest 'going to new life/body trope, hope you can frickin enjoy it. Hope you have a good day :D
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shadowdrake27 like lovecraft or Rocky Horror Picture Show?
I take it back, Tim Curry made all movies good from his mere presence
Now, this mostly occur in Bl transmigration books. I am so tired of seeing mc transmigrates and instantly classify every person as a 2D Character. It is vexing.
Misguided_Rooster
i totally agree, but mister is there a way to write a good novel
Misguided_Rooster
PLs is there a way to write a good novel, with no trope. pls i need some advice
Dzeeck ude if your life sucks don't commit suicide in the story, go out with a bang... be a serial killer, arsonist, etc.
There are literally Japanese isekai stories about this...about people who become serial killers to take revenge for their raped and murdered childhood friend/sister, get sentenced to death, and after their execution (and awesome headlines in the news), they get reincarnated into another world where they can put their serial killer skills to good use.
Erica_Abakah You don't need to ignore tropes. They are there for a reason. In every generation, there are gonna be people, who just want to read a good prince goes to the rescue of the princess type story. If you try to write without using tropes, you'll run into a few problems:
1, It's really hard to figure out a story, that wouldn't work accordingly: Say you're main characters are about to assault the villains, in their hidden lair. What would happen there? What would go wrong, go right, etc? If you don't use tropes in that situation, you'll still operate based on those tropes. Either the bad guys will win, or the good ones. If you end that bit with casualties on both sides, it probably will be too realistic for [MOST] people to relate.
2, You'll have to take your readers into consideration. They'll be expecting something, and if that expectation will not come true, it'll cause some issues later down the line. Always ask yourself: What do your readers expect? And in that, think what you would personally expect.
3, Tropes will always come true at some point. There's not a single story out there without any tropes. Even if you just have a well written character, say a side character, who is the main characters coworker. Let's go with her being a woman, she just lives her life, does her stuff, and occasionally show up in the story, whenever she'd logically show up. If you want to put a twist on her character, let's say she shows up mostly when it's a corporate celebration, like a dinner. The twist would most likely be something like her being a a really bad drunk, eat a lot of food (more than what you'd expect), but even if she's just entire cultured, and a normal human being, at some point that would fit into a certain trope.
4, Tropes are created by the plot. You can't just write a story, without thinking about it ina generic way. Say, you're creating a fantasy story. Let's say it's not a transmigration story. How would you start? Who's the main character? What would come to mind? I'd say, for me at least, it'd definitely either be a rags-to-riches type character, or a prince, of sorts (I mostly think in writing ML stories, I'm bad at writing legit female characters lol). Who's the 'best friend' type character? Is there one? If there is, congrats, that's a trope. If there isn't, well, it's just a lack of trope in one way. There'd probably be another character taking this one's place.
TL;DR: You can't write without tropes, they're essential in stories, both as a plot device, as well as to create the plot. Characters by themselves can be tropes. Settings can be tropes. Everything at the end of the day is a trope. Also, think of your readers expeectations.
Benny Manatee signing out.
Tomoyuki What's the title? I kinda wanna read it lol
Benny_Manatee Uh, let me look for them.
First one is: Fukushuu Kansuisha no Jinsei Nishuume Isekaitan - that's the one where his sister was raped and murdered, and he hunted them down for 5 years.
I'm sorry, I can't remember the title of the second one where he avenges his childhood friend who got raped and murdered by killng all of her rapists and murderers and gets executed, but it's one where he gets reborn in another world where all the men have gone crazy (basically turned into zombies) and go around raping women. To death.
Tomoyuki Second one sounds more like a hentai plot, if anything lol Thanks mate, appreciate it.
Benny_Manatee raping zombies duuudd, let's goooooooooooooooo!
Benny_Manatee That's what I thought too, but the poor guy throws up whenever a woman makes a move on him (apparently he's too attached to his childhood friend or something). If I ever find it again, I'll let you know.
Dzeeck Is there a story about dying in 9/11? if not, i'm going to create it
I dunno, for one thing that's an American event, not Japanese, so...
Mai0414 I wish she become a doctor (a real one, not a fake one), no, they can become only actresses and models.......Nothing else. It seems if you a woman in China, the only good jobs are the ones where you can say to be beautiful
scarlett1414 Oh, God...I hate that too. There was one story I liked where the female lead is a doctor, and I'm glad the manhua version ended that way (I think it was CEO's Sudden Proposal or Flash Marriage Deep Love, depending on who translated it). However, the readers of the novel told me that the doctor female lead for no reason decided to switch careers later in the story and become a designer. Like what the f?! How does one switch from being a doctor to a designer? It's like all these CEO authors have some sort of obsession with not just CEOs, but the entertainment industry.
Harem, isekai, video game leveling up type of power system, and overpowered main characters, it's amazing how common these type of series are to like 90% of readers on this site and any other.