Tomoyuki How in the heavens Elite and Privilege can be considered to be the same thing? It is like saying that pear is different shaped apple.
Although I don't really like Privilege system, if someone want to spend let them spend, but the only similarities is that you pay for them and they last for month.
So in my opinion. No they didn't respond in any way and ignored us.
【Important Announcement】Monthly Elite subscriptions adjustment
Cynical_Taste
They're not the same thing. One was created to replace the other. Pear and apples are fruits. And they're both members of the plant family Rosaceae, within the sub-family pomoideae. So technically...
Similarly, Elite and Privilege both cost money, and in the end support authors. Elite didn't work in the ways Webnovel wanted, so Privilege was put in place so that authors actually got money. Thank you for coming to my TED talk. Just give them your money on Patreon honestly.
Lilliny
Well, that's kind of what I was getting at. They are still two different kinds of fruits.
As for Patreon, you are right but it is simply easier to keep track on app.
Cynical_Taste If you understand that, what are you complaining about? If one thing didn't work, they have to change it into something else.
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Cynical_Taste Lilliny is correct. And you still don't quite get it, do you? If your fruit vendor stops selling apples and starts selling pears, there is no reason for him to continue reserving an entire empty table for apples and taking care of it when he has already discontinued selling them. He's not blatantly ignoring his customers, he is quite clearly discontinuing one product to sell another.
Fruit Vendor: "All right, from today onward, I'm going to stop selling apples and start selling pears. We had a situation where farmers were suffering a drastic drop in income when they sell apples. Everyone, please take a look at these pears instead. I know they are a bit on the pricy side, but the farmers make more money growing them."
Customer: "How dare you stop selling apples?! Why didn't you update me on the status of apples?! Hey! Are you blatantly ignoring me?!"
-> that's pretty much what it sounds like right now.
13 days later
I think it's more like this
Fruit Vendor: "All right, from today onward, I'm going to stop selling apples and start selling golden pears. But just so you know we my revisit the idea of selling apples again. Now everyone, please take a look at these golden pears instead. I know they are on the very pricy side, but...tough luck."
Customer: "why did you stop selling apples? Why didn't you update me on the status of apples? Hey! Why are you blatantly ignoring me?!"
Fruit Vendor (after some time, and still not addressing the customers that made the comment): "I stopped selling apples and start selling golden pears because we had a situation where farmers were suffering a drastic drop in income when they sell apples."
Lilliny
Yes they get money, and good for them, but please take a look at what the customers get, for paying 10 dollars you may get 50 or less chapters, and I feel that the customers are getting less from this deal. For 10 dollars you can buy a full book on Kindle, or you pay for a subscription to Kindle unlimited (also 10 dollars), you can borrow book and read as many of them as you can, and boy I sure did... Still am...
alexandrovich977 They say ihe price is cheap now because a cheapter costs only 0,2$. They say a book on this Plattform is many times longer then a saga like Harry Potter.
They say we are cheap ones because we don't like or we can't pay for this amount of spirit stones we need to read.
I say everytime we have following problems in this plattform:
- Low quality
- high filler rate
- unfinished products
- Performance drop from authors
- high costs to read a book or to read until the newest chapter
And the biggest problem:
The customer isn't much worth. The system changes every time to a worse state then before (free reading - > ads - > spirit stones - > elite membership - > privilege - > coins)
I am here since I think two or three years. I saw every change. The only good change was the elite membership for readers like me
Most people read more than one book at the same time. If I would sum up all of my books online I read and calculate the costs like quidian I would have to pay hundreds of $ every fucking month...
Maybe it is because I read two hours almost every day and at least 100 words per minute. 
No from me and I hope every day that the novels on my list don't get bought by quidian.
5 days later
When they will give us monthly subscription?
Just realized, the ss got expired so quickly day by day.
Reinesse not if they remove fast passes, effectively forcing people into buying the subscription, that they could offer for ~ 5,99 + another sub to unlock privilege chapters of one novel.
I'm certain that a lot of people would buy it if they would remove fast passes. And it would be fair for everyone, paying users wouldn't have to pay exorbitant prices to make up for the freeloaders.
The big problem with cost is the random quality on site. On one hand authors of good stories and consistent translations should indeed be rewarded for their work, but what about the flakefests? The ones putting out babelfish translator chapters, the ones who go silent for weeks and so forth.
Everyone defending qidians gouging is putting it in terms of one product that equals another, just different taste, but the root of the problem isn't apples and pears to use the fruit vendor analogy.
Rather it's the vendor selling every peice of fruit in his cart for a high premium despite more than half the cart being wormy, rotted or infested. Sure there lots of quality samples but you have to root through a literal dumpsters worth of trash to find this lucky pristine fruit.
Now yes, no one is forcing you to buy from the vendor, you could go to the farmers of quality fruit directly in some cases, in others you can follow less legal means and try getting the good fruit from the shady af vendor down the alley but the risk of getting busted or some viral infection is higher. But in some cases this fruit vendor is the only supplier of apples and pears.
Sure you can change tastes to oranges and get it from the cheaper vendor, but you want an apple or a pear. Hard to make apple pie with oranges. So naturally consumers try to rally the vendor to lower prices, or the very least continue the old free samples practice he use to give out to tempt you to spend.
Now to move away from the analogy, yes before a book goes premium you have a sampler set, x chapters before you buy, but after that you can no longer as easily check quality, you pay and you might get continued good quality... in other cases the author slacks off and qidian does nothing to police them.
It'd be a different tale if qidian/WN policed premium books consistently, or had a viable reporting method where irate buyers could report that an author/translator is in essence ripping off their following usually as soon as they start getting money. But I've failed to see it, chances are such a report function exists but its tucked away so all most see is toxic chapter comments, exp reviews or nasty posts here in the forum and don't bother beyond these mediums to look for the well hidden system to deal with issues.
10 days later
months of last reply and login. here i am still hope there will unlimited membership monthly. or it already here?
months of last reply and login. here i am still hope there will unlimited membership monthly. or it already here?
months of last reply and login. here i am still hope there will unlimited membership monthly. or it already here?
5 months later
imtheonlyone I am assuming that it is gone forever. The administrators of the site are going purely for profit at this point, so don't expect something that actually benefits the reader in anyway.
17 days later
Been a long time since I used this app, soo here is a bump.
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