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KurazyTolanzuraytor
Good luck.
I respect your decision and there is nothing wrong with it. I will surely read TE when I get time. Thanks for your work (even though I do not like WSSTH as its too cliche but I read most of it).

I wouldn't have written what's below if I did not see people above glorifying your action. Honestly what you wrote above makes me lose many browny points towards you. There is nothing to glorify you or there is nothing to criticize you. Just can't stay silent after seeing this.

KurazyTolanzuraytor I want to be the owner of my words and retain the copyright of my translations. I no longer feel that it is worth it to exchange my work for the fixed pay Qidian has promised.

Do you know what my subconscious told me after reading this?
Since QI took out patreon system and adapted the SS system and you are not getting any bonus money. (Not sure how much money you were making from WSSTH patreon, but that's what the above sentence made me feel.)

KurazyTolanzuraytor I’d always wanted to translate but never had the patience, especially if I had to start from forums while hoping to be recognized. (We all know which forums I’m talking about :/) Then one fine day, I found webnovel.com, a website which would recruit people like me – people with no experience - for a steady wage. I grabbed the opportunity and from that day onwards, translating became my full-time job.

So, you want to get into WW from the beginning, but you did not want to translate for nothing to get in. Then webnovel.com came in and you got in. QI helped you when you were unemployed and made translating your full-time job. (For an unemployed person, this should be good news.)
So, they took you in with your subpar quality and gave you a chance.

KurazyTolanzuraytor Fast-forward a few months, after many chapters (which I feel are quite shitty when I look back at them now), I was getting better and an opportunity presented itself, allowing me to apply directly to WW. It was also around this time that I started to value my work more than the fixed pay.

So, you used QI to get better.
You improved while getting paid. After you improved, you applied to WW where there are thousands of patreons and you get ad revenue as well.

KurazyTolanzuraytor I’d rather take my chances, rely on the heartfelt support of everyone, and retain the rights to my hard work than give it away for a steady pay-cheque.

Of course, you have to because you decided to do so.

KurazyTolanzuraytor I don’t see eye to eye with the SS payout system, and it’s no longer something that’s worth my time because I won’t be able to retain the rights to my work.

Now that you think you have improved, you could be disappointed to not a get a raise with your skills. The new SS system did not give any benefit to you but rather took out your patreon income.

KurazyTolanzuraytor Final note to everyone and especially readers of WSSTH, let me shamelessly introduce you to Talisman Emperor and look forward to my new 2nd novel

Since you got the time to work on a 2nd novel, the 2 identities is not a big deal, you could work on both. Just that you did not like the copyright part or pay of QI. Nothing wrong with that.

As usual an analogy.
You had hots for a girl but you didn't have the appeal to ask her out.
Then there came a girl who accepted you despite your shitty looks and bad skills. She provided you steady things and helped you stand on your own and made you appealing to others. But she had a condition, you have to be a passive partner where she makes decisions for you. You were fine with it initially and after you gained your appeal and improved your skills, you could not stand being a passive partner. You went up to the other girl you had the crush on and started double playing. (Nothing wrong with that. I want people to work on both WW and QI lol)
Once you get experienced, you ditched the first girl and started BITCHING about how she wanted a passive partner, not an equal partner. (I am exaggerating lol).

There is nothing wrong with ditching, just STOP BITCHING about that after the help you received from them.

Disclaimer: Bro. I got nothing personal against you. I have received nothing from QI and I usually criticize them. Just want to let you know how bad what you wrote above sounded to me. I do not know any details behind your decision, so I am just exaggerating and making whatever written above.

Just give QI thanks and end it well.

KingBiBiK (Not sure how much money you were making from WSSTH patreon, but that's what the above sentence made me feel.)

WSSTH patreon was bringing in several thousand every month. QI cut that to zero!

It's also worth noting that translators get $0 of Premium revenue unless they restructure their contracts. It's why translators are bailing on QI (WSSTH & Swallowed Star TL's are gone, who will be next?)

KingBiBiK So, you used QI to get better.
You improved while getting paid. After you improved, you applied to WW where there are thousands of patreons and you get ad revenue as well.

Again, you are out of line to an extent.

A. WSSTH has been one of the most prolific novels translated on QI. It's one of best-translated series. Nothing ever seems MTL'd nor is the editing ever subpar. Sure there might be proofreading errors occasionally but that's it.

Describing it as sub par is foolish.

Now whether the story is good, that's all subjective so I leave that one be.

B. Talisman Emperor has been an ongoing translation on WW since September of last year. 378 Chapters on top of the 800+ WSSTH chapters here on QI is pretty impressive.

KingBiBiK you also completely ignore the fact that Kurazy was generous enough to share his Glossary with QI something that is not required. That will help ensure that there is no interruption in the series between translators.

To be honest, it's kinda of ludicrous that you are giving a translator crap because they decided not to continue translating a novel after the publisher(QI) decided to take thousands of dollars from them PER MONTH???

KingBiBiK
Except the girl doesn't care. :)
I didn't want to release this, but here's a timeline of what happened today.

I told Yuren(The Boss of Webnovel) that I wanted to quit at 4.09p.m. GMT+8
Sunny came and sent me a message instead at 4.28
I didn't like how unprofessionally he was handling this by sending Sunny instead of talking to me directly, so I decided to just go ahead with my post at 4.30
EFT's boss aka DAN told me he got the novel at 5pm
Yuren comes asking what happened n if i need help at 6.20
Then says oh I saw your post at 6.48

Also, I pretty much admitted that I'm not happy with the pay now because it's not worth my copyright. Which also implies I was fine with it while I was able to post on Patreon.

SS doesn't pay a cent to any TL because there is no premium contract to convert to right now.

Yes, I always liked WW, and I was lazy. I'm a gamer, I had to compare between giving up hours of gaming time vs something that might not work out, so yes I didn't bother to try.

Honestly, the main reason I even decided and had the feeling that I should approach WW was because I didn't feel Qidian would be able to run through the thousands and millions it does for all the novels for long. Frankly, it wasn't earning anything while spending a ton to build itself up. I felt their extremely high expenditure on things like very bad mtl-ish translations and people like CK would sooner or later cause their venture to be unprofitable. I secured a backup plan which turned out to be a wise decision.

Final note, yes I'm trying to end it well which is why I gave up the glossary which benefits both QI and all the readers.

KurazyTolanzuraytor

KurazyTolanzuraytor Except the girl doesn't care. :)

You got that right lol.
The girl does not care about a LOT of things.

Looks like I nailed it except exaggerating it a bit, lol. There is nothing wrong with what you did and if I was in your shoes, I would have done the same.
Unless they implement original authors successfully and earn a profit from it, I see no bright future at the moment.

Yea, WW has high-quality standards which makes it elite and hard to get in even as a translator, not to mention an Original author.
But the offer of steady pay for a beginner itself is alluring. It did increase the translation rate of each novel for good or bad (quality dropped for most).

As for QI, there is a lot negative trend going on, some with base and some unnecessary. I just did not like how people started using this to start bashing QI (which is kinda unnecessary). You signed up knowing you won't get rights and you quit when you felt you deserve better. Period.
Hope you understand.

I thought it wasn't a fixed pay anymore with SS? I thought you got a share of that no?

If not, it's certainly not worth it, SS is a ripoff as a currency aswell.

CKtalon ¯_(ツ)_/¯